Is HAARP capable of affecting the weather?

[Buttercup McToots]

HIGH FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURORAL RESEARCH PROGRAM

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/index.html

The High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is a congressionally initiated program jointly managed by the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Navy. The program's goal is to provide a state-of-the-art U.S. owned ionospheric research facility readily accessible to U.S. scientists from universities, the private sector and government. This facility would be the most advanced in the world and would attract international scientists and foster cooperative research efforts. The program's purpose is to provide a research facility to conduct pioneering experiments in ionospheric phenomena. The data obtained from the proposed research would be used to analyze basic ionospheric properties and to assess the potential for developing ionospheric enhancement technology for communications and surveillance purposes.

Is HAARP capable of affecting the weather?
The HAARP facility will not affect the weather. Transmitted energy in the frequency ranges that will be used by HAARP is not absorbed in either the troposphere or the stratosphere - the two levels of the atmosphere that produce the earth's weather. Electromagnetic interactions only occur in the near-vacuum of the rarefied region above about 70 km known as the ionosphere.
The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm. If the ionospheric storms caused by the sun itself don't affect the surface weather, there is no chance that HAARP can do so either.

[Rick Myers]

1. I have read just about everything on HAARP and...

The govt loves to claim 'it's nothing.' BUT, that much energy directed at a specific spot in the atmosphere, DOES have the ability to effect weather in a localized area. That it can be 'controlled' is debatable, but there is no doubt research using the HAARP transmitters has looked into localized weather control. It's documented in the Air Force's own 2025 documents.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

2. yeah sure....

And they call "chemtrails" as naturally occurring jet "contrails", yet they have nothing in common with a real jet contrail. Chemtrails that have fallen from the sky have been analysed as having barium particles, aluminum particles, unidentifiable fibers, pathogenic bacteria, and other nonsensical stuff in them.

[TheWraith]

6. None of that is true, and whoever told you it is is lying to you.

A little research, or a consultation with any credible expert, will tell you that there are no such things as "chemtrails." There's never been any solid evidence presented, and despite the repeated claims, nobody has ever produced a lab report to back up those statements about testing. It's all hearsay. The phenomenon is, in fact, simple contrails, which can vary in size and longevity according to the weather patterns at their altitude.

[valerief]

3. I've wondered about this but I'm no scientist and I get tired of

being tinfoiled.

I don't think HAARP can be ruled out as a weapon against humanity via weather control. As Rumsfeld would put it, "There could be unknown unknowns that will make themselves known someday."

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. No.

But Bigfoot is.

[TheWraith]

5. Absolutely not.

Besides the fact that its effect is well beyond the weather layer, the amount of energy being put out by HAARP at its maximum yield is a garden hose in the Niagara river compared to normal solar energy flux. It's simply not capable of the crazy things that are usually attributed to it.

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

22. self delete

[lovuian]

7. I believe that Haarp has heated the atmosphere

and is responsible for Global Warming plus Co2

the Irony is they won't be able to conitnue use on it

[Buttercup McToots]

8. I am suspious about everything these days...

:thumbsdown:

[Anarcho-Socialist]

23. You are a comedy genius n/t

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

9. Nope

It can't do jack shit. To missiles either.

[porphyrian]

10. No reputable scientist would claim that HAARP doesn't affect the weather...

...solely based on its frequencies not being absorbed by the two atmospheric layers considered to produce weather. There are too many ways, either indirect or unforseen, manipulating any part of the atmosphere can have global results. Hopefully, they won't do irreparable damage in accumulating the data of its actual effects.

[Ian David]

12. I think it causes nerve subluxations through homeopathic vibrations to create crop circles. n/t

[porphyrian]

13. Ha! That's soooo clever!

You crack me up when you act like an asshole.

[Ian David]

14. Hey, you're good at what you love.

Edited to add: Please, nobody hit "alert" on this guy. I don't mind him calling me an asshole.

Really.

[qazplm]

15. solar wind

is oodles and I mean serious oodles more powerful than anything HAARP or anything else manmade could ever come up with. HAARP is not affecting our weather.

[JackRiddler]

18. A pebble

weighs millions of times less than the avalanche it starts.

A sex drive weighs not even half a pound's worth of glands and hormones, yet it may dominate the behavior of someone who carries 400 times that mass.

A butterfly in China can create eddies that affect the weather in Europe.

Etc. etc.

The energy that the sun shines on my house every day could burn it down, were it so focused. But it's not. What if there was a way of focusing it?

These statements are of course little more than metaphor - not unlike the bullshit dismissal you provide.

Show exactly what HAARP does, to what purpose, with what results. Then you will actually speak with greater authority than anyone else.

Oh, you can't because the information is not released to the public? Well then, your speculation is as good as anyone else's.

[Ian David]

11. No.

And it's been discussed to death here on DU repeatedly already.



See also:
HIGH FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURORAL RESEARCH PROGRAM
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/index.html

For live Webcam images of HAARP, visit:
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/cam.fcgi

To arrange a guided tour:
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/moreInfo.html

[Kingshakabobo]

17. OK. Give me your address cause I'm sending you the bill for a new monitor.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[lies and propaganda]

16. omg, i cant believe I clicked the moved link

just to see if it ended up here, and it fucking did.

Not everything in the world that isnt 'mainstream enough' has a goddamned thing to do with 911.

Isnt it doing the 911 forum a disservice?

[DemReadingDU]

20. maybe the science thread instead?

weird

[Anarcho-Socialist]

25. It doesn't qualify as science n/t

[Anarcho-Socialist]

24. They each have tinfoil in common n/t

[TheWraith]

28. It would be hard to do this forum any disservice it doesn't already do itself. NT.

[Buttercup McToots]

19. How the hell did I get here?

September 11?
I was talking about the weather fer gawds sake...

[DemReadingDU]

21. totally bizarre

I tried to recommend, and get

Error: You can't recommend threads from this forum

[Buttercup McToots]

26. Check this oot...

http://www.mercola.com/2007/jan/2/angels-dont-play-this-haarp.htm

[hack89]

27. This is the catch-all conspiracy forum. nt

[rman]

29. you were speculating about conspiracy,

After all, officially HAARP does not affect the weather.