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freedom fighter jh
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:33 PM Original message |
Challenge to OCT'ers |
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Bolo Boffin
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh, no, not this again |
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freedom fighter jh
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. When did you see it before? |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Check here for starters: |
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freedom fighter jh
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. There's a lot to sort through on those pages. |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Yes, yes there is. nt |
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wildbilln864
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. doesn't matter where it was... |
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Bolo Boffin
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Like you think this is an original challenge? |
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freedom fighter jh
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I did not say it's original. |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Links at post 3. |
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freedom fighter jh
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I looked at them |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Waste time learning? Whatever. nt |
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John Q. Citizen
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Looks like they failed your challenge, ff jh. n/t |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The "challenge" is basically a mealy straw argument. |
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John Q. Citizen
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. You guys have been challenged to read "Welcome to Terrorland" and |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Maybe one of those mentioned in the OP will show up and want to discuss it. |
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freedom fighter jh
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Tue Jan-16-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I have to agree, JQC. n/t |
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DoYouEverWonder
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Tue Jan-16-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. Notice the lack of content from the OCTers? |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The objection was that there was TOO MUCH CONTENT. |
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DoYouEverWonder
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Tue Jan-16-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Like I said |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Sometimes I don't feel like chatting it up. |
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DoYouEverWonder
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. If you don't want to 'chat' |
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Twist_U_Up
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. * |
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greyl
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Read what I typed again. |
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greyl
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Wed Jan-17-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
53. I notice a lack of content (lack of a reply) regarding my question. |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Yes, when will this factual information be refuted? |
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Bolo Boffin
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Tue Jan-16-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. First off, point to any building whatsoever that has collapsed in over twice free-fall speeds. |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. www.911myths.com / WTCREPORT.pdf -- Yes. REFUTE that. |
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freedom fighter jh
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Check the OP again, Bolo |
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Bolo Boffin
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Tue Jan-16-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. My mistake on using the word speed for time. However... |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Jan-16-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
19. It wouldn't even have fallen that fast with a conventional controlled demolition. |
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Twist_U_Up
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Back to the OP...The question is .................for clarification....... |
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Bolo Boffin
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. See Post #17: I reject this ludicrous benchmark in totality. n/t |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. No. I do not believe the OCT. But I do not believe the CCT either. |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Yes!!! Spud-power brought it down! |
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wildbilln864
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:36 AM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Well that makes plenty of since. |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Jan-17-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. CCT = commercial conspiracy theory |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. OH. Good. Grief. Get out the Viagra again. |
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Twist_U_Up
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. One more time.....try to stay on topic |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. No, but I'm no more an expert than you. Can you refute the expert opinion? |
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Twist_U_Up
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. You dont know me |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Are you a structural engineer? I am not. |
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Twist_U_Up
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Wed Jan-17-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
65. Are you implying that I dont know what the fuck I'm talking about ? |
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MervinFerd
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Fri Jan-19-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. Yes. |
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Bolo Boffin
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Wed Jan-17-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
66. See Post #17: I reject this ludicrous benchmark in totality. |
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LARED
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
89. Lets put a little math to your definition of near free fall |
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freedom fighter jh
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
67. For the nth time, Mervin . . . |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #67 |
92. How does that happen? |
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freedom fighter jh
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Sat Jan-20-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. It seems Dr. Greening presumes all the falling mass contributed to acclerating the mass below it. |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. No |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. What's your hypothesis? How many TONS of explosive would that take? |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. A simple question: STILL NO ANSWER! |
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freedom fighter jh
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
58. My hypothesis is that the it makes no sense . . . |
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MervinFerd
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Then, your hypothesis is false. Wasn't that easy? |
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freedom fighter jh
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. All right, then consider just a few floors below the height . . . |
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AZCat
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. You are incorrect. |
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freedom fighter jh
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Thu Jan-18-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Plastic Deformation |
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AZCat
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Thu Jan-18-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Plastic deformation occurs rapidly during certain conditions. |
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quickesst
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. Be aware.... |
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Bolo Boffin
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. See Post #17: The benchmark is ludicrous. |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Can YOU refute Demo World? HOW MANY 100s of TONs of TNT? |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. Name one bldg caused to "Free Fall" by explosives. |
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dailykoff
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Why don't you just answer the question? (n/t) |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Because it is an irrelevant and ignorant question. But.... |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Why don't YOU answer the question? And refute the expert's opinion... |
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dailykoff
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Tue Jan-16-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
39. LMAO! See how they run. |
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MervinFerd
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Tue Jan-16-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Right. WHEN WILL YOU REFUTE THE DEMOWORLD DOC???? |
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vincent_vega_lives
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #39 |
78. That was not the question FF put forth! (n/t) |
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salvorhardin
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Tue Jan-16-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. Why should there have been any other structure? |
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wildbilln864
