1/15 was an "inside job"!

[SDuderstadt]

I certainly hope that no one is buying the official government story that USAir flight # 1549 crashed because of a flock of geese. I mean, how coincidental is that? At the least it was LIHOP and, more likely MIHOP. In fact, I think all the footage of the crash scene has been faked and that there was, in fact, NO USAIR Flight 1549. Instead, what we saw was a hologram hitting the water AFTER thermite was used to bring down a missile that was headed for Ottawa. The passengers are obviously actors and the perps certainly planted a plane carcass just underneath the surface of the river, probably earlier in the year when the Hudson was temporarily "closed for repairs".

Remember where you heard it first. I predict that the Bush administration will use 1/15 as a pretext to 1) invade New Jersey after they have linked Jon Corzine to the crash 2) suspend the inauguration, declare "marshal law" and declare himself POTUS for life and 3) hire Blackwater/Halliburton and the Carlysle Group to "rebuild" the area. That is, after they put most of us in prison camps!

[Orrex]

1. The cover story is absurd on its face, with wide-reaching consequences

Implications to that effect have already been made here.

[madinmaryland]

15. Well there is one problem with his theory:

Bush would probably get lost on the NJ Turnpike and then get stuck at one of the brazilian toll plazas they have on the turnpike!

[Orrex]

24. I suspect that he'd wind up in Delaware

Do they have any good Italian restaurants in Delaware?

[madinmaryland]

25. It's call LynneSin's Olive Garden!

:hide:

[Orrex]

31. Two nice things about that place

Rich, Corinthian leather as far as the eye can see, and they don't even make you show your receipt upon exit.

[SidDithers]

2. Actually, there were 2 USAir 1549's...

and they took off 10 minutes apart.

Sid

[anigbrowl]

5. It's to prepare us for their next evil plot

Everyone knows accidents never, ever happen. For example, small lanes don't crash themselves. Well, there were those two seperate Cessna crashes in California last week, though they din't have anyone famous on board, but they were really just to soften us up for the idea that planes fall out of the sky at random.

[mrgerbik]

3. SD can I ask you something? nt

[greyl]

4. You just did, so there's your answer. nt

[mrgerbik]

6. very good...

:eyes:

but i wanted to ask SD how or when became such a blowhard. I like to come back to these forums once and awhile to see where conversations are going, and it never fails... SD's lame-as-a-wet-noodle 'attacks' are spattered all over (like a nasty case of the Hershey squirts). Seeing self righteousness indignation like this -- makes -- me -- want to --- TROLL!!

:shrug:

[SDuderstadt]

7. Maybe you should get a sense of humor....

n/t

[mrgerbik]

8. if this OP was

written with humor in mind, then I apologize . It just occurs to me that most of your posts seem to fall into a category, that, i dare say, don't seem funny (angry and unproductive maybe?). If it were the onion or some humor/blog writing this up, I would know their motive and probably have a good laugh.

[Redstone]

85. Get a fucking grip, would you? I bet you're a LOAD of fun at a trainwreck.

Redstone

[jberryhill]

9. No witnesses saw the plane land in the water....

Notice how all of the pictures are *after* the plane is in the water.

The plane was already in the water. It didn't land there.

[greyl]

35. It takes time to fake video. nt

[jberryhill]

10. Where was the defense system?

The plane was off course over NYC for several minutes, and no emergency response.

[WoodrowFan]

11. the geese

I heard the geese used to work for a company that had one of Bush's cousins on its board a couple years ago! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

[Subdivisions]

12. Although I intensely dislike you and your cohorts, and I will ALWAYS

believe that there is more to the 9/11 story than the OCT, I have to give you props. As big a pain in the ass as you are, sometimes we have to put aside our differences. poke fun at ourselves, and have a good laugh and feel good together when something great, like Flight 1549 and Sully's professionalism and talent, happens.

For once, and probably for all, thank you for the humor.

