Wanna know who's running the world AND what YOU can do about it? GO HERE:

[BeHereNow]

http://www.augustreview.com

BEST WEB SITE EVER ON GLOBALIZATION.

BE SURE to listen to the radio interview with the
site owner, Patrick Wood.
(Co-researcher with acclaimed Antony Sutton)
on the TRILATERAL COMMISSION and the CFR (COUNCIL
on FOREIGN RELATIONS.)
The root of the neocon EVIL.

Wondering why there appears to no longer be a two
party system in this country?

READ the articles at this site and LISTEN to ALL
three hours of the interview.

Trust me- you will understand SO much more
and learn what YOU can do to TAKE BACK the COUNTRY.

BHN

[bridgit]

1. Bilderberg...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_group

[BeHereNow]

2. I see we are on the same page...

Let's see who else on DU has heard the call...?
BHN

[bridgit]

3. time will tell, may be just you & i...

:shrug: :hi:

[BeHereNow]

5. Interesting point he makes in 3rd hour of the interview...

Which I have heard from another analyst I follow
avidly, Craig B. Hulet.
http://www.kcandassociates.org
Paraphrasing-
Americans are, for the most part, cowards.
BHN

[bridgit]

10. hm, i think that was what bush & gang was playing on, it's our blood...

our treasure, our america the beautiful; which was why they used all those lofty poetries to get 'the thing' going (people were already getting tired of innocent people & embassies being blown up around the world (in spite of our policies) that much seemed clear), heard a guy on AAR today mentioning the 'double speak' regarding freedom...freedom, liberty, democracy...they've all become diluted for little more than gains at the election booth

i don't think americans are cowards. we are vast, our economy is vast, our civil governance; our poetries are vast they are open ended, but they can be clearly used by usurpers

i think that given the proper cause, americans will crawl through broken glass to make things right

america is not unlike a carrier at sea, it takes some 15mils to bring her about...but it has all been squandered by a cowardly leadership imo, that could not level with the people they intended to use as cannon fodder

our adherence to laws and our requirements to get it just right, should never have been construed as 'cowardice' imfo

[tenseconds]

54. and

Their coward nature comes from their obsession with security and materialism.

[Blackthorn]

4. Count me in.

[BeHereNow]

6. Before I count you in, may I ask...

Are you familiar with the work of Antony Sutton
and the Trilateral Commission?
Have you visited the web site cited on my OP?
If not, you should.

BHN

[Blackthorn]

36. I didn't realise there was a test.

I'm an unaware of Anthony Sutton, but am aware of the Trilaterial Commission, Bilderberg, CFR, the Illuminati etc etc etc.

I was simply agreeing with your sentiments. There's much more to the plan and organisation than just the groups I mentioned above. It's good to see other people here who can see this current Administration is more than just a blip on the radar, that will pass in 2008 and all will be right again.

[BeHereNow]

37. Sorry, didn't mean to imply a "test."

Just curious as to whether or not you were
familiar with Sutton.
DO look into him- you will find that his work
fits your interest in the organizations you mentioned above.

And you are correct, an election will NOT make everything
"okay" again. The work before us is unimaginable in its
scope and depth. One read of the current Trilateral Commision
members should cause any thinking person to ponder
the existence of a "two party" system.

Like many who get too close to the truth, Sutton was
conveniently labeled a "conspiracy theorist."
The problem with the label sticking in my mind is
that his research is impeccable, as is true with many other
top notch political analysts.

BHN

[Blackthorn]

39. No apology needed. I didn't intend to sound snippy.

I will look into this Sutton. It's always interesting to read different perspectives on this "conspiracy".

At any rate, I am glad to find people with similar thoughts on this. Yesterday I got so frustrated at the number of people here who were allowing Bush to hide behind his veneer of "incompetence". "9/11 was just incompetence", "Iraq was just incompetence". NO. They were all planned. They WANT civil war in Iraq. They needed 9/11 to do it.

Do people even think about this? If Bush and this administration are just incompetent, then that implies they are trying to do the right thing and simply can't. I mean, Rumsfeld could have prevented Abu Ghraib, but he was just to incompetent. Horseshit. Rummy wants the torture of prisoners. Not for information, because it stirs up the Middle East AND dead bodies are easier to look after than live ones.

When will people understand these people are EVIL, and what they are doing is following a very specific plan that has been in place for centuries.

Pardon the rant. I wasn't prepared to blast anyone person in particular yesterday, so I'll have at it to the ether.

[BeHereNow]

40. I didn't take your post as snippy, more like taken aback-

As though surprised that I was challenging you in some way.
Sorry if I presented that way.

