I know I am probably way behind on this, but can someone

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tell me if the cause of the smoke plume in the image below has ever been resolved?

[wildbilln864]

1. I have yet to hear of this photo being explaned!

Maybe it's the plume produced when the explosives in building 7 went off! Then they had to finish the job later that afternoon!
By the way, welcome to the dungeon, Tex.

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8. Thanks for the welcome, wildbilln864! And thanks to the rest of

you, too!

Looks like, from what you guys have shown me here, this plume is caused by the collapse of the South Tower.

I got the image from a video on YouTube and it was taken way out of context and edited in such a way that they provided out a few frames in slow-motion and you can't tell that the South Tower is collapsing.

I'm still on the fence as to whether PNAC MIHOP or LIHOP. But I know in my gut that it was one or the other.

[rman]

2. It is from the collapse of the south tower

(which can be seen collapsing behind the other tower in the photo you posted)

Other footage of the same collapse shows this clearly.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4563604978641682920&q=9-11+eyewitness
(collapse starting at ~5m50sec)

[mirandapriestly]

3. maybe, but before the collapse you can see smoke

at the base of the building near that area and I wonder if the collapse wasn't used as cover for whatever was happening at the "plume". I don't see why it rises there and not in other places.

[rman]

4. Dust clouds do rise elsewhere,

in front of the towers and to the rightside of the video frame.
Dust clouds rise up whereever there is a building in the path of the dust.

The smoke seen before the collapse may well be caused by burning cars set on fire by falling debris - there is footage from cameraplanet, via video.google (sorry, i don't have a link at hand) showing this.

Fact is the disputed dust cloud does coinicide with the collapse of the south tower - although you can't tell that from the video that sparked this controversy to begin with; that video does not show the collapse of the south tower just seconds before the dust cloud rises.

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Not straight up like that one

It is coming up from around the area of WTC6 and the big hole in the building is probably the crater from whatever blew and caused the cloud.

[mogster]

10. I'm don't think so, DoYouEverWonder

The smoke flows around the whole complex in a matter of seconds, and if you look at this video it's consistent with what the eye can see. But there were smoke at the base of the towers prior to the collapse of WTC2.
http://www.nitrogen.no/blogfiles/september2006/jersey_wtc2fall.mpg

What's the official story on the hole in the WTC 6 btw? Is it explained in some way?

[DemInDistress]

11. look at this short video clip..it shows a smoke cloud rising

prior to the collapse of WT2.

http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem4/wtcwestblow.php

what do you see?

[mirandapriestly]

12. Thanks DiD,I think the later cloud is related to that smoke

and, it was "timed" to go up when the building came down to mask it.

[mogster]

9. I agree

It becomes clear after watching the footage that the plume is a dust/smoke plume from the collapse of WTC2. But the footage also shows suspicious smoke at the base of the WTC tower 2 prior to the collapse. Btw rman, did you notice the sudden shift in smoke behind the WTC2 just before the camera starts to zoom?
I made a video of that in double speed, it becomes clearer that it is a gust of smoke.
http://www.nitrogen.no/blogfiles/september2006/jersey_wtc2fall.mpg

[JackRiddler]

5. The plume was first raised & debunked in 2002

but it's one of these unkillables. Von Kleist brought it back in 2004 with his horrible documentary.

Here's a page on it:

http://questionsquestions.net/WTC/hoax.html

In the picture you show, the South Tower is obviously collapsed - the plume rising up against WTC 7 is one of many smoke columns marching around Lower Manhattan as a consequence. It can be seen in broader views of the ST collapse and clearly develops out of the larger cloud.

[hpot]

6. Video: Not in Plane Sight

Was Von Kleist's disinformation an accident? Judge for yourself.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7160274150347523777

[mirandapriestly]

13. "unkillables" -no, there is just a difference in opinion.eom

[mirandapriestly]

14. I think it is related to this

Patricia Ondrovic was an emr who spoke to the task force and later to Killtown. The OCTS's all try to discredit Killtown, but I find this interview to be credible, as I had email correspondence with her. She was not 9-11 savvy at all, and she didn't know if she believed the official theory or not.


KT: You mentioned you were running west on Vesey Street, what happened after that?

PO: I just kept running. I was aware there were other people running as well. After passing the cars on fire, I was trying to find someplace safe. I tried to run into the lobby of 6 World Trade, but there were federal police -- maybe 4 to 6 of them -- standing in the open doorways. As I tried to run in, they wouldn't let me, waving me out, telling me "you can't come in here, keep running." As I turned to start running west again, I saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one-by-one like the X-mass lights that "chase" in pattern. I think I started running faster at that point.

