Does anyone know the date of this BBC clip?

[CGowen]

http://stage6.divx.com/content/show/1134882?user_id=245557%20

[CJCRANE]

1. edit::

seems to be working

[Fainter]

2. It's Not The Feeb, It's Channel 5 n/t

[CGowen]

3. BBC World = Channel 5?

[Fainter]

4. I Believe I Was...

reliably informed downboard in another thread that Channel 5 is a commercial broadcaster in the UK. Hi, btw:>)

[CGowen]

6. I was confused because Channel 5 has it's own channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL6N66vPCAs

channel 5 is peddling the information about the outside structure of the wtc as crucial to stability (they give the wtc website as a source)


hi

[salvorhardin]

5. Fainter is correct

Five is a commercial broadcaster in the UK. It's an analogue terrestrial station (i.e. "over the air") but also available on all digital platforms and most cable systems in the UK.

Channel 5 Broadcasting Limited (As of 2006, still the legal name of the company, though it now trades exclusively as five) was licensed by the UK Government in 1995 after an exhaustive bidding process that lasted from 1993 and throughout 1994. The initial round of bidders, which included a network of city-TV stations planned by Thames Television, was rejected outright and the Independent Television Commission contemplated not awarding the licence at all.

The difficulty with the project lay in use of television broadcast frequencies that had been allocated to RF outputs from domestic video recorders. To achieve national coverage, large numbers of domestic video recorders (which output at a nearby frequency) had to be retuned or fitted with a filter, at the bidding company's expense.

The project was revived in mid 1994 when the Independent Television Commission re-advertised the franchise. Tom McGrath, then-president of Time Warner International Broadcasting, put together a revised frequency plan with NTL and consulting engineer Ellis Griffiths, involving less re-tuning and greater signal coverage. Lord Clive Hollick, then CEO of Meridian Broadcasting (later United News) took up the project as lead investor as UK law prohibited Time Warner from owning more than 25%. Ironically, when McGrath left to become President of Paramount, Time Warner dropped out of the project and was replaced by CLT/RTL who today control the network.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_(TV)
TinyURL link since DU eats the Wikipedia link: http://tinyurl.com/k8ug2

On edit: Here's a good article about Channel 5... http://www.offthetelly.co.uk/features/c5/understanding.htm

[CGowen]

7. I'm still confused

Your wiki tinyurl link goes to channel 4?



the BBC World wiki page says it is owned by BBC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_World

Where is C5 broadcast from?

Pearson Television Broadcasting (formerly Thames Engineering) are responsible for broadcasting Channel 5.

They broadcast from Stephen Street (off Tottenham Court Road in London) in a transmission suite that also includes Living (formerly UK Living), UK Gold, Discovery Italy/Africa, Disney, BBC World and any other channel they can get!

Channel 5's original proposal, as included in their licence application, was to use facilities at Elstree. For a number of reasons this was not possible and they are operating from a central London base only.
http://625.uk.com/channel5/index.htm

I'm not sure if I get it, Channel 5 just takes the BBC World feed and uses it on it's own network?

[salvorhardin]

8. Where does it say the BBC owns Five on BBC World's Wikipedia page?

BBC World is not Five.

My tinyURL link goes to the Wikipedia page for Five. DU eats the Wikipedia link for Five because of the underscore and parentheses. This link also redirects to the correct Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Five

Five is currently owned by the RTL group (which is in turn majority owned by Bertelsmann).

RTL originally stood for Radio Télévision Luxembourg (in French) or Radio Télé Luxemburg (in German).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTL_Group

The site you referenced refers to the fact that BBC World contracts with the private company Pearson PLC for broadcasting facilities because, for whatever reason, the BBC's facilities at Elstree were not available. In any case, I'm not sure that information is still accurate, although likely would have been true in 2001. See:

Pearson was founded by Samuel Pearson in 1844 as a building and engineering company called S. Pearson & Son. In 1880, control passed to his grandson Weetman, an engineer who turned it into one of the world's largest construction companies. By 1920, it was a holding company with businesses in building, oil drilling and refining, and finance. That year, it purchased a number of local newspapers in Britain, which it combined to form the Westminster Press. In 1957, it bought the Financial Times and a 50% stake in The Economist. In 1968, it purchased the publisher Longman in 1971 the Penguin Group, and the Education business of Simon & Schuster in 1998.

At the end of the 1980s, Pearson participated in the British Satellite Broadcasting consortium. BSB, choosing expensive methods and technology, was superseded by Rupert Murdoch's Sky Television, which used proven technology and leased transponders on Astra satellites. This allowed Sky to gain an important foothold in the multichannel market and the eventual "merger" was effectively a takeover by Sky, the new company was renamed British Sky Broadcasting (BSkyB) in late 1990.

During the 1990s, Pearson acquired a number of TV production and broadcasting assets and rid itself of most of its non-media assets. In January 2003, Pearson sold their 22% stake in RTL Group, the largest commercial television and radio broadcaster in the EU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_PLC#History

[CGowen]

9. I said BBC World is owned by BBC

http://tinyurl.com/k8ug2 this link goes to channel 4 when I click it



In the stage6 video in the OP you can see the logo of BBC World, and fainter said it's not the feeb it's channel 5.

It could also be an ironic comment, because Channel 5 has a funny reputation.

After all, entire networks are devoted to screening C5's famed mantra of "films, f***ing and football".

http://www.offthetelly.co.uk/features/c5/understanding.htm

[salvorhardin]

10. Sorry, my mistake on the tinyURL.

The correct and working URL (no tinyURL needed) as stated previously is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Five

Yes, Five had a very populist programming base (to put it kindly) early on. It does not change the fact that Five is not BBC World and is not programmed by the BBC in any way. I'm not sure why you're still trying to connect the two.

[CGowen]

11. I thought

feeb is somehow a slang word for BBC, therefore I thought fainters comment

It's Not The Feeb, It's Channel 5 n/t

meant somehow sarcastically the content or information is so bad/wrong it could be easily channel 5.


Maybe I was caught in a misunderstanding

[salvorhardin]

12. I was probably misunderstanding you then

My intention was only to delineate the difference between Five and BBC World.