No need to pardon a rant- we need to rant with every
fiber of our beings!

Much of what I see on DU these days is, in my opinion,
mis directed ranting. I don't think many people
know what the real issues are.

I know what the PTB WANT us to think they are.
Keeps our attention diverted from what really matters.

I know you know what I mean.
Feel free to PM me anytime-
We'll talk.

BHN

[Blackthorn]

42. I agree.

I find it disappointing people are still rallying behind Kerry and Gore after their participation in foisting Bush upon us and keeping him in power respectively.

At any rate, I'll let you know my thoughts on the links you posted. Probably won't get a chance until the weekend.

[BeHereNow]

43. Until then.

Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
BHN
(Couldn't agree more on the Kerry/Gore retreats)

[Triana]

7. Friend of mine was telling me about the trilateral commission...

...back in the 80s. I know it's been around a lot longer than that, but this Vietnam vet who told me about it was horrified by it.

[BeHereNow]

8. The site lists the 2006 members

Join the list and gain access to the
Sutton/Wood research on them.
"Trilaterals Over Washington" is a MUST read.
IF you are interested in understanding what we are
witnessing today and in our collective future.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

15. PS:

As in CHECK out the so called "democrats"
on the membership roster...
Then REVIEW the TRILATERAL commission
plan for America...
DO current events and VOTES in legislation
make sense yet?
Thought so.

BHN

[Triana]

26. I did notice some of the members...

...holy crap!

[BeHereNow]

38. How about those "Democratic" members?

Their participation in the organization sure
does answer those nagging questions about
why they vote against the interest of, WE, the people, like they do, huh?
BHN

[madmusic]

9. Council on Foreign Relations

From SourceWatch

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) states (http://www.cfr.org/) that it is "dedicated to increasing America's understanding of the world and contributing ideas to U.S. foreign policy. The Council accomplishes this mainly by promoting constructive debates and discussions, clarifying world issues, and publishing Foreign Affairs."

In a September 2005 makeover of its website, the Council proclaimed itself to be "A Nonpartisan Resource for Information and Analysis"(sic), "to be the first-stop, nonpartisan resource on U.S. foreign policy and America’s role in the world", according to the press release (http://www.cfr.org/publication/8832/council_launches_new_website.html).

History

The CFR dates back to 1921, and in 1996 published its history, available on its website (http://www.cfr.org/about/grosse00a.php).

The membership of the CFR includes past Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries of State, Wall Street investors, international bankers, foundation executives, think tank executives, lobbyist lawyers, NATO and Pentagon military leaders, wealthy industrialists, journalists, media owners and executives, university presidents and key professors, select Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, Federal Judges, wealthy entrepreneurs, and as many as ten 9-11 Commission Members. <1> (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807/SPEciaL.html) <2> (http://100777.com/doc/734)

Due perhaps more to its origins, associations, and history, than to its current composition and activities, the CFR does have a reputation as one of the "triumvirate of elite organizations" together with the Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission. Elitism doesn't necessarily preclude the ability to provide unbiased and useful service however. <3> (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Council_Foreign_Relations.htm)

Carroll Quigley, Professor of History at Georgetown University, stated, "The Council of Foreign Relations is the American Branch of a society which originated in England and believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_on_Foreign_Relations

[BeHereNow]

12. TRUST me when I tell you-

LISTEN TO ALL 3 HOURS of the interview with
Patrick Wood, as linked on his home page @
http://www.augustreview.com
BHN

[and-justice-for-all]

22. Now thats handy...Thanx

[PsychoDad]

24. Interesting side note....

In Islamic tradition and hadeeth about the Dajeel, or Antichrist, it is said that he will have the letters C F R upon his forehead.

I thought it was interesting in relation to the subject.

It would shock most americans if their secure notions about self governance and democracy were shattered by the fact of how few people really run the world.

Peace.

[DrDebug]

46. LOL. It's a very small elite indeed (~1 in 600,000)

Bilderberg is probably the top for global coordination and consists of about 150 people per yearly session who each represent a special interest group, except for special cases like Henry K. who is so big that he is a group himself. The groups they represent usually consist of about 100 as well, so the total group of ten thousand who can influence / have influence in that group and those people have global power.

Trilateral is the day-to-day steering committee of globalization and consists of 300 people over three continents, so that's about 100 for North America. Trilateral is more a think-tank and the members are not so much selected for their influence, but on high intelligence and shrewdness. It's more an organization of evil geniuses.

Council on Foreign Relations and UK equivalent Chatham House (old name: Royal Institute of International Affairs) are national groups which for some unexplained reason came into existance in the same year as well. They are pretty large with the CFR having 4,000 members. Those members more or less represent themselves, which means that the United States is more or less directly ruled by 10,000 via the CFR and other societies.

