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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:56 AM
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BYU Professor is getting international attention for his theories (PNAC)
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 08:57 AM by helderheid
Fury as academics claim 9/11 was 'inside job'
by JAYA NARAIN Last updated at 18:10pm on 5th September 2006


The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people dead was an "inside job", according to a group of leading academics.

Around 75 top professors and leading scientists believe the attacks were puppeteered by war mongers in the White House to justify the invasion and the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries.

The claims have caused outrage and anger in the US which marks the fifth anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Monday.

But leading scientists say the facts of their investigations cannot be ignored and say they have evidence that points to one of the biggest conspiracies ever perpetrated.

Professor Steven Jones, who lectures in physics at the Brigham Young University in Utah, says the official version of events is the biggest and most evil cover up in history.

MORE:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=403757&in_page_id=1770
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:00 AM
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1. In other news...
...the sky is blue, the pope wears a funny hat, and no shit Sherlock.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:02 AM
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2. thanks for the giggle
:hi:
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:04 AM
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5. Please dont belittle
You and I may have known instinctually that it was a setup.
Not everyone is that savvy, even college professors.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:19 AM
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14. Just whistlin' past the graveyard...
Didn't mean to belittle anyone.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:02 AM
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3. Judge for yourself (VIDEO):
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 09:18 AM by Junkdrawer
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:07 AM
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7. i and i will be watching them vampire
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Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you

Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I'll be watching you

Oh can't you see
You belong to me
How my poor heart aches
with every step you take

Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you

Since you've gone I been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around but it's you I can't replace
I feel so cold and i long for your embrace
I keep crying baby, baby please

Oh can't you see
you belong to me
How my poor heart aches
with every step you take

Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you

Every move you make
Every step you take
I'll be watching you

I'll be watching you
(Every breath you take)
(Every move you make)
(Every vow you break)
(Every step you take)

I'll be watching you
(Every single day)
(Every word you say)
(Every claim you stake)

I'll be watching you
(Every breath you take)
(Every move you make)
(Every vow you break)
(Every step you take)

I'll be watching you
(Every single day)
(Every word you say)
(Every claim you stake)


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Obediah Obediah, Jah Jah sent us here to catch vampire…
We have the chalice to light up Jah fire!
When i and i catch them vampire
i and i have to set them on fire
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:11 PM
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30. 911 skeptic wins Florida Primary
ahhhh yes....seemslikeadream..i'll be watching them!!
Every move you make
Every step you take
I'll be watching you

I'll be watching you..till my last breathing moment!!


911 skeptic wins Florida Primary
http://bowman2006.com /


Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. is President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies, Executive Vice President of Millennium III Corporation, and retired Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church. He flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam and directed all the “Star Wars” programs under Presidents Ford and Carter. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers' ROTC Award of Merit (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech.

{b]911 skeptic, has vowed to reopen 911 investigation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lN5Vi8xUM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-50047043090414...


hey little lord pissy pants...

Every move you make
Every step you take
I'll be watching you

fly



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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:13 PM
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31. these are some of the warnings * got the summer of 2001 that * ignored
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 12:14 PM by flyarm

this is from the lawsuit of MrsMariani who filed a lawsuit against bush..for his failures on 9/11,
these are some of the warnings bush got the summer of 2001 that bush ignored...yes this is directly from the court documents!


http://www.911timeline.net/marianivsbush.htm

(2) April to May 2001. U.S. government received 'specific' threats of terrorist attacks against U.S. targets or interests



Condoleezza Rice admitted that the U.S. government had received "specific" threats that "al Qaeda attacks against U.S. targets or interests…might be in the works. There was a clear concern that something was up, … but it was principally focused overseas. The areas of most concern were the Middle East, the Arabian Peninsula and Europe." (cited in CNN 5-16-2002 "Timeline: Events leading up to September 11") She did not elaborate on where the intelligence originated, but the Independent of London, reported that the information had been relayed to Washington by British intelligence sources. (Bennetto and Gumbel 5-18-2002)



(3) June 6, 2001. German intelligence warned CIA



The German intelligence agency, the BND, warned both the CIA and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists were "planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and Israeli culture." This intelligence reportedly came from Echelon, a high-tech electronic surveillance system used by the intelligence agencies of several nations to glean through electronic communications for certain keywords. It was first reported by the German daily newspaper, Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung on September 13. Its sources were reportedly from the BND itself. (Stafford 9-13-2001; Thomas 5-21-2002) According to Gordon Thomas (5-21-2002) of Global – Intel, the original source of information actually came from Israeli Mossad agents operating in the U.S. who had infiltrated al Qaeda. According to his account the Mossad also informed British and Russian intelligence about the attacks, who then in turn notified the CIA. Thomas's sources are allegedly informants within the Mossad itself.

