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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 12:00 AM
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Did Kamenev and Zinoviev fake their own deaths and keep Stalin as figurehead ruler?
For example, initially Kamenev, Zinoviev, and Trotsky may have organized their own trials and, after the trials, ruled the USSR from within comfortable quarters hidden within the Gulag. For whatever reason, Kamenev and Zinoviev may have exiled Trotsky and then decided to order him assassinated. With Trotsky out of the way, they might have used directionally free temporal transport technology to enter Germany prior to October 1917 and compel the government of Germany to allow Lenin safe passage via sealed train through Germany and into Russia in time to lead the coup/revolution in Russia that created the USSR.

This would explain Steve Sailer's point of view. Some ancestors of Kamenev, Zinoviev, and Trotsky were adherents of Judaism. Hence the acquisition of political power by communists in Russia could be associated with people who had ancestors who had adhered to Judaism.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:03 PM
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1. Who knows? Who cares? What difference would it make?
This is just about the oddest conspiracy theory I've ever seen.

What's the point?

Redstone
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:06 PM
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5. Why should standard issue holocaust deniers get to consume
100% of the time reserved for history crackpots?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 11:10 PM
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6. If "Creation Research" organizations are entitled to lobby for
public school classroom time to be set aside for teaching of their pet hypotheses, then why should Forteans and fans of Velikovsky feel that they must refrain from ever attempting to lobby for "equal time" to have their ideas discussed in public school classrooms?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 07:40 PM
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2. What I'd like to know is where they were on...
11/22/63 and 9/11/01.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 08:49 PM
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3. "directionally free temporal transport technology"?
...they might have used directionally free temporal transport technology to enter Germany prior to October 1917 and compel the government of Germany to allow Lenin safe passage...


Time travel? Umm. Right. :eyes:
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:03 PM
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4. Well, it's now in the right forum to find believers.
Not a group that is known for their ability to distinguish shit from shinola.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 09:31 AM
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7. A little known fact is that
directionally free temporal transport technology was used to go forward in time to 1937 in order to cause the Hindenburg disaster as payback to Germany for not allowing Lenin safe passage.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 04:14 PM
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8. lol
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-05-09 09:29 PM
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9. Kick
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 04:34 PM
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10. Link to some ideas about time travel and ...
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