That implies that the United States is influenced by +/- 10,000 people who have national influence (~ 1 in 30,000) and the world as a whole is influenced by also +/- 10,000 people (~ 1 in 600,000).

To make matters worse you have people like Henry K., David Rockefeller, and also lesser known people like Oscar Fanjul (Repsol, Marsh, 11-M) and Josef Ackermann (Deutsche Bank), who are members of sometimes hunderds of boards of directors / secret societies / organizations / NGOs etc., and therefore have a tremendeous influence even in the very elitist 1 in 600,000 group. Another group is the ancient elite who have been at the top for often many centuries, like Rockefellers (esp. the next generation and not so much the very visible David), Rothschilds, Royalties, Roman Catholic Church (because that I like the 4 R look) who aren't in the limelight anymore and tend to operate by proxy nowadays. Probably in the next century or so, you'll not hear that much from the Bushes or the Gates either, since they'll probably join the ranks of the established elite.

[Oilwellian]

11. Link to the audio

http://www.augustreview.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=5&pid=7

I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks for posting.

[BeHereNow]

13. Thanks for listening.

The audio will enlighten all who dare to listen
with open hearts and minds.
The world as we have thought it to be no longer exists.
WE can not make a difference until we comprehend CLEARLY
just what it is we are facing.
I think Wood makes the problem VERY clear in his interview and
the articles on his site.
PLEASE, do listen to his interview and read his work.

BHN

[sadiesworld]

14. Good stuff. Thanks.

[BeHereNow]

16. I've GOT to go to bed now...

Work tomorow and all that...
Plus, had to put a dog down today (cancer)
and so I am exhausted emotionally. (so sad)
Please keep this thread kicked, as Wood's info is
SO relevant to our collective future.
BHN

[seemslikeadream]

17. a kick for me and a friend

of mine who spent the day at the Bilderberg Hotel.

[Raksha]

18. Very interesting website - I bookmarked it.

Kind of depressing, though. It seems like their plans are very far advanced and there doesn't seem to be much us ordinary citizens can do about them. The globalists seem to specialize in making "end runs" around Congress and doing everything by executive order.

[earth mom]

19. Thanks-bookmarked to look at more closely tomorrow.

Looks like there is interesting info about the North American Union which few around here are taking seriously or want to discuss. No, people around here would rather go on and on about the Path to 9/11 which they were powerless to stop because it was already a done deal.

Follow the money, indeed. :tinfoilhat:

[Karenina]

20. Kick!

:kick:

[leftchick]

21. My Father told me about the trilateral commission about 30 years ago

and I laughed him off back then. Luckily over the last fifteen years or so I have had the chance to thank him for being so smart.

[formercia]

25. Me too

My father was a Knight of Malta and a member of the OSS in WWII. He knew what the deal was because he was one of the 'boys'. In the 50's, he was telling me stories about I.G. Farben, the Trilateral Commission and CFR. At the time, it didn't mean much to me either. This game they have been playing has been going on for a long time. They have managed to get in positions of power and make sure that they control the field by promoting those who are part of their group or those who are sympathetic to their goals. Until they are ferreted out and removed from power, this will continue.

[formercia]

23. CFR is a legacy of Cecil Rhodes

Rhodes was a Knight of Malta and the CFR was formed as a front organization to promote the NWO, in fact, Rhodes was the one who coined the phrase New World Order.

[Mnemosyne]

27. KnR n/t

[druidity33]

28. 20 minutes in...

i'm not sure i like at all his view on Mexico and "illegal" immigrants...

but i'm still listening...

[atommom]

29. I will definitely spend some time at this site... looks interesting...

but look at all the World Nut Daily / Jerome Corsi links. That makes me uneasy, as I think he has his own agenda to promote. I've been following the "North American Union" story with skepticism, and I'm wondering why most of the coverage seems to be from RW sources who are normally in favor of corporate interests doing as they please.

[Raksha]

34. All of those World Nut Daily links made me nervous too. n/t

[BeHereNow]

30. Off to work kick for the morning DU crowd...

DO not miss this web site!
http://www.augustreview.com
DU listen to the interview!
And have a great day everyone.
BHN

[mom cat]

31. Bookmarked for tonight! Wow ... and thanks.

[earth mom]

32. KICK!

:kick:

[liberalla]

33. This looks really good.

Can't wait to listen later.

Thanks!

[BeHereNow]

35. Kicking for the early evening cocktail crowd.

Pour your poison, sit back and listen
to the interview...I have a doctor's appointment,
but I will join you all later.