(4) July 16, 2001. British intelligence sent a report to Tony Blair warning of imminent attacks. The report was also sent to Washington


The British Cabinet Office Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) sent a memo authored by the heads of British intelligence agencies, MI6, MI5 and GCHQ, to Tony Blair and other cabinet ministers, warning that al Qaeda was in the final stages of preparing for a terrorist attack. The memo suggested that the attacks would likely be aimed at American or Israeli targets. The report did not indicate however that the agencies had any knowledge with regards to the "timings, targets and methods of attack." According to the Times of London, the warning was "based on intelligence gleaned not just from MI6 and GCHQ but also from US agencies, including the CIA and the National Security Agency, which has staff working jointly with GCHQ." The newspaper added, "The CIA sometimes has a representative on the JIC. The contents of the July 16 warning would have been passed to the Americans, Whitehall confirmed." (Evans 6-14-2002)

(5) June 23, 2001. Arabic News Network reported that bin Laden had predicted a 'severe blow' to the United States.



"According to the June 23rd AirlineBiz.com report, the Arabic satellite television network MBC claimed that 'the next two weeks will witness a big surprise.' An MBC reporter who had met with bin Laden in Afghanistan on June 21st predicted that 'a severe blow is expected against U.S. and Israeli interests worldwide. There is a major state of mobilization among the Osama bin Laden forces. It seems that there is a race of who will strike first. Will it be the United States or Osama bin Laden?' " (Grigg 3-11-2002)

(6) Summer 2001. Jordan's General Intelligence Division (GID) warned Washington of an attack planned on the U.S mainland using aircraft.



According to John Cooley (5-21-2002), author of the book, Unholy Wars: America, Afghanistan, and International Terrorism, Jordan's intelligence agency, GID, intercepted al Qaeda communications indicating that a terrorist operation, code-named 'Al Ourush al Kabir' or 'The Big Wedding,' was being planned for within the U.S. and would involve aircraft. Cooley confirmed the validity of this warning. (see also Bubnov 5-24-2002)

(7) Summer 2001. Iranian man warned U.S. authorities of a planned terrorist attack during the week of September 9, 2001



Online.ie reported "German police have confirmed an Iranian man phoned US police from his deportation cell to warn of the planned attack on the World Trade Centre" during the week of September 9. He reportedly called several times. Very little information was given about the 'Iranian man' other than the fact that he was 28-years old. No other news agencies independently reported the incident. (Online.ie 9/14/01; cited in Anova 9-14-2001; Ruppert 11-2-2001; 11-24-2001; 4-22-2002)

(8) August 2001. Moroccan intelligence warned Washington about "large scale-operations in New York in the summer or autumn of 2001"



According to reports published in November 2001 by a French magazine and a Moroccan newspaper, Morocco's royal intelligence informed Washington that one of its agents, who had penetrated al Qaeda, learned that bin Laden's organization was preparing "large operations in New York in the summer or autumn of 2001." The agent, who is said to be presently in the U.S. helping its intelligence agencies, also informed Moroccan intelligence that bin Laden was 'very disappointed' with the first WTC bombing which failed to bring the two towers down. John Cooley (5-21-2002), who reported this in the International Herald Tribune wrote that as of 5-21-2002, he had not independently verified this warning. (see also Bubnov 5-24-2002)




(9) August 2001. Israel warned U.S. about large-scale attacks on the U.S. mainland





"Israeli intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent." (Jacobson and Wastell 9-16-2001; Davis 9-17-2001; Stafford 9-13-2001; Serrano and Thor-Dahlburg 9-20-2001; Martin 1-5-2002; Martin 1-16-2002) According to Gordan Thomas (5-21-2002), this information was based on intelligence gleaned from Israeli Mossad agents who had penetrated or were spying on the al Qaeda operatives. Thomas's sources are allegedly informants within the Mossad itself.



(10) August 2001. Intelligence sources warned Argentine Jewish leaders of imminent attacks



According to Argentine Jewish leaders, the Jewish community in that country "received a warning about an impending major terrorist attack against the United States, Argentina or France just weeks before September 11." Forward quoted Marta Nercellas, a lawyer for the Delegación de Asociaciones Israelitas Argentinas, or DAIA, Argentina's main Jewish representative body: "It was a concrete warning that an attack of major proportion would take place, and it came from a reliable intelligence . And I understand the Americans were told about it." (Forward 2-5-2002)



(11) August 24, 2001. Russian intelligence warned of possible hijacking



Russian intelligence warned the CIA that 25 terrorist pilots were specifically training to crash airliners into planned targets. This was reported by the Russian Izveztia on September 12 and translated for From The Wilderness Magazine by a former CIA officer. (cited from Ruppert 11-2-2001; see also Ruppert 11-24-2001; 4-22-2002; Martin 1-5-2002; Martin 1-16-2002) According to Gordan Thomas (5-21-2002) Russian intelligence received this information from the Israeli Mossad.

