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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:01 PM
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The Jerusalem Powder Keg
While the world focuses on Gaza, the future of Israeli-Palestinian relations in fact may be playing itself out away from the spotlight, in Jerusalem. With recent steps, Israel is attempting to solidify its hold over a wide area in and around the city, creating a far broader Jerusalem. If the international community and specifically the U.S. are serious about preserving and promoting a viable two-state solution, they need to speak far more clearly and insistently to halt actions that directly and immediately jeopardise that goal. And if that solution is ever to be reached, they will need to be clear that changes that have occurred since Israelis and Palestinians last sat down to negotiate in 2000-2001 will have to be reversed.

Since the onset of the Arab-Israeli conflict, control over Jerusalem has fluctuated, as have the city's contours. Speaking of the city today, one refers to substantial areas, some Jewish, others Arab, that were part of the West Bank and that no one would have recognised as Jerusalem prior to 1967. Stretching municipal boundaries, annexing Palestinian land and building new Jewish neighbourhoods/settlements, Israel gradually created a municipal area several times its earlier size. It also established new urban settlements outside the municipal boundary to surround the city, break contiguity between East Jerusalem and the West Bank, and strengthen links between these settlements, West Jerusalem and the rest of Israel.

Settlement expansion has been pursued by Labour and Likud governments alike and has always been highly problematic and deemed unlawful by the international community. But Prime Minister Sharon appears to be implementing a more focused and systematic plan that, if carried out, risks choking off Arab East Jerusalem by further fragmenting it and surrounding it with Jewish neighbourhoods/settlements:

  • The separation barrier, once completed, would create a broad Jerusalem area encompassing virtually all of municipal Jerusalem as expanded and annexed in 1967 as well as major settlements to its north, east, and south. This new "Jerusalem envelope", as the area inside the barrier euphemistically has been called, incorporates large settlement blocks and buffer zones, encompasses over 4 per cent of the West Bank, absorbs many Palestinians outside of municipal Jerusalem and excludes over 50,000 within, often cutting Palestinians off from their agricultural land.
  • Expansion of the large Ma'ale Adumim settlement to the east of Jerusalem and linking it to the city through the E1, a planned built-up urban land bridge, would go close to cutting the West Bank in two.
  • New Jewish neighbourhoods/settlements at the perimeter of the municipal boundaries would create a Jewish belt around Arab East Jerusalem, cutting it off from the West Bank and constricting Palestinian growth within the city.


http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=3588
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:04 PM
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1. The Palestinians need to declare their state, leave Israel alone, and
start about the business of governing themselves.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:29 PM
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2. They could declare their state if Israel wasn't occupying 80% of it. n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:56 PM
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3. Sounds like bogus stats. Got link?
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Alex88 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 05:47 PM
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4. Good point. 92% is closer to it.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 08:07 PM
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5. Got a link?
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:16 AM
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13. State? Who needs stats with reality staring you in the face on the ground
In Israel "settlement" = "occupation." There are not "settlers" in Israel proper...just those occupying Palestinian territories. That's a FACT, not a stat.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 08:44 PM
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6. What prevents them from doing it with what they have
Edited on Sun Aug-07-05 08:51 PM by barb162
no matter what % they have now or had? It's hard to quantify square miles with the various boundary changes over the years, including some to come soon with the settlements
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Alex88 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 09:11 PM
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7. Sanity
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:13 PM
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8. you have answered the 64,000 dollar question correctly and
welcome to DU
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Alex88 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:27 PM
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10. Thanks
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Alex88 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:26 PM
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9. To be clearer. Their sanity
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 10:30 PM
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11. Hmmmm????
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DixieDem Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:59 AM
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12. Exactly!!!

Impossible to do with their borders, coastline, airspace, and resources STILL under Israeli control.
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DixieDem Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:24 PM
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14. What's that sound?

Crickets again? Barb162? Anyone?

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 10:43 PM
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15. 'Gaza will remain occupied territory'
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3124583,00.html

Palestinian Foreign Ministry launches new initiative, calling for international world and United Nations to recognize Gaza Strip as occupied territory following Israel's pullout from region

<snip>

"The Palestinian Authority claims the Gaza Strip will continue to be under Israeli occupation even after Israel pulls out of the area next week.

In a report presented to the United Nations, several foreign governments and international organizations, the PA foreign ministry calls on the international community to reject Israel’s claim that by withdrawing from Gaza, it would relinquish the legal responsibilities of being an occupying power.


They claim Israel will continue to bear legal and moral responsibility for the Strip, and that international treaties will still apply.
“The Fourth Geneva Convention and Hague Regulations will continue to apply (to Israel),” they said.

Palestinian Foreign Minister Nasser al-Kidwa said, “Israel will continue to rule over Palestinian airspace and territorial waters, and will maintain partial control over border crossings.”

“Therefore, individual movement and our connections with the outside world will continue to be subject to Israeli authority,” he said."







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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 12:36 AM
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16. Two U.N. Workers Briefly Kidnapped in Gaza
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) - Palestinian militants briefly abducted two U.N. workers and their driver Monday in the Gaza town of Khan Younis before Palestinian security stormed the hideout, freeing them in a hail of gunfire.

The gunmen, whom Palestinian security forces linked to a group loyal to a rival of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and the most senior member of his ruling Fatah party, stopped a U.N. vehicle driving through Khan Younis and kidnapped the three, witnesses said. U.N. officials confirmed the abduction.

Shortly thereafter, security officials broke into the building where the three were being held and escorted them to a police vehicle amid a torrent of gunfire between Palestinian security forces and the kidnappers.

--- snip ---

The incidents were the latest sign of growing lawlessness and Palestinian infighting in Gaza in recent months as government rivals and militants seek to show their power and clash with security forces trying to consolidate their authority.


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