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Bryan Sacks Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 09:57 AM
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Slip-up, nothing to hear here or trap? Bush "says" explosives in Towers
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 09:59 AM by Bryan Sacks
I've been away for a day or so. Has this been posted?

http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/09/secret-agent-man.html

for text of Bush's remarks:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html

I'm reserving judgment on the significance of this ( I lean toward the 'trap' analysis). I have not seen the clip of Bush speaking. Jeff Wells' observation re: KSM are right on the money, however, as are his comments about the media's ignoring statements of this kind.

I hope people will consider the unlikelihood that Bush would have an admission written into the text of his comments.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:29 AM
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1. The blog makes some interesting observations. Worth the read for sure.
Thanks for posting it.
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michael_1166 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 12:20 PM
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4. Rigorous Intuition is one of the best blogs
for making sense of the bigger picture. I read it daily.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:52 AM
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2. more distraction
i vote for trap too -- a clever plot (they hope) to further divide the truth movement.

and even if what moron is saying is true -- using explosives at Point B doesn't necessarily mean you used them at point A. that's simple logic.

there is more than enough non-physical evidence to hang the junta.
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KJF Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 12:17 PM
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3. Treat with extreme caution
It just might be real, but it sure as hell smells like a trap.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 01:13 PM
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5. Hmmm... I'm leaning toward trap also, but
He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.


If the planes could have hit lower, without hitting other buildings, wouldn't that have meant more death, and hence been more effective? The whole statement is nonsensical to me.

So here's the scene: the White House invoking invisible man Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to excite our imagination with an oddly-worded statement strongly suggestive of demolition, when our attention would be better rewarded by considering Khalid himself, his service to the ISI and the ISI's service to US intelligence. But Bush will never be written the words to encourage such thoughts.


This is an extremely smart, and thoughtful individual. They constantly let weird words and phrases slip on the Pentagon, Flight '93, and now WTC. These are the things they want us to look at, rather than the relationships and behavior, the money, the thwarting of investigations, and so on. Our debunkers seem to prefer the WH's favored subjects, also. They're more sensational, I guess.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:50 AM
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6. I think this is just something they threw up against the wall.
It doesn't seem to be sticking.
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:53 PM
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7. I believe it is something completely different

In his attempt to justify torture, Bush explicitly refers to "valuable" knowledge that allegedly "helped disrupt terrorist plots". Planned attacks, obviously, not those that already have happened. What is interesting here is that the purported details of this alleged KSM confession do not seem to be "valuable" at all, they do not even make sense ... why would it be useful to know that "operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping"? Not to mention that the vertical position of explosives before detonating them seems to be completely irrelevant as to whether people are trapped in an exploded and presumably collapsed building.

Yes, I think there is a hidden reference in this sentence to the 9/11 attacks, as well as to the anthrax letters in another part of Bush's statement. But Bush usually addresses his core electorate in his televised speeches, not college educated bloggers, 9/11 skeptics and liberals, or journalists. He addresses the dummies who think he is fresh and authentic. They never questioned 9/11 or the war'n'terror meme. So when the question comes up whether or not we should torture them terrists a little in order to gain "valuable" information, these oblique references to the Pearl Harbour of the New Century make the average Republican foot soldier immediately go into total assent mode. That's all there is to it, IMO.
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