(12) August 31, 2001. Egyptian president warned U.S. that something was brewing



Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak warned the U.S. that "something would happen" 12 days before the terrorist attacks. (AP 12-7-2001; MacFarquhar and Tyler 6-4-2002; Martin 1-5-2002). Egypt had also warned the U.S. on June 13. (Martin 1-16-2002). The U.S intelligence denied that they had received this information soon before the attacks and instead alleged that the only warnings that had been given to them from Egypt occurred between March and May of 2001. (MacFarquhar and Tyler 6-4-2002)

(13) September 1, 2001. Russian intelligence warned the U.S. again about 'imminent attacks'



"Russian President Vladimir Putin orders Russian intelligence to warn the U.S. government 'in the strongest possible terms' of imminent attacks on airports and government buildings" (We do not have a reference to the original source. See Ruppert 11-2-2001; 4-22-2002 based on MS-NBC interview with Putin, September 15. See also Martin 1-16-2002; Thomas 5-21-2002) According to Gordan Thomas (5-21-2002) Russian intelligence received this information from the Israeli Mossad.

(14) Early September 2001. Mossad chief warned CIA of possibility of attacks



According to Gordon Thomas (5-21-2002), Mossad Chief Efraim Halevy warned both the CIA and FBI of the possibility of near term attacks. George Tenet presumably thought that it was "too non specific."




(15) September 5-6, 2001



Commenting on the U.S. intelligence failure, the French Le Monde reported: "The first lapse has to do with the processing of intelligence items that come out of Europe. According to our information, French and American officials did in fact hold important meetings in Paris from the 5th to the 6th of September, that is, a few days prior to the attacks. Those sessions brought representatives of the American Special Services together with officers of the DST (Directorate of Territorial Security) and military personnel from the DGSE (General Overseas Security Administration). Their discussion turned to some of the serious threats made against American interests in Europe, specifically one targeting the U.S. Embassy in Paris. During these talks, the DST directed the American visitors' attention to a Moroccan-born Frenchman who had been detained in the United States since August 17 and who was considered to be a key high-level Islamic fundamentalist. But the American delegation, preoccupied above all with questions of administrative procedure, paid no attention to this 'first alarm,' basically concluding that they were going to take no one's advice, and that an attack on American soil was inconceivable. It took September 11 for the FBI to show any real interest in this man, who we now know attended two aviation training schools, as did at least seven of the kamikaze terrorists." (cited in Ridgeway 5-28-2002)

(16) September 7, 2001. Mossad chief warned CIA a second time of possible attacks



According to Gordon Thomas (5-21-2002), Mossad Chief Efraim Halevy sent another alert to the CIA warning of possible terrorist attacks. The message was received in Washington on September 7.

(17) September 3-10, 2001. Anonymous caller informed a radio talk show that Osama bin Laden's organization would be launching imminent attacks against the U.S.



"MSNBC reports on September 16 that a caller to a Cayman Islands radio talk show gave several warnings of an imminent attack on the U.S. by bin Laden in the week prior to 9/11." (We do not have a reference to the original source. See Ruppert 11-2-2001)

(18) September 10, 2001.



U.S. intelligence intercepted conversations from al Qaeda that were extremely specific. USA Today, reported "Two U.S. intelligence officials, paraphrasing highly classified intercepts, say they include such remarks as, 'Good things are coming,' 'Watch the news' and 'Tomorrow will be a great day for us.' " This information was contained with 13,000 pages of material from the National Security Agency that was handed over to the Congressional 9-11 inquiry. It is unclear when these intercepts were reviewed by U.S. intelligence. They may not have been reviewed until after 9-11. (Diamond 6-3-2002)

(19) September 11, 2001. Employees at Odigo Inc, received warnings predicting the attacks hours before they happened



The Israeli company, Odigo, Inc. was apparently warned two hours before the attacks. Odigo CEO Micha Macover told the Ha'aretz that 'two workers received the messages predicting the attack would happen.' The FBI was quickly notified but it is presently not clear if U.S. authorities are still investigating the incident. The company's offices in Israel are located suspiciously near the Israeli Institute for Counter Terrorism which broke story of the insider trading scam on 9-11. (McWilliams 9-28-2001; Seberg 9-28-2001; Ruppert 2-11-2002; 4-22-2002)
Evidence that U.S. authorities were concerned

