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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:27 PM
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Just rumours?
From a mail that is being passed around (Just a rumour?):

"here's another tidbit. i worked for the bank that several of
the "terrorist " held accounts in. during the investigation we found
that none of these men had the basic information that any american
opening an account would HAVE to provide in order to open that
account. such as

social security or alien id
telephone number
Valid non p o b address
mothers maiden name
Drivers license or State ID #'s

WE couldn't understand how they could have gotten these accounts when
even as employees they want all but a DNA sample before they'll even
give you the paperwork to complete."
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:30 PM
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1. Dentist
More evidence of protection? :

"A dentist who claims he met three of the Sept. 11 hijackers in Shreveport one year before the attacks has mysteriously fallen ill and is on life support. (...) Mike Sledge, a friend of Graham, has a manuscript of Graham's book, "The Graham Report: The true story of three 9-11 hijackers who were reported to the FBI 10 months before 9-11." In it, Graham claims he met the hijackers at a home in Shreveport in September 2000 and thought they were plotting an attack on Barksdale Air Force Base. He said he reported them to the FBI..."

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=364
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:36 PM
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2. Episodes on september the tenth?
More evidence of foreknowledge? :

"...the extreme nature of the events of that night in San Jose meant that someone knew something about a threat to U.S. airliners 12 hours before the hijacking began in Boston."

http://www.the-movement.com/essays/lies.htm
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:36 PM
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3. This story is strange....
Someone must have waived these requirements, therefore why would mere employees have access to this kind of information. Under Ashcroft and Jeb Bush, all files would 'disappear'. It doesn't seem possible that employees would have this information. Especially if a bank exec was complicit in setting up the no-documents accounts.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:42 PM
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4. Think about the timeline that is being presented...
10 months before the attacks??? Could it be that this is going to circulate in order to blame the Clinton administration for the intelligence problems?? Methinks I smell a rat!
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:52 PM
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5. Dubyas uncle
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 02:56 PM by k-robjoe
But isn´t it like : The bank in question is run by Dubyas uncle?

On edit : I see that you were answering to post#1.

O.K: That might be. But it might very well be true, the FBI being in on plans that go beyond precidency...
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:55 PM
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6. I believe you are correct on that, but I am still skeptical of...
the ten month thing from the Dentist.
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 03:06 PM
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7. Off topic
About the Nick Berg murder :

"Based on this investigator’s review of the video with specific focus on the series of frames that depict the actual act of cutting the victim and the consequential decapitation, there appear to be significant inconsistencies with the cutting and decapitation of the victim. Most significant is the lack of arterial spurting (or gushing), which normally occurs when the artery of a live human victim is breached or cut. This investigator has reviewed numerous crime scenes where an artery of a living person was breached, many by a sharp instrument. In every case, arterial spurting exhibited common characteristics and can best be described as follows:
(...)

"Those stains which are classed as arterial damage patterns, spurts and gushes, occur as a release of blood under pressure after the fact rather than from a direct assault… Once opened, arteries may continue spurting as long as the heart continues to pump and blood is available in the vessel. This means that arterial spurt patterns may be recorded on bystanders responding to the victim after an assailant is gone.”

“It must be noted that arterial damage can project blood great distances.”

"Taking into account the definitions and characteristics of arterial rain, arterial fountain, arterial breach, arterial spurting and arterial gushing, and the obvious breaching or cutting of both carotid arteries of the victim while he was purportedly alive, one would expect to observe significantly more force behind the emission of blood from the victim’s wounds to his throat. Even as the victim was lying in a horizontal position to the ultimate target surface (the floor), there was little, if any, evidence of arterial spurting or gushing. A cut or breached artery has the ability to project a substantial amount of blood a significant distance away from the victim. In many cases, the distance can be five feet or more. Another characteristic of arterial spurting is the familiar “W” pattern made by the blood under pressure.(...)"
"CONCLUSION: Based on the investigative analysis conducted, it is the professional assessment of this investigator that the blood pattern shown in the video is NOT consistent with the cutting or breaching of the carotid artery or arteries of a person where the victim’s blood pressure would be considered to be within the normal range. Based on this observation alone, this investigator questions the authenticity of the video as it was been presented for bloodstain pattern analysis."

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/bloodstainanalysis.asp
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 04:38 PM
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8. try to trace the email back to whoever sent it
email the person you got it from and try to trace it back to whoever sent it.

it's worthless info (no rpoof of anything) as a spam email though.



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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:14 PM
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9. Giving it a try
(And I´m sending you a mail with the info I´ve got.)
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 07:54 PM
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10. thanks
it's a good bit of info to add to the stew if true. not sure how to really verify it, though. .. keep digging.

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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 03:53 AM
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11. Reply
Reply from the "source" ( Doesn´t look very convincing to me I´m afraid ) :

" for my own safety i have nothing else to say on the matter i don't want to get carried out of my house with no due process because of it, but it did happen we were given a list of names and aliases and told to look up their activity and we found them missing the normal info as i said. "
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 01:22 PM
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12. Off topic
"Lack of NORAD Response on 9/11 Explained

For six weeks I have been investigating a number of other 9/11 wargames that link directly to the work done by Global Free Press on Tripod II and other wargames. I am not exaggerating when I say that we may be close to the Holy Grail of 9/11.
(...)

The wargames will tie Bush and/or Cheney and Rumsfeld directly into a complete paralysis of fighter response on 9/11. I have gone directly to many NORAD, DoD, NRO, and other sources and questioned them. I have knocked on many doors and I have even obtained some documents. I have obtained an on-the-record statement from someone in NORAD, which confirmed that on the day of 9/11 The Joint Chiefs (Myers) and NORAD were conducting a joint, live-fly, hijack Field Training Exercise (FTX) which involved at least one (and almost certainly many more) aircraft under US control that was posing as a hijacked airliner. That is just the tip of what I have uncovered."

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060704_tripod_fema.html




“Top Ten Things You Never Knew About Mohamed Atta.”

NUMBER 8. Mohamed Atta, Islamic Party Animal

"Atta and his crew were always flush with lots and lots of money," said Stephanie Frederickson, a 50-year old housewife and foster mother who with her husband lived right next door to Atta’s apartment. “Those guys were all really party animals."
(...)
NUMBER 9: Mohamed Atta, Beastie Boys fan.
Atta often listened to them non-stop.

http://www.madcowprod.com/indexbbb.html


"The picture that Hopsicker paints of the Florida Atta is impossible to reconcile with descriptions of the quiet and pious architecture student in Hamburg. Think of the Beastie Boys and this quote from his friend in Germany, Volker Hauth:
"We spoke about music cause I'm interested in music and I like playing music and he told me for Muslims it is not allowed to listen to music or to enjoy music in the way people from the western world enjoy music because of the impact of music. If you have a look to the young people dancing, very loud music, the impact is comparable to the impact of drugs and this is not allowed to Muslims.""

http://www.xymphora.blogspot.com
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