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
52. welcome to the dungeon! |
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greyl
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Wed Jan-17-07 06:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. As you see, everyone is typing in Sanskrit. |
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MervinFerd
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Nor can we name any other 110 story bldg hit by a jetliner and having.... |
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freedom fighter jh
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. Thanks, Wildbilln. Happy to be here. nt |
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vincent_vega_lives
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Wed Jan-17-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
59. What you don't understand is |
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freedom fighter jh
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Wed Jan-17-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Thank you, Vincent Vega, for explaining . . . |
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vincent_vega_lives
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Your welcome |
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John Q. Citizen
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. This, for one thing, is incorrect: |
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G Hawes
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Wed Jan-17-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. And every bridge is "designed" not to fall |
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wildbilln864
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. and none of your.... |
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wildbilln864
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. here, I'll make it easy for you guys. |
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AZCat
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Wed Jan-17-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. First... |
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G Hawes
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:11 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Here, I'll make it easy for you, "wildbill" |
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vincent_vega_lives
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. That wasn't even FF's question (n/t) |
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G Hawes
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Thu Jan-18-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Your point? |
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John Q. Citizen
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Funny how fallible these engineers are when designing the towers and how |
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AZCat
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Except no-one has claimed that. |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
99. You're ignoring the empirical evidence |
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dailykoff
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Sat Jan-20-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. All the empirical evidence indicates explosives. |
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Bolo Boffin
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Sat Jan-20-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Bullshit. |
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dailykoff
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Sat Jan-20-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. That's a fair characterization of that report, yes. (n/t) |
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Bolo Boffin
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Sat Jan-20-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Nuh-uh. n/t |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Photo analysis, eh? |
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dailykoff
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Sat Jan-20-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. I'm talking about the steel, not the pyrotechnics. |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Running out of things to say?!? |
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dailykoff
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Sat Jan-20-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Let me know when you're ready to discuss the evidence. (n/t) |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Let me know when you've got some |
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dailykoff
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Sun Jan-21-07 02:12 AM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Thanks, but I'll leave the magician's forum |
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AZCat
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Sun Jan-21-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #105 |
114. That thread? The one where you repeatedly displayed... |
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dailykoff
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Sun Jan-21-07 02:11 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Please be specific in your claims of "lack of knowledge." |
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AZCat
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Sun Jan-21-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. "Specificity" is impossible when discussing... |
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dailykoff
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Sun Jan-21-07 02:20 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Thanks, I knew you couldn't. (n/t) |
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AZCat
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Sun Jan-21-07 02:24 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Did you know that like... |
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vincent_vega_lives
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Thu Jan-18-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #64 |
76. As usual a little information is dangerous |
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John Q. Citizen
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Thu Jan-18-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Yes I mistakenly wrote 757 instead of 767, yet the argument isn't changed |
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vincent_vega_lives
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Thu Jan-18-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Actually NO the fire was never a consideration |
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William Seger
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Fri Jan-19-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #64 |
85. So... |
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John Q. Citizen
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Give me the names of some independent engineers |
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LARED
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. How's this for an idea |
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LARED
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Sat Jan-20-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Edit |
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William Seger
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Fri Jan-19-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. "Independent" of what? |
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MervinFerd
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Wed Jan-17-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. No, you still don't understand. |
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William Seger
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Fri Jan-19-07 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
87. Some examples |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. Yoohoo! Down here! |
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treestar
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Sat Jan-20-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
96. I don't see why they don't just come out and set forth the |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Not sure what you're asking for |
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treestar
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Sat Jan-20-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. So reduce it to a chemical formula |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Reduce what to a chemical formula? |
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treestar
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Sat Jan-20-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. How much steel was there in the towers, what quantity of fire |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. WIthout references to any person or report? |
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William Seger
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Sat Jan-20-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. (dup deleted) |
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Nederland
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Sun Jan-21-07 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
120. Question |
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freedom fighter jh
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Mon Jan-22-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
121. Summary |
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William Seger
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Mon Jan-22-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Yes, you missed my examples in reply #87 (n/t) |
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freedom fighter jh
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Mon Jan-22-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Your Examples |
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William Seger
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Mon Jan-22-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. They were both gravitational "progressive collapses" |
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freedom fighter jh
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Mon Jan-22-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Answers to your issues. |
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William Seger
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Mon Jan-22-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Whatever |
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