BHN:toast:

[BeHereNow]

41. Because I think it will take some time to digest the information

on the August Review web site, I will just keep
patiently kicking this thread...
BHN

[BeHereNow]

44. 9-11 forum?

There is NOTHING in this post about 9-11.
WTF?
BHN

[DrDebug]

47. Well, there are many CFR members who also play a role in 9/11

This move to the dungeon might be related to that ;)

[Sven77]

45. my list of elites and elite groups

Id say at the top is Saxe-Coburg Gotha, and other Kings and Queens of Europe. Also Rothchilds, Rockefellers, etc. Most of the weathliest people put their money in tax free foundations to fund the NWO. As far as groups go Bilderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission, control USA and United Nations. Mainly through the banking system(Federal Reserve). These elites at the top are greedy, inbred, parasites on society.

Not going to go into secret societies like Freemasons, Skull & Bones, Illuminati, Zionists etc. Cant really prove anything to me there.

Bilderbergers is a real world organization, kept obscure by the corporate owned media. Just look at the list from the 2006 conference in Canada, http://www.bilderberg.org/2006.htm

[DrDebug]

48. Saxe-Coburg-Gotha/Windsor is probably still the #1 clan in the world

Prince Andreas of Albany is the head of the clan since 1998 BTW. That's one of the typical examples of their influence, the world thinks that Lizzie is the most important member of the family, but she is not and the clan gets ruled by somebody and we hardly know anything about him except that he has three children and got married in Hamburg to Carin Dabelstein and in true inbred style both are descendent of King William I of England.

[JackRiddler]

49. Dr. Debug

Was reading your Who Killed JO page just last night. I was wondering about a detail: first crash into WTC 1 was the offices of Marsh McClellan. Second crash you had as "also under the control" of Greenberg interests. What company was that?

[DrDebug]

50. WTC2 is indirect

Marsh had offices on 85 and 86, however the main part was occupied by Fuji Bank. So that's why WTC2 was more difficult since not all floors were directly part of the Greenberg empire. So the point is did they need access to Fuji Bank? What we know about Fuji Bank is that they were involved in the Mena drug money laundry together with American International Group, so they were one of the corporations for that aspect of Iran/Contra as well, which suggest that they had some of relationship.

Forgot to mention that it is called Mizuho Bank nowadays since it merged with Dai-Ichi Kangyo Bank in 2002.

[DrDebug]

51. A bit more on Iran Contra / drug money laundering

Iran Contra was supposed to be mainly supported by cocaine money. George H.W. Bush made a deal with the Saudis that they were going to do major investments in the illegal wars as well, however the bulk had to come from cocaine. It's not clear how expensive Iran Contra was, but it was probably immense, since it involved guerilla wars in Central America, a war between Iran and Iraq. Insurance companies are better suited for laundry since they are less efficient and more money is involved. In case of AIG there is a revenue of about more $100B annually with an income of about $10B. Therefore they can probably launder about half a billion without attracting attention.

Banks are less qualified for laundry because they are usually smaller (Fuji Bank had a revenue of about $16B with a $3B income), so the total amount of money they can launder is limited.

Speculative part:
The Japanese system is interesting, because Fuji Bank is one of the six keiretsus which is a group of interlocking companies centered around a bank and basically keiretsus are the key to the Japanese success story, since the invidual companies do not need to focus entirely on profit and can sometimes lose some money, they can help each other, and the group creates a barrier against competitors, because of the immense size of them all combined. Fuji Bank is at the center of the Fuyo keiretsu which consists of Canon, Hitachi, Marubeni, Matsuya, Nissan, Ricoh, Tobu Railway and Yamaha.

So for things like drug money laundry it is an interesting bank, because it has the potential to circle the money through a great number of corporations and can therefore launder it a lot more efficient and lot less transparant than most.

Heroin(TM)

More thinking outloud:
The Iran-Contra period also coincides with the heroin(TM) from Afghanistan and Europe being flooded with cheap heroin especially the red light district Amsterdam which also coincides with Paul Bremer's ambassador period (another period of Bremer's history which is a complete blank). Is it possible that the heroin(TM) from Afghanistan and the subsequent flooding of Europe with cheap heroin was also related to financing Iran-Contra.

For the disclaimer and copyright for my posts. See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=100059&mesg_id=100068

[BeHereNow]

52. Refreshing to encounter your POV.

Thanks for the link and making the point that
we must focus on that which can be proven.
DO look into Sutton's work.
BHN

[whistle]

53. This is great, watching now, thanks for posting

<self edit>

oops, posted to wrong thread