Found some good pics of the damage on WTC7

[DoYouEverWonder]

These are just the thumbnails. Click on link for hi-res images: http://www.spesh.com/mirrors/wtc2/page_02.htm













Here's the first one at full size - There's some damage to the SW Corner of the building but nothing too bad and no signs of fire around the impact area. Of course, one of these pictures is the same one used in the NIST report that the OCTers claim proves the building was on fire. I think when you see the whole series it is apparent that these pictures were taken while WTC 1 was collapsing and that the plumes are the clouds from the collapse.

[Nozebro]

1. Yep, no doubt about it. That building suicided itself. Maybe with a

little help from Uncle T or one of Uncle T's cousins (thanks MP).

[dailykoff]

2. LOL

I guess it just got depressed

[dailykoff]

3. Great pics.

Building 7 wasn't any more damaged than any other neighboring building and far less than Bankers Trust, which they're still trying to pull down, LOL.

Looking at that gouge in the Winter Garden makes me want to throw up all over again. What kind of sick bastards would pull that crap in their own freakin' country? "Psychopaths" is no hyperbole.

:cry:

[Sinti]

4. Too bad we can't see down to the ground floor. n/t

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. The lower floors of WTC 7

Where below the plaza level so not only would they have been protected by the WTC6, they would have been protected by being below plaza level.

Funny thing about WTC 7, the building failed at the 5th floor which was above ground but didn't have any windows, since it was a mechanical floor. Since it wasn't used for office space there shouldn't have been very much on that floor in the way of combustibles? Except of course all those generators, fuel tanks, and pressurized fuel lines that they installed in the mid 90's.

[Sinti]

6. Wouldn't a mechanical floor be made of tougher stuff than the rest

of the structure? I just know someone will say, the damage was worse below what you can see there, or similar. :shrug:

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. The 5th to 7th Floors of WTC7 were heart of the building

The fifth floor had lot's of extra reinforcements and the bases of the trusses and the support beams were all located in this section.

Of course, Hauer insisted on running the fuel pipes for his generators right under the trusses and beams, which FDNY told him was a bad idea.

In order to bring the building down you had to take out the 5th - 7th floors. According to the NIST report the building failed on the 5th Floor. I think with the system they had in place, you could do it with as few as 3 cuts.

[k-robjoe]

7. I think actually

I think actually you´re wrong.
Because you can see that the photographer has changed position in the photos with collapse dust.

I think they really show WTC7 burning. And then WTC7 collapsing.
You can tell by the shadows that these photos were taken at the time of the WTC7 collapse.

[mogster]

8. No, that's not possible

The chronology of the images show that WTC 7 was standing in the last shots, where the photographer took several photos of the building.
I think they're taken some time after the second tower fell, as some streets have been cleaned up for easier access to the site, and the fire in WTC 6. The dust cloud also suggests some time have passed.
Here's the sight as the second tower fell, it must have produced a lot of debris down the Vesey street.



I opened the newfound pics in an exif-viewer, to see if there was any timestamp or other identificators, but there weren't.
The photo above, from Popular Mechanics mag, produced this, though ;-)

Image Description = View from the north of the WTC 1 collapse and the spread of debris around WTC 7. Note the two mechanical penthouses of WTC 7 are intact.
Orientation = top/left
Software = Adobe Photoshop CS Macintosh
Date Time = 2005-02-07 12:46:44
Artist = New York City Mayor's Office of Emergency Management
Color Space = Uncalibrated
Exif Image Width = 600
Exif Image Height = 597
Thumbnail = 160 x 159

[DoYouEverWonder]

9. The 1st thru 7th floors

were mostly mechanical space and lobby areas. There was very little office space on these floors. What was on these floors to even burn? And even if there was some combustibles there, most of it would burn out relatively quickly?

Of course there was a lot of fuel stored down there but all of the big fuel tanks were found intact. However, two tanks were empty and there was no sign of contamination under the slab. Wonder were the fuel went?

[k-robjoe]

10. But there is...?

But there is no doubt that this was taken in the afternoon?
The sun is shining on the west side of the building.
( Compare to photo two posts above, with WTC1 collapsing. )

[k-robjoe]

11. No doubt

This removes all doubt :



From :

http://911myths.com/html/wtc7_smoke_4.html

[mogster]

13. That's a very strange photo

Although no stranger than the rest of events going on that day.
How come there are no trace of smoke coming out through the windows on the side, if that building is burning at the rate that smoke reflects?

It's the same time period as from the previous photos in this thread. Some time after the North Tower fell, and the dust had receded. That smoke is most probably from WTC 6:

[DemInDistress]

21. are those water hoses I see being pumped into WT6? sure

looks like it. Certain people claim there was no water available to fight the fires in WT7. I see 2 streams
of pressurized water. Do you?
If WT7 was ablaze as claimed why didn't the firemen attend to it? Orders from larry silverstein? Giuliani?

what time of day was this taken? its another reason NIST needs to release those 7,000 photo's and hundreds of
hours of videotape gladly submitted by the public in hopes of furthering (I mean hindering) the 911 attack
investigation.

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. The photo used in the NIST report

is obviously from at least an hour or two earlier based on the size of the shadow on the building in the foreground. Yet the character, color and thickness of the smoke is unchanged?

Again no pictures show flames coming out of the south side of WTC 7. Only smoke a fair bit of which is being generated by the fires in WTC 5 & 6 plus the fires and steam rising off of the collapsed towers.

Also the smaller fire on two floor at about the middle of the west side has already burnt out by the time the earlier picture was taken.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Here's a pic looking down the street that WTC7 was on

later that night after the building collapsed.



Still lot's of billowing smoke coming up from behind the Winter Garden.

It seems the breeze has picked up some and from what I remember it did rain at the site that night. Plus there no longer is a building blocking any breeze that might have come up but there's still lot's of smoke.

[TomClash]

15. This photo is taken from the other side of the Hudson River

in Jersey City.

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. So?

We know there was nothing between there and the WTC other then the Hudson River.

I would like to find a closer shot from that side at night to show the smoke better, but that picture is pretty clear that there is still billowing smoke coming up from behind the Winter Garden.

[TomClash]

17. I was just clarifying the record

It's not taken from Vesey Street

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. I didn't imply that it was

I thought the picture was clear enough.

[TomClash]

20. In that pic, you're not looking down the street where 7 was nt