(1) 1994. FBI videotaped an informant being recruited as a suicide bomber by two men, one of whom was linked to Osama bin Laden



Summarizing a letter written by former FBI Special Agent James Hauswirth, the Los Angeles Times wrote, "The 27-year FBI veteran said in the letter reviewed by the Los Angeles Times that the Phoenix office had evidence of Islamic potential terrorists operating in the region as far back as 1994. That year, two men were videotaped by FBI agents recruiting a Phoenix FBI informant as a suicide bomber, the letter says. One of those men, according to a source, was linked to a terrorist in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing." ( Los Angeles Times 5-27-2002)

(2) 1996-2001. The FBI was investigating suspected terrorists enrolled in flight schools



In 1996, after the Philippine police had discovered the 'Bojinka' plot (see above), US officials began investigating al Qaeda terrorist suspects who were training in U.S. flight schools. "Since 1996, the FBI had been developing evidence that international terrorists were using US flight schools to learn to fly jumbo jets. A foiled plot in Manila to blow up U.S. airliners and later court testimony by an associate of bin Laden had touched off FBI inquiries at several schools, officials say." (cited in Fairnaru and Grimaldi 9-23-2001; Martin 1-16-2002; Shelon 5-18-2002)



(3) 1996 or 1997. FBI Counter terrorist specialist John O'Neil warned of terrorist capabilities



Soon after the late John O'Neil had become head of the FBI's New York unit, he warned, "A lot of these groups now have the capability and the support infrastructure in the United States to attack us here if they choose to." (Loeb 9-12-2002) John O'Neil, who was described as one of the FBI's 'most pugnacious' agents, resigned from the FBI shortly before 9-11. He subsequently took a position as head of the WTC security, where he is believed to have died on the day of the attacks while attempting to rescue other people in the towers. September 11 had been his first day on the job. (Loeb 9-12-2002) John O'Neil had complained that the Bush administration had impeded his investigations into suspected Saudi terrorists. (Brisard and Dasquie 2001in Godoy 11-16-2001; Marlowe 11-19-2001)
(4) 1997. FBI was investigating Middle Eastern flight school students in Phoenix



Summarizing a letter written by former FBI Special Agent James Hauswirth, the Los Angeles Times wrote: "In 1998, the office's international terrorism squad investigated a possible Middle Eastern extremist taking flight lessons at a Phoenix airport, wrote Hauswirth, who retired from the FBI in 1999."

(5) 1998. The FAA issued a warning that al Qaeda may attempt to hijack commercial airlines



In 1998, Federal Aviation Administration warned airlines to be on a 'high degree of alertness' against possible hijackings by members of Osama bin Laden's organizations. (AP 5-26-2002). May 18, 1998. FBI memo observed that an 'unusually' large number of Middle Eastern men were attending flight schools. The memo revealed that an Oklahoma FBI pilot had warned his supervisor "that he has observed large numbers of Middle Eastern males receiving flight training at Oklahoma airports in recent months." The FBI pilot further observed, "This is a recent phenomena and may be related to planned terrorist activity." Washington 5-30-2002)

(6) 199? – 2001. According to anonymous sources it was widely known that important warnings were being ignored



The New American magazine interviewed three federal law enforcement agents who confirmed that the FBI had foreknowledge of the attacks. They spoke only on conditions of anonymity, although two of them told the magazine that they would be willing to testify to Congress. One agent stated that it was widely known "all over the Bureau, how these were ignored by Washington... All indications are that this information came from some of most experienced guys, people who have devoted their lives to this kind of work. But their warnings were placed in a pile in someone's office in Washington...In some cases, these field agents predicted, almost precisely, what happened on September 11th. So we were all holding our breath…hoping that the situation would be remedied." (cited in Grigg 3-11-2002)



hey little lord pissy pants...

Every move you make
Every step you take
I'll be watching you

fly
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:54 AM
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23. thanks for the link!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:02 AM
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4. I think I may have read something about that MIHOP somewhere
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:07 AM
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6. But that falls into there is no scientific evidence whatsoever camp
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 09:07 AM by acmejack
There was a long thread here last night explaining that anyone who thought that there was any reason other than aircraft induced structural failure was "Anti Science". Period. End of discussion.

Sorry Professor obviously, you are anti-science and lack credibility-take your evidence (and your Physics training)-you know, that sample of steel with the Sulfur, and get lost. You Mormons are all such notorious liars...
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:09 AM
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8. wow ! ! ! I cannot believe that this thread
hasn't been shunted to the dungeon yet!?!?

