AIPAC spy case dismissed; treason officially legal in US when it involves Israel

[KoKo]

AIPAC spy case dismissed; treason officially legal in US when it involves Israel

http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_news:a49...
The APAC spy case is dropped while the media terrorizes the public with swine flu hysteria

Here are a sample of what Americans think about federal procescuters dismissing espionage-related charges against two former pro-Israel lobbyists accused of disclosing classified U.S. defense information:

sloan.king - "WTF!"

pbm517 - "Israel is a PARASITE on the American taxpayer. We have given them OVER 10 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY since 1948 with no end in sight. We pay for hospitals, libraries , schools etc...in Israel while closing them in America (due to lack of funding). Israel has passed American military secrets (which were stolen) to communist China. It's time to tell our elected officials to put Americas interests before Israels."


JN - "Not surprising. We give Israel billions of dollars in economic and military aide every year, we give them all our best weapons, we shield them from criticism by the international community when it comes to their treatment of the Palestinians, we have dual American-Israeli citizens in political office (like Rahm Emanuel), we invaded and died in Iraq largely for Israel's own protection...so its not surprising we let them steal military secrets and get away with it. Just another example of how this country is RUN by the Israeli lobby. "

RichardF - "These Isreali spies were let off because a democratic member of congress was caught in a pay-for-play scandal on NSA wiretaps. "Rep. Jane Harman talked by phone with a person identified as an "Israeli intelligence agent," and promised to intervene with Nancy Pelosi on behalf of two people arrested in connection with an alleged collaboration between USG personnel and a Israeli government representative." Of course Rep. Harman will escape justice and the rule of law suffers another crushing defeat. "

[hack89]

1. You need to look up treason as it is defined in America.

and you do realize that they were not actually charged with spying, don't you?

[go west young man]

2. Wiki seems to disagree with you.

Treason is defined as: 1 : the betrayal of a trust : treachery
2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family
or trea·son (trē′zən)

noun
betrayal of trust or faith; treachery
violation of the allegiance owed to one's sovereign or state; betrayal of one's country, specif., in the U.S. (as declared in the Constitution), consisting only in levying war against the U.S. or in giving aid and comfort to its enemies


On August 4, a federal grand jury indicted Franklin on five charges of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 <2>:

One count of conspiracy to communicate national defense information to people not entitled to receive it. (18 USC 793 (d), (e) and (g))
Three counts of communicating national defense information to people not entitled to receive it. (18 USC 793)
One count of conspiring to communicate national defense information to an agent of a foreign government. (50 US 783, 18 USC 731)
Rosen was further charged with one count each of the first two, and Weissman with one count of the first charge.

The indictment revealed that the investigation had been going on since 1999, and suggested that other individuals at AIPAC, the Defense Department and the Israeli embassy had been involved as well. The indictment also alleged that Kenneth Pollack, a National Security Council staffer during the Clinton administration, provided information to Rosen and Weissman.<10>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC_espionage_scandal

They were essentially charged with espionage. Semantics. Spying, espionage imply the same thing. They were passing on state secrets. Whether Israel is an ally or a liability is a matter of debate. Personally I see them more as a liability than an asset. The U.S. is hurting itself by propping them up. We would be better off letting them be.

[hack89]

3. America has a much more restricted definition

To avoid the abuses of the English law (including executions by Henry VIII of those who criticized his repeated marriages), treason was specifically defined in the United States Constitution, the only crime so defined. Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason#United_States


Treason is a much used word but no one seems to know what it really means.

[Jim Sagle]

4. This piece of shit thread isn't really about 9-11.

DU needs a new folder for bilge like this, say a "Stormfront" thread.