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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:39 PM
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Never-Before-Seen Footage of First Crash
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 04:45 PM by RedSock
A Rare View of 9/11, Overlooked
JAMES GLANZ, NYT

They did not even see the pale fleck of the airplane streak across the corner of the video camera's field of view at 8:46 a.m. But the camera, pointed at the twin towers from the passenger seat of an S.U.V. in Brooklyn near the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel, kept rolling when the plane disappeared for an instant and then a silent, billowing cloud of smoke and dust slowly emerged from the north tower, as if it had sprung a mysterious kind of leak. ... It was not until almost two weeks later that the worker, Pavel Hlava, even realized that he had captured the first plane on video. Even then, Mr. Hlava, who speaks almost no English, did not realize that he had some of the rarest footage collected of the World Trade Center disaster. His is the only videotape known to have recorded both planes on impact, and only the second image of any kind showing the first strike. ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/07/nyregion/07TAPE.html

Anyone know how you can save a copy of this from the website?

EDIT:
ABC is scheduled to show the tape for the first time on the program "This Week" at 9 a.m. today .
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:46 PM
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1. Unbelievable
I got chills watching it. Wow.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:49 PM
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2. I didn't realize the planes hit from different directions...
I thought they came from the same direction at different times.
Chilling video.
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Endimion Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:34 PM
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11. wtf?
LOL
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:56 PM
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3. if you are using Windows, here's how:
go to C;\windows\temporary internet files

look for a file called met_911_VIDEO_01_mainHI.swf

copy it, and paste into a folder of your choice :-)
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:05 AM
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10. Better still
Copy this link for a straight shot to the thing.

Now, someone make it an mpg....
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:57 PM
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4. Good luck getting a copy.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 05:02 PM by americanstranger
It's a flash movie that comes up when you choose which version you want to see. When you click, it calls another Flash movie, the name of which is not included in the source code for the page.

They've got that one pretty well protected, from the look of it.

(ON EDIT: Hey, Arcane - way to prove me wrong, buddy. The copy I've got doesn't seem to have any sound, tho. :))

-as
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 05:35 PM
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5. weird, mine didn't have sound live...
but the saved one does!

pm me if you want a copy, though I expect the actual vid is coming out eventually?
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Endimion Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:35 PM
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12. I have the swf
But I am waiting for the video. Kazaa will be probably late, as it is mostly used by kids for downloading Britney. lol
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 08:36 PM
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6. I give it a week
before this tape will provide the new latest and greatest smoking gun that supposedly proves some whacked out conspiracy theory is correct.
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 09:33 PM
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7. I was going to give you six hours
...before you would use this as a snide effort to bait all those evil conspiracy theorists you see out there in the woodwork. Guess I overestimated you.



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Endimion Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:39 PM
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13. You sure don't have some kind of a disease, do you?
Why are you starting? Now you'll say you wasn't the first.
Stop adding kerosene to the fire, LAR. There are enough flames without you.

You should at least wait for some theories to come. I probably won't develop any. My bother are the towers, and not planes.

This ought to be a clean topic, now you messed it. Now wash your hands and go to bed.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:07 PM
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15. I didn't know that making predictions
was a disease. Sorry if you think I dirtied this thread, but stating the obvious shouldn't elicit such an outburst. Now stand in the corner and count to ten before you post again.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:17 PM
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8. what is the object on the bottom of the plane in the final still?
Looks like another engine.

Chilling photos.
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plaguepuppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 01:49 AM
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9. Some interesting comments
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 01:50 AM by plaguepuppy
I don't agree with everything this guy says (for one I don't find it strange that the cameraman was shooting at random out of an SUV - they say it was his new camera), but the saga of the tape is the screwiest thing I've ever heard:

http://www.boottotheskull.com/mb/viewthread.php?tid=7685&page=1#pid87964
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Endimion Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:43 PM
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14. Wow, the plane had 3 engines!
Groovy baby!

:bounce:

I bet this load assimetry provided the plane even more speed to penetrate the building!!!!

Wow! Bang! Whooooosh!!!!!

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:


Assimetry, :yourock: !!!!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:53 PM
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16. 757's only have two engines
that is what the object looks like though.
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Endimion Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 03:43 AM
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17. well
these aircrafts were not 757's.
B767200ER - that's the name.

And, yes, I know very well that they have only 2 engines. I was only tending to be sarcastic. But if it doesn't help here at DU, then ok.

peace :)
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Chris R. Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 10:09 AM
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18. wow!
wow!
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