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:38 AM
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21. it's all about the way you phrase it... :)
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:19 AM
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25. I see. . . .so I shouldn't mention
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 10:19 AM by QuettaKid
Sivan Kurzberg by name? I did that yesterday in a thread about FOIA and WHAM!! off to the dungeon for you.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:40 PM
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34. yes, you gotta "cut the issue" as we used to say in the canvass. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:12 AM
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10. What I find interesting is that since
more and more people are rethinking who was responsible for 9/11 as a result of info from 'credible' sources, a plethora of so called documentaries are suddenly appearing blaming Clinton. Ah well. I have never believed the official story.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:04 AM
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24. So much info came out last month about the war games that were
being played out while the hijackings were occurring. Very damning for bushco.

I can just picture them scrambling to throw together their pack of lies after those revelations.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:38 AM
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28. the timing of the ABC fiction is telling to me - now that there is so much
doubt about the official story
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:11 AM
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9. If they can get hard proof like a whistleblower, someone who
sat in on the meetings when the plot was hatched, then even the most kool-aid drunk members of Congress can't ignore this and they will have to move to impeach, try and indict the Bush administration.

This will finish those criminals off for good. No one would be able to spin or lie their way out of this one.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:15 AM
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11. We are incorporating the 9/11 myth into the fabric of our nation...
It's getting to the point that America will fall before the truth about 9/11 is acknowledged.

We're building on a lie. Lies do not stand.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:23 AM
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17. whistleblowers are few and far between
and when they come out alone people can just blow them off as kooks.

It would have to be through reopening an investigation IMO. But more and more people are suspicious.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:27 PM
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32. It would be nice if a deep throat can be found whose
identity can be hidden, but whose information can't
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:16 AM
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12. Now, if only he'd publish his research...
in a peer-reviewed journal.

Sid
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:17 AM
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13. so how many people have to endorse this notion before it moves off of
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 09:17 AM by ixion
the fringe a.k.a. 'conspiracy theory', and into acceptable discourse?

Disclaimer: I already thought the WTC buildings were brought down in a controlled demolition. I have thought this since I watched them collapse at near free-fall speed neatly into their own footprint.

I've watched that video. And the argument he makes is one of the best I've seen supporting this premise.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:27 AM
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18. 911 skeptic wins Florida Primary
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:29 AM
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19. Good on him!
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melnjones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:19 AM
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15. interesting.
nt
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CollegeDUer Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:20 AM
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16. Bin Laden played into Bush's hands and vice versa
I don't think it was an "inside job"; these Bush people are too stupid to pull it off.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:30 AM
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20. bush is just a willing puppet
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:46 PM
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35. Yeah, it takes a guy in a cave in Afghanistato cripple US air defense. n/t
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:54 AM
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22. Yeah. Let me guess. Each professor gets Repub support like Lieberman.
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 09:54 AM by Festivito
What a wonderful way to discredit LIHOP is make MIHOP become the ONE CONSPIRACY made so incredible that no one listens to what really happened. Buy the book, buy the slick websites, buy the unslick ads propped up by people who's motive and behind the scenes payments are unclear. Kind of like Lieberman's behind the scene REpublican payoffs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2496135&mesg_id=2496135
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:32 AM
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26. How serious of an academic is a BYU prof?
I don't consider BYU to have any higher academic standing than BJU (Bob Jones University, not Florida State).

Maybe their science department is more serious than their theology department. Still, to make a serious mormon crazy, just tell him or her that Hugh Nibley molested his daughter in the context of reenacting Joseph Smith's original rituals. That always goes over well, as Hugh Nibley is considered the mormon apologist.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 11:08 AM
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27. Here are international awards given to the University.
It has a very good physics department some of the accomplishments listed below.



Branton J. Campbell, Department of Physics and Astronomy,
Brigham Young University: Incident-neutron wavelength resolution with a Fourier prism-

Steven L. Castle, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry, Brigham Young University: A strategy for the synthesis of three contiguous quaternary centers: Application to the syntheses of acutumine and acutumidine

Dallin S. Durfee, Department of Physics, Brigham Young University: An “optical clock” measurement of the drift of the fine structure constant

link: http://www.rescorp.org/recent_ria.html

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:06 PM
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29. Well, then, I take back my snarky comments.
You never know with some schools. I've read some weird things about BYU that makes me put it into the same league as Bob Jones or Liberty Universities.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:55 PM
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33. TO THE DUNGEON!
Had a good run.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:49 PM
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36. Paris Hilton gets international attention.
So what?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:57 AM
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37. Yes it did. n/t
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