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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:07 AM
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'Mossad spies' jailed over New Zealand passport fraud
David Fickling in Sydney
Friday July 16, 2004
The Guardian

The prime minister of New Zealand angrily denounced Israel and imposed diplomatic sanctions on it after two suspected Mossad agents were jailed for six months for trying on false grounds to obtain a New Zealand passport.
The plot, which involved obtaining a passport in the name of a tetraplegic man who had not spoken in years, provoked a furious reaction yesterday.

"The breach of New Zealand laws and sovereignty by agents of the Israeli government has seriously strained our relationship with Israel," said the prime minister, Helen Clark.

"This type of behaviour is unacceptable internationally by any country. It is a sorry indictment of Israel that it has again taken such actions against a country with which it has friendly relations."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1262362,00.html
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:08 AM
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1. 'Mossad fiasco' in New Zealand should ring alarm bells
By Ed Blanche
Special to The Daily Star
Saturday, July 24, 2004


BEIRUT: Intelligence operations, by definition, are always murky, opaque and hard to pin down, but one could be forgiven for tracing a link between the July 15 conviction in New Zealand of two alleged Mossad agents for trying to illegally obtain the passport of a bed-ridden disabled man and the assassination of Hizbullah official Ghaleb Awali in Beirut's southern suburbs last Monday, allegedly by Israeli-run agents.

Agents of the Mossad, Israel's foreign intelligence service, regularly use foreign passports to mask their identities, and New Zealand passports are prized because they are considered "door-openers" due to New Zealand's reputation for neutrality, and do not arouse suspicions, particularly in the Arab world. They provide visa-free access to many countries, including the United States. A New Zealand passport is also a ticket to British residency, which could provide a European Union passport. These would be invaluable for Mossad agents hunting terrorist targets around the world.

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http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=6579
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:14 AM
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6. Very interesting. Basically I should try to procure myself a NZ passport
Sounds very lucrative...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:09 AM
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2. story is a little old isn't it?
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:10 AM
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4. really?
hardly anybody in america has heard this.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:12 AM
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5. no way
it was headlines 7 months ago

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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:09 AM
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3. Was Syria really to blame?
By Eric Margolis

The 300-kilo car bomb that killed former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri in Beirut last week is being widely blamed on Syria. The Bush administration in the U.S., cheered on by Israel, accused Syria of "terrorism," withdrew its ambassador and all but threatened Damascus with war.

A Syrian role in the crime defies logic, though not possibility. Syrian President Bashar-el-Assad's regime is desperately seeking to avoid providing U.S. President George W. Bush with a pretext for war and has urgently sought improved relations with Washington.

Hariri dealt comfortably with Syria for years. Though opposed to the continued presence of 15,000 Syrian "peacekeeping" troops in Lebanon, Hariri was not a major threat to Damascus. In fact, this consummate but pragmatic Levantine politician played all sides and had enjoyed close political and business links to Syria.

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http://mparent7777.blog-city.com/read/1086150.htm
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:30 AM
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7. Israel had nothing to do with it
That is just plain anti-Israeli propaganda. Even Aljazeera never implied that

Everyone is aware of Sabra and Shatila, but very few voices were raised in May 1985 when Muslim militiamen attacked the Shatila and Burj-el Barajneh Palestinian refugee camps. According to UN officials, 635 were killed and 2500 wounded. During a 2 year battle between Syrian backed Shiite Amal militia and the PLO, more than 2000 people, including many civillians were killed.

In October 1990 when Syrian forces overran Christian controlled areas of Lebanon, 700 Christians were killed, the worst single battle of Lebanon's Civil war

IT IS A LIE THAT HARIRI "DEALT COMFORTABLY WITH SYRIA"

Syria has NOT BUSINESS IN LEBANON, but don't let me confuse anyone with the facts

With the help of Syria, an estimated 95000 deaths occurred during the civil war in Lebanon from 1975 - 1982

I don't know who killed Hariri, but I wouldn't rule out Syria, especially if you know the history

Incidently, the people in Lebanon, Christian and Muslim do NOT want Syria or any other country in Lebanon. Those protests against Syria in Lebanon are real
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:32 AM
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8. Inside Israel itself, there is much debate on this issue...
And most left wing Israelis think of the Mossad as we do about the CIA - that many unseemly deeds are done in their name without their knowledge.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:42 AM
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9. I don't buy that
Rafik Hariri was a thorn to Syria, he wanted Syria out of Lebanon

There was absolutely no motive for Israel to do that. In fact it would have even been more against their interests

Obviously in your mind there is nothing that Israel right.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:42 AM
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10. you don't know me...
all americans are not evil because of the actions of the cia...

likewise...

and, yes, the mossad, of course, are not the ONLY suspects here. the Far Right in lebanon, rogue nationalisrt elements of Syria's security wing, extremist Islamists interested in sowing discord...

But I have a feeling that those that run the Mossad aren't too happy with Sharon anymore - the gaza pullout - and this may be retaliation AGAINST SHARON to make trouble for him and his peace overtures.
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:42 PM
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11. Locking per I/P Guidelines.
Not a recent article or op-ed.

Locking.



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