[SDuderstadt]

13. Did it ever occur to you that we're...

right and you might just be wrong? Any large-scale catastrophic event will contain anomalies and information that cannot be easily known. I'm not opposed to an investigation of 9/11 but, with respect to MIHOP and/or LIHOP, "there's no there, there".

[anigbrowl]

14. This is how I feel

To my mind the the issue is one of gross incompetence (and possible subsequent efforts to cover that up) than of deliberate plotting. Many of the theories floated about 9/11 are so bizarre (no planes, or weapons operating outside the known laws of physics) that they undermine the very real case for investigating institutional and administrative failures.

[SDuderstadt]

16. Exactly...

very well said.

[greyl]

17. I'd only change that to "*definite* subsequent efforts to cover that up" nt

[mrgerbik]

41. nothing is impossible

only improbable. I think people (whoever that means) need to realize that truth is a helluva lot stranger then fiction, and as soon as you can emotionally break that barrier, you will always be stuck in the 'deny first and ask questions later' mindset. (and yes i know 911 has nothing to do with being open to other possibilities)

[Rabrrrrrr]

18. Those were actually the passengers from flight #93, finally released after years of brainwashing

and the plane was flown remotely from the White House.

All those passengers only think they are who they are, but in reality, they are not.

And all those ferry captains and passengers who helped? NSA and CIA agents, who are all in on the conspiracy, who were really there to quietly question each "passenger" and make sure that their brainwashing still held, with the command to "accidentally" fail to rescue anyone whose real memory came back.


And then later, I hear that the black box was cut out of the airplane with that same military heat laser thing that was used to cut down the World Trade Center towers.

[jberryhill]

28. Good point

They had to find a way to release those passengers just before the Inauguration.

The timing is the dead giveaway here.

[SDuderstadt]

29. I wonder if the Flight 93 passengers....

were kept in suspended animation during these last 7 1/2 years...why hasn't this info been released?

[jberryhill]

30. That's why many of them had hypothermia

They weren't completely thawed out before the submarine/plane was released to float up from beneath the surface of the Hudson.

Look at how obvious this is:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6662703&page=1

The rescue began when Capt. Vince Lombardi of a New York Waterway ferry noticed something odd in the water.


"I turned to my deckhand, and I said, that's an odd-looking boat. He said, 'I think that's an airplane,'" Lombardi said.

Moments later, Lombardi nosed his ferry close to the plane.



Vince Lombardi has been dead for years.

But notice - he didn't see the plane land. It just "appeared" in the water.

And with no engines...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/16/national/main4726683.shtml?source=mostpop_story

(CBS/AP) Federal investigators say both engines on the US Airways jetliner that made an emergency landing in the Hudson River are missing.

[SDuderstadt]

34. How do we know that Vince Lombardi died?

That's just the "official story"?

[JackRiddler]

19. Is this your challenge to Kenny Banya on Seinfeld?

Sorry, he's funnier.

[SDuderstadt]

21. No one cares, JR...n/t

[JackRiddler]

22. About a circle jerk? True.

[SDuderstadt]

23. No, about your opinion,,,

except for your fellow CT's.

[JackRiddler]

26. Zing! I stand in awe.

You killed, Banya. You killed, I tell you!

[SDuderstadt]

33. This is umintentional irony, right, JR?

I mean, is there a bigger circle jerk anywhere than the "truth movement"?

[Ghost in the Machine]

27. Projecting again?

At least we know the squirrels & pigeons are safe as long as you're babbling incoherently on here instead of on a park bench...

[pauldp]

32. now THAT's funny.

:rofl:

[seemslikeadream]

51. True that

:rofl:

[chrisa]

20. Two predator drones got sucked into the engine.

and a bouncing missile.

[greyl]

36. There's no way amateur passengers could have gotten out of the plane in under 30 secs.

Watch the video.
It's obvious to anyone with a brain this was a setup to give Bush a good "Go USA!" send-off.
Never in history has a plane been ditched in the Hudson river the same day a president was to give his farewell address.

