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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 01:25 PM
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Actual News Footage Of Wtc On 9/11/01 - WHERE is the Empire State Building???
Thanks to another website for resurrecting this video --

And while you're watching it, keep in mind last week's FOX News deception with the
teabagger's get together and Jon Stewart unmasking that hoax --

TV is NEVER really live anymore which leaves a lot of room for mischief --



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OMG!!! You have to watch this! I just came across this video. At 4:25 they show the towers with a GIANT Empire State Bldg to the right and then it quickly jumps to commercial. I haven't even watched the rest of the video yet but had to post this here.

http://www.archive.org/details/television_...ive_911_Summary




Other comments . . .


It actually starts at 3:00 on the tape and you see the ESB until 3:31 ---
then a break and then back with the Empire State Building for another 3 or 4 seconds!!


and ...

I just watched this full video again......at 13:25 the Fox News guy announces that "one of the 110 story towers has just fallen" (the vid shows it still standing); then, at 13:47 he says, "it may not have happened".

At 14:47 on NBC they open up with a shot of the ESB leaning to the right and LOOMING in the foreground........then they "re-rack" the tape "making sure we have the right tape".......and the ESB has totally disappeared!

I'm sure most of you have seen this before but I just noticed it this time.

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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 01:28 PM
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1. Link doesn't work
Then again, it's TