September Clues

[Why Syzygy]

I don't have a theory of my own. I agree with Jesse Ventura, questions are valid.
ALL of the 'eyewitnesses' were affiliated with MSM?
ALL of the 'amateur' videos were recorded by professional digital artists?


http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FAFFDE39F342242C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL

On 9/11, the US TV networks used computer generated sceneries of Manhattan. Multiple techniques of image manipulation were employed to simulate "airplanes crashing into the World Trade Center". We now have conclusive evidence that the TV networks were proactively complicit in staging this false-flag operation needed to gather public consensus to wage immensely profitable, illegal wars.

The forensic analysis of the live images leave no room for doubt : they do not depict authentic imagery nor real airplane crashes but turn out to be entirely doctored video sequences which effectively fooled the worldwide TV audience. Thus, the live broadcasts now stored in the major TV networks' archives, constitute the most solid, verifiable and repeatable proof to expose the falseness of the official version of the 9/11 tragedy.

The subsequently released, so-called "amateur" videos were more sophisticated video composites yet all have now been exposed for what they are : total forgeries. Most likely, electromagnetic technology (commonly used in war zones (to jam electronic circuitries) prevented any private footage being recorded at the time of the tower strikes. Scores of testimonies confirm that cellphones or firefighters' walkie-talkies did not function properly in NYC that day.

Most on-the-scene witnesses reported a SMALL aircraft of some sort : Arguably, what they saw was a winged missile. The 4 purported hijacked flights, as well as the related passenger lists, turn out to have several problems as far as their authenticity is concerned : a long list of documentation (or lack of it) reveal serious discrepancies regarding NTSB, BTS and FAA data. All of the above facts, taken together, suggest that none of the official descriptions of the events are credible.

[Realityhack]

1. That isn't a question or set of questions it is a theory. Wither yours or someone else's....

And a goofy one supported by BS that has been debunked a hundred times at that.

[Why Syzygy]

6. Show me the debunk.

How can I believe you if you offer no proof of what you say?

[Realityhack]

24. I notice you have dropped all pretense of not having a theory.

Now go do some reading. September clues has been debunked several dozen times here. If you actually wanted to know what was wrong with it you could find out easily enough.

[Why Syzygy]

28. I have no theory of my own

as honestly stated in OP. The vids give one. I've seen others.

I tend not to believe people who are not interested in presenting any FACTS to back up their snark.

[BeFree]

2. No support here

Videos could have been faked, but some of the videos I've seen have been verified. Altho I have never talked with anyone WHO WAS ACTUALLY THERE.

Check out this image below. Does it look familiar?

[Theobald]

5. No it doesn't look familiar.

What is it?

[Why Syzygy]

7. Next time you see the most famous

where the left wing of the plane literally disappears into the building, good luck on believing it.
Physical matter doesn't DO that.

[achtung_circus]

3. Humm

Scores of testimonies confirm that cellphones or firefighters' walkie-talkies did not function properly in NYC that day.

You need to look into this one a lot further. Find out why they didn't work, find out everyone else's (including NYPD) did.

Among other things...

[Why Syzygy]

8. Good point.

It may have been restricted to just the area around the buildings. I do seem to remember hearing radio chatter from that day...
In the series, one officer describes visiting a photo shop to pick up all the film...

[Theobald]

4. Bullshit!

How the fuck do you come up with this utter crap?

Syzygy "ALL of the 'eyewitnesses' were affiliated with MSM?"

What kind of question is that? 10,000's of thousands of people saw the second plane hit the tower including my brother in law who worked at the world trade center and my aunt who worked in Brooklyn and saw it live with dozens of her co-workers from the roof of her building. This utter nonsense that you spout makes my blood boil. How could you be so ignorant? How could you be so fucking naive?

Syzygy "Most on-the-scene witnesses reported a SMALL aircraft of some sort:"

This is an outright, indefensible lie. Most on the scene witnesses did not report a small aircraft of some sort. We have airline pilots who were circling NYC waiting to land that the the fucking jumbo jet hit the fucking building. We have tens of thousands of people who saw it live and in person. Your proffering of this argument is totally ludicrous and not based upon a shred of sane evidence.

[Why Syzygy]

9. Way to NOT read!

Most of the text portion of the OP is copied from the youtube posting. Not MY words. :freak:

Show me! Give me something besides your emotionality to go on. Your emotions prove nothing!

[Theobald]

25. Way to not understand what you yourself posted

Why Syzygy
"I don't have a theory of my own. I agree with Jesse Ventura, questions are valid.
ALL of the 'eyewitnesses' were affiliated with MSM?"


You posted your 'valid' questions. The questions are not valid and the fact that you are contemplating them is stupid. All of the eyewitnesses were not affiliated with the mainstream media. There were tens of thousands of eyewitnesses in a confined location; lower Manhattan, Long Island, New Jersey, the water around those points, and the airspace above those points. It is impossible for all of those people to be affiliated with the mainstream media, therefor your question has been answered in a negative.

"ALL of the 'amateur' videos were recorded by professional digital artists?"

What evidence do you have that the amateur video's were taken by professionals? Do you have any evidence that even one of the amateur videos was taken by a professional digital artist. If not than you don't even have a starting point for your question, let alone and ability to reach a conclusion.

[Why Syzygy]

29. You need to

watch the videos for the documentation of the "eyewitnesses" and amateur video. Every single eyewitness that was broadcast on television that morning was connected with MSM. See for yourself!

[balantz]

10. September Clues will get shit on here in this dungeon

and at many places on the web, including websites for the fake truth movement (perpetrator controlled and financed).

Simon Shack's work is where it's at. T.V. Fakery, controlled Manhattan environment, complete media involvement with faked witnesses, layered digital landscapes for T.V. which hid the real demolition, the so-called "amateur" videos created by the perpetrators, the whole nine yards researched in S. Clues is the real truth and it has not been proven bunk by any means. Some have attempted to focus on a few details and say they have found flaws in Shack's research, but really they haven't. He uses the media record with no alterations.

Watch some jump in here now and curse Shack's work.

I encourage everyone to watch S.Clues.

Shack discusses his work at the following forums under the name "socialservice" with real truthers and a passing side-show of shills too: http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?act=idx

[hack89]

11. I love the "fake truth movement" comment

you guys are finally catching on. As an economy measure, most of us Bushbots have two user names here - one for defending the OCT and the other as a 911 truther. Only a couple of really smart truthers like you are able to figure it out - well done!

[snooper2]

19. "perpetrator controlled and financed"

The Man's keeping the truth down!

Real Truthers Unite!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Why Syzygy]

30. Thank you.

Televised false foregrounds and backgrounds, walking bridges, disappearing "wings" ...

I'm open to debunk, but so far none of the protesters have offered any.

[CJCRANE]

12. Fascinating.

I don't know if the conclusions from this documentary are correct...but it wouldn't surprise me.

On edit: I always wondered why the moment of impact was edited out of the private video released in 2006...

[defendandprotect]

13. Agree . . .

and all those who understand the media complicity are going to have to recognize

media complicity in elections steals going back to the beginning of the use of

large computers by media -- mid-1960's. The electronic computers used for voting

came in about late 1960's . . . coincidentally about the time America was passing

The Voting Rights Act!

[hack89]

14. Every single video image filmed on 911 was faked?

you really believe that? Every single one?

[defendandprotect]

15. Who said "every single one" . . . presume the anchors are real . . .

and interviews were real -- of course some of the info in the interviews were lies.

So whatd "video" are you talking about?

If there was "no plane" at the WTC . . . then the views of planes were faked.

Not all of the views because evidently they would have filmed a real plane coming into

the area and again arriving from another direction.

Presume the explosions were real -- though doctored to provide for the "planes."


Also, the next time you're watching the Zapruder film think about how doctored/faked

that is. If you haven't caught up with that see Jim Fetzer's book on that ... it's

a few years old. You can also go to his website and get info on it.

[SDuderstadt]

16. "truther backwards Logic"

"There weren't any planes, so all the video of planes must have been faked".

[snooper2]

20. I bet you are a blast at Thanksgiving!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[defendandprotect]

21. The people I have Thanksgiving with aren't idiots ......

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

they wouldn't be stupid enough to believe that the Russians could send 19 hijackers

in to simultaneously hijack 4 planes and run them around for more than an hour

while NORAD stood down.

That the Russians just happened to pick the exact day that Cheney/Pentagon

were running four simultaneous programs based on simulating . . . .

HIJACKED PLANES BEING RUN INTO SKYSCRAPERS!

And that the Russians managed to get a 44 foot high airplane thru a 20X15 foot hole!

Fortunately, the Pentagon had no security/anti-missile system -- ???!!!!

Though the night before in Florida, they made sure that there were anti-missile

systems on top of the rooftop of the hotel where Bush stayed-!!

Aw, shucks . . . Pentagon probably just didn't think of that.



:nuke:


Oh . . . it wasn't the "Russians" but a Saudi Arabian connected to Bush and the CIA

from a cave with a computer -- !!!



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[hack89]

17. So the plot and cover up now encompasses thousands

and not a single person has said anything? Got it.

So there is actual evidence that jammed private video recorders? Thousand of people had their recorders failed and no one said anything? You do know that there is no know technology that jams cam corders? How can there be - there is no signal to jam.

And you do know that police and helicopter radios worked perfectly?

[CJCRANE]

18. Are there any private video recorders that show the moment of impact? nt

[hack89]

22. I don't know

I don't automatically assume "not on the internet means doesn't exist."

We do know that there are no videos of the explosion without planes.

We also know that the technology that the OP conjured up to explain how all the private video recorders were jammed is typical of the pseudo-science gimmicks that truthers typically fall back on to make their CTs "work".

[Theobald]

26. Yes. n/t

[Realityhack]

23. "Scores of testimonies confirm that cellphones... did not function properly in NYC that day."

Imagine that. I am socked I tell ya... SHOCKED!!!

[Marksbrother]

27. Impossible to debunk total forgeries.

The video composites are so obvious, it's a wonder that so many people were initially fooled by them (myself included). When you take into account that electromagnetic technology was used to prevent private footage being recorded at the time of the
tower explosions, it's also no wonder why there aren't any authentic videos taken by any of the hundreds or thousands of people
who were near the WTC.

You only have to watch one of them for a few seconds to realize something is wrong. It was sunny and clear in NYC on that morning,
yet the videos are all shown against very strangely colored backgrounds.

Arlen Specter gave us the so-called magic bullet theory (which, btw, he maintained was merely "possible"), and for 9/11
we have the "magic planes theory".

Thanks for refreshing my memory of the too-little-discussed 9/11 video forgeries. I encourage all open-minded DUers to
view some of them, whether you've seen them before and especially if you haven't.