[William Seger]

37. "A passenger told Reuters ..."

".... there was what sounded like an explosion a few minutes after takeoff."

Exploding geese? How does a fatty goose with downy feathers destroy a jet engine with parts made out of titanium? Those engines produce a hundred thousand pounds of thrust; how does a 10 pound goose bring it down? Were the laws of physics suspended in Manhattan on 1/15?

"The engine blew. There was fire everywhere and it smelled like gas," Jeff Kolodjay, from Norwalk, Connecticut, told Reuters on a midtown Manhattan quay. "People were bleeding all over. We hit the water pretty hard. It was scary."

People were "bleeding all over" before the plane hit the water?

I'm just asking questions.

[JackRiddler]

38. See, now this is better...

Actual sense of set-up, timing, punch lines. Not ROFL quite, but potential to cause laughs, that's all we can demand. Not embarrassed for you to read it. Several brain cells involved.

[SDuderstadt]

39. Which is far better than your CT stuff....n/t

[JackRiddler]

40. A touch, a touch, I fear I breathe my last!

[LARED]

43. Excellent questions

demanding a full and independent investigation.

[seemslikeadream]

42. THIS IS NO JOKE

[LARED]

44. Does this mean you thnk 1/15 was indeed an inside job? nt

[Name removed]

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[William Seger]

48. Yeah, too bad he couldn't find a gigantic irrelevant graphic to paste N/T

[Name removed]

49. Deleted message

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[LARED]

50. So please explain how this image is relevant?

[seemslikeadream]

52. Shall I start with the extremely obvious?

Making a joke out of a plane crash, for starters. Would he have started the same thread if they all had died? Kinda would put someone in the same league with bush.

[LARED]

56. And the image is related to your response

in what obvious way?

[Bolo Boffin]

57. But they didn't die. No one died.

Hard up for hissy fit material, I see.

[seemslikeadream]

61. which is the usual for you bolo

can't anyone else have a turn

[Bolo Boffin]

63. Tell you want. Post a hissy fit of mine and I'll post five of yours

and we'll see who runs out of material first.

[William Seger]

58. Yes, please do start with something extremely obvious. I can wait

Let's see: A) Nobody died; B) That pic doesn't look much like Bush; C) it wouldn't make much sense even if it did (Cheney would have been a better fit; D) even if it looked Cheney, it wouldn't be relevant to the thread unless you possibly think Cheney was remote-controlling those geese.

The only relevance I can see is that the OP was making fun of how conspiracy theorists think.

[seemslikeadream]

59. No I see it as making a joke of the passengers

[LARED]

60. Now I am really "confused"

Your image is making fun of the passangers?

I don't get it?

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

[seemslikeadream]

62. The OP deary, the OP.

[SDuderstadt]

65. Oh, Jesus, Slad....

how in the world is it making fun of the passengers????

[Realityhack]

91. Same way saying that the passengers on the 9-11 flights didn't call home...

only they actually did die.

Never mind. It isn't making fun of the passengers. But the truth movement has some issues they need to project.

[SDuderstadt]

66. Oh, Jesus, Slad....

how in the world is it making fun of the passengers????

[William Seger]

46. (Oops, replied to wrong post. N/T)

[William Seger]

47. No, SLaD, that's not a joke. It's a fantasy movie

... but the way the Joker kept pulling off one highly implausible dirty deed after another -- apparently having limitless resources and access and a (literally) incredible knack for having complicated plots go exactly as planned -- got to be kind of a joke. A little more plausibility would have improved that movie immensely, IMHO. Ditto 9/11 conspiracy theories.

[seemslikeadream]

53. Tell it to Vanity Fair and Drew Friedman

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/07/bush-as-joker.html

[William Seger]

55. Why should I tell them? Did they force you to copy-n-paste it? N/T

[seemslikeadream]

54. What a piss ass OP about an event that could have had such a tragic ending

[SidDithers]

64. But didn't...nt

Sid

[SDuderstadt]

67. Oh, grow up, Slad...

I know that's a tall order....