KT: Did you hear any "popping" sounds when each of these flashes in the WTC 6 lobby were going off?

PO: Yes, that part was like a movie. The pops were at the same time as the flashes.

KT: Can you estimate either how many flashes you saw or how many of these "pops" you heard inside this lobby?

PO: At least 6 before I was turned away.

KT: Could you still hear any of these explosions when you turned to run back out, or was the noise outside too loud?

PO: I don't recall hearing any more when I resumed running. It was very chaotic.

KT: Now to be clear, were you inside the Lobby of the WTC 6, or were you outside the building when you witnessed these what appeared to be explosions?

PO: I was in the doorway, but not inside the lobby. I remember being able to breathe the somewhat cleaner air coming from inside the building. They stopped me as I was trying to get past the threshold.
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html
KT: Were the explosions going off as you were entering the lobby area, or did they seem to start going off after the police tried to turn you away?

PO: It all happened at the same time. As I got to the doorway, I was told not to come in. As the officer was telling me I couldn't get in the building the flashes starting going off.

KT: Where the police just right at the lobby door, or were some also way inside the building?

PO: There were probably 4-5 officers in the doorway. I could see a few others back in the lobby area.

KT: You said you saw "federal police." What exactly do you mean and did you find it strange they were in there and that they wouldn't let you in?

PO: Well, they were in light brown uniforms and "Smokey the bear" hats. I assumed they were federal police because NYC police don't look like that and I knew there was a lot of federal offices in the WTC as well as the surrounding area, so it wasn't strange to me to see them there, but I did find it very odd that they wouldn't let me in to get cover. But like I say, in that profession, someone tells you to go an opposite way you are going, you don't ask, you just go. I remember hoping they got out as I was watching whatever the small explosions were, because they stayed in the building. They weren't locking it up after evacuating or anything like that.

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KT: Did these policemen run out of the WTC 6 lobby after these explosions occurred, or could you tell?

PO: It didn't look like they did. It looked like they were there making sure no one ran in like I tried to do. I remember seeing them in the doorway, but don't know what happened to them after that.

KT: Did you happen to notice if they were wearing any earplugs or any other uncommon protective gear?

PO: There was nothing that I could see. They appeared to be dressed to simply do lobby detail. No flack wear, no overcoats, no helmets. To this day, I still wonder if they got out.

KT: Did you think these explosions in the lobby were maybe lights popping out as in an electrical surge, or did they seem more like explosives going off in a timed manner?

PO: I immediately got the impression they were timed explosives. I have never thought they were anything else, not then, not now.


KT: Have you ever seen a building being demolished with explosives on TV and was the flashes and pops similar to that?

PO: It did remind me of just that. I had seen something on a Las Vegas casino being demolished and that's what it reminded me of.



KT: Can you try to describe what these "pops" you heard sounded like?

PO: They sounded like light bulbs popping, but there were no light fixtures where the explosions were coming from. The sound was not all that loud.

KT: Do you think these explosions you witnessed were loud enough to be heard on the street?

PO: Because of everything going on, I don't think these "pops" could have been heard from the street. It was definitely louder outside as a whole.

KT: At the time, who did you think planted these explosives in there?

PO: I didn't have any notions of where to put blame per se, but I remember thinking that it was possibly the same organization who tried to blow up the building back in 1993. I figured they came back to finish the job. At the time I was running, I remember thinking that "they" wired the whole area. At the time I wasn't aware that what made the towers catch fire were passenger jets crashing. I thought the buildings had bombs planted to go off that
KT: Can you estimate how long after you heard the loud rumbling, which was the South Tower coming down, to when you witnessed these explosives going off in the WTC 6?

PO: Well, remember this was all on the same street I was parked. It is very difficult for me to estimate time with so much happening at once, but I want to say maybe 2 to 3 minutes from the rumbling and the ground, and the cars, and the fires, that I tried to run into 6 WTC for cover, which is when I saw those explosions.

KT: Did anybody else besides you and the police witness these explosions in the WTC 6 lobby?

PO: I imagine there must have been others to see, I wasn't the only one running up the street. I can't imagine being the only person to try to run for cover. I didn't see any "civilians" in the lobby of the 6, just the brown uniformed officers.
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