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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 07:55 AM
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The incredibly fake "Harley shirt" witness
"...come out of nowhere and just ream right into the side of the twin tower, exploding through the other side...and then I witnessed both towers collapse, one first then the second. Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense."

See the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GA4vc6XKHs

More here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeOjdtzwCS4&feature=related

Clearly this guy is reading from a script, as his delivery is amazingly unnatural and PR-spokesman-like.

So, the questions are:

1) why was an actor reading a script about planes hitting the tower and the towers undergoing structural collapse due to the heat of the fires?

2) is this a professional actor*?

3) what does he mean by "mostly" in "Mostly due to structural failure"?


* Some claim it is Mark Humphrey--
http://911-harley-shirt-guy.blogspot.com/2009/05/mark-adrian-humphrey-actor-is-harley.html

Others (including Humphrey) say it is not--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJKvXQXjwos&feature=related

They do look alike, and Humphrey has that suspicious line in one of his parts:
"I'm the one that came up with the plan to go undercover as a phony witness so that I could get rid of the real witnesses."

But the key point for now is the idea that an actor was used.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 08:19 AM
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1. Interesting...nt
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:36 AM
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2. "Clearly this guy is reading from a script"
Where's the "script", Spooked? Is he reading from a teleprompter?
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Marksbrother Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 09:54 AM
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3. It sure does come across like it was scripted

No question about it.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 05:03 PM
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19. It was likely not the first time he'd told the story. nt
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:21 AM
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4. It only looks like someone who thought about what he was going to say on the air
because it was an important event. There's no evidence of a script being written out.

There is no evidence that this is an actor. You require it to be an actor to satisfy your own already-made conclusion. Until you produce an actual identity, until you produce a paycheck or the actual script, all you have is conjecture about this person.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:22 AM
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8. And during a city-wide crisis those type of people are so easy to find
Hell, even the people in charge were scatter-brained, talking in incomplete sentences, searching for the right words, the right phrases to say.

Yet this "man in the street" steps up to the microphone and neatly condenses the yet unarticulated official theory in a nice, right-sized sound bite.

I guess we'll just have to chalk it up to one of the 1,000,000 coincidences that occurred on that day.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 10:58 AM
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5. Nice government (dis)infomercial
Who talks like that? There's salesman written all over this clown.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:02 AM
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6. People talk like that.
New York has a few salesmen in it. Until you produce actual evidence, conjecture is all that you've got here.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:15 AM
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7. That unsolicited, "off the cuff", preview of the NIST/OCT cover story was awesome!
Thanks Mr. Harley shirt!
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 07:55 AM
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22. On what planet?
:shrug:
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:25 AM
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9. You're just sore because...
he didn't say it was a controlled demolition with mini-nukes.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:30 AM
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10. Clowns of a feather... (n/t)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:05 PM
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11. Could be. ..but I thought most of these people were traced to network personnel . . .???
Unless it happened to be an actor who had strong right-wing political connections,
I think Bushco using an "actor" would be a bit weird.

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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:56 PM
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12. "Bushco" was merely involved in the crime n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:15 PM
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14. Of course . . . MIHOP . . .
don't understand your reply...???
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:22 PM
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15. Just saying that Bushco didn't do the job by themselves.
Bushco works for the corporate powers that run things.

As for the witnesses they were all selected before-hand.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 02:03 PM
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18. Of course not . . .
are you crazy?

In fact, WTC demolition looks like military work -- Blackwater or KBR --

Yes . . . I understand about the witnesses, but I am saying they would likely be

rabid neo-cons . . . I don't see any old actor just signing up or being asked to

sign up. Had to have been prior connections.

Same with "passengers" on planes --
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 12:59 PM
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13. Nearly all the media "witnesses" were staged.
In the following video a real witness gets in front of the camera and delays the appearance of a media-staged witness who has to double back and come back to the camera setup with Leventhal.

Interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAJq1ejs2mQ&feature=channel_page
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:25 PM
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16. Thanks for bringing attention to this additional "no plane" witness who is ignored--!!!
Edited on Mon Jun-01-09 01:26 PM by defendandprotect
He makes clear that there was only an "explosion" --

And, here's a very interesting comment by someone posting on that website . . .

and something that I knew about but it didn't come to mind cause I never worked

in the building.

horror11 (2 months ago)

btw there was not a single elevator going from top to bottom.
all elevator shafts ended at the sky lobbys so there could never ran fuel down the shafts from the impactfloors to the basement cause the fuel had to change the elevators 2 times because there was 2 skylobbys in between the impact and the basement :)
its all big bullshit



Rather, as the video makes clear, this points to them trying to suggest the immediate damage
the firemen saw in the Lobby on arrival was due to fire from the 98th floor rather than the
real cause . . . EXPOLOSIONS IN THE BASEMENT
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 01:26 PM
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24. Just playing Devil's advocate, here....
...But that unplanned witness could very well have seen his version of the story from the opposite side of the tower from which the second plane came. I believe at least one of the engines and other debris penetrated the building and "exploded" out the other side.

It may also be possible that the building itself provided a sonic shadow, masking the sound of the approach of the plane, but not the resulting explosion on the far side of the building.

Still, that's a classic example of Fox bullshit that I will forever treasure. Lord below, do I dislike that "news" source.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 01:48 PM
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25. What's your take on how the one blue-shirt witness looks staged as he turns back
and approaches again after Leventhal is interrupted by the witness who saw no plane?
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ryan_cats Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 06:36 PM
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27. At least two elevators went from bottom to top in both buildings
1) The freight elevator.
2) Windows on the World Elevator
3) Observation deck elevator.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:31 AM
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20. It's funny how the interviewer looks annoyed
with the eye witness, doesn't ask him any questions and looks around for the other guy!

Then the interviewer says something about "we were told...on TV", but he's right there at the scene!

(Why rely on the TV when you can just ask the people who are there?).
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victordrazen Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-22-09 11:56 PM
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32. Leventhal doesn't know what to do
he looks around as if to say "help me", where is one of my preplanned witnesses.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 01:25 PM
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17. How the 9/11 myth was sold...
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:15 PM
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26. It sure looks like the same actor to me. n/t
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:08 PM
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21. Here Rick Leventhal interviews another exceptional actor (cough).
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:13 PM
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31. Hadn't seen that one before . . .. !!! Thanks -- and . . .
I was just commenting upthread that I was watching a video someone put up
recently re JFK assassination -- "Evidence of Revision" -- and you see the
same leading/framing going on prior to the assassination at the Ft. Worth
Chamber of Commerce and elsewhere!!!

Talk about prior "long nuts" etc -- really sticks out now like sore thumb!

Thanks to all who have worked to get this info to us and to wake us up to it!!!

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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:43 PM
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23. The Harley Shirt Witness gets plenty of attention & discussion at the follwing forums:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:31 AM
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28. To think that this guy isn't reading a script either:
takes a lot of imagination or a profound lack of observational skill.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:52 AM
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29. Kick
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:09 PM
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30. That was a very enlightening find . . . by researchers . . . Congratulations to them all !!!
And, someone had put up a film recently called "Evidence of Revision" which
I've only begun to watch where you see this same kind of set up/framing being
done re the assassination of JFK --

Quite a bit of it in fact!!!

Thanks to whomever put that video up -- still working on it!

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IScreamSundays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 09:36 PM
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33. kick
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deconstruct911 Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:35 PM
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34. I can't believe we STILL don"t know who this guy is
I just want to know who he is.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:44 PM
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35. It's...
Bill Frilbey.
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deconstruct911 Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:50 PM
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36. Friend of yours?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 08:57 PM
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37. No...
it's your brother-in-law.

I made it up. Duh.

You guys take yourselves way too seriously, which is ironic, because hardly anyone else does.
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IScreamSundays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:20 AM
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38. lol nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:11 AM
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39. Kicky -- continues to be an interesting look at who and how 9/11 was pulled off --
Edited on Sat Aug-28-10 12:11 AM by defendandprotect
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:24 AM
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40. if by interesting
you mean really silly then I agree!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 11:44 PM
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41. It is interesting that the usual denial gang has no credible answer to this issue
other than to make corny one-liners.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-10 11:48 PM
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42. Because it is so stupid...
Explain how only certain witnesses would have been interviewed. How would the "perps" have controlled that?
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:25 PM
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43. K /nt
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