[mojotwenty]

68. Govt did not lie to us on 9/11

[whatchamacallit]

69. Dumbest post ever.

Too bad Fox's 1/2 Hour News Hour got canceled, you could be their head writer.

[SDuderstadt]

70. I knew that "truthers" have....

zero sense of humor....

[LARED]

71. Frankly I think they have a humor deficient.

They seem to be a pretty miserable lot most of the time.

[SDuderstadt]

72. I think you mean a "humor deficit" or that they are....

"humor deficient"...either way, I agree.

[whatchamacallit]

73. I've got a funny bone

but your shit is lame. Sorry fail.

[SDuderstadt]

74. Define irony: A "truther".....

claiming someone else's stuff is "lame".

[whatchamacallit]

75. Don't quit your day job

unless this is it...

[SDuderstadt]

76. How's the "trtuh movement" doing?

Oh, wait...President Obama apparently believes the OCT.

[whatchamacallit]

80. The OCT desperately want to plant their flag in Obama (as if that somehow ends the debate)

Of course you had to use the word "apparently" because neither of us really knows what he actually believes. BTW, I know it's big fun to tar all who don't swallow the official fish tale (hook, line, and sinker) as part of "the truth movement", but I honestly don't belong to any movement of any kind. Just because I'm not buying what they're selling, doesn't mean you're justified in lumping me in with whatever band of miscreants you concoct.

[SDuderstadt]

82. Please define the "OCT"....

then convince me that the hundreds or thousands of sources it is drawn from are trying to "sell" something. Face it, the "truth movement" has been dealt a death blow now that Bush has left office and President Obama has made repeated references to the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11. I somehow doubt that he believes in Directed Energy Beams or that the towers were brought down by "controlled demolition" or other "truther" nonsense.

[whatchamacallit]

87. Well if all that is true, I guess your work here is done.

You guys can pack it in, no need to hang around this stinking hole now that you've been vindicated beyond all doubt.

Bye bye...

[greyl]

88. You calling DU a stinking hole?

Why aren't you guys more cheerful lately?

[whatchamacallit]

89. Nice try greyl, I was obviously referring to the dungeon

I see a pattern here with you guys lately, a rather simplistic effort to portray CTers en mass as dismayed that Obama won't champion their cause. Of course that concept is a figment of your stilted imaginations. I can't speak for others, but I believe the truth will come from the bottom up, not the top down. Like the recent NSA whistle blower who waited until Bush officially left office before spilling the beans. Only time will tell if similar revelations will emerge regarding government complicity in 911...

[greyl]

90. I was Just Asking Questions.

Thanks for the clarification, but you might benefit from realizing that this forum is at the DU. Your speculation about my motive to portray CTers as dismayed that Obama isn't on their side is incorrect. It's more like they aren't on his side, I think.

[LARED]

81. Yes deficit, but either works nt

[MrMickeysMom]

77. tdatsreduDS is an inside job!

[SDuderstadt]

78. Gosh...you "truthers" are so clever....

I'm sure with some time I'll come up with a clever comeback....

[MrMickeysMom]

79. .......

.... Naaahhhhhh!

[seemslikeadream]

83. Well that will be an amazing feat for you

Take all the time you need

[Redstone]

84. Christ Almighty, that was funny! Thank you. And, I'm astonished (though I shouldn't be

at the number of respondents who wither don't get it or take it personally or find a way to work it into their own conspiracy-filled obessions.

Redstone

[SDuderstadt]

86. If you were a "truther"....

you probably wouldn't have a sense of humor either, what with most of of the world laughing at you behind your back. I feel sorry for them, but screw'em if they can't take a joke.

[LARED]

92. Proof there was no inside job

[nickw]

93. New Jersey

Anyone really think it is a coincidence that New Jersey has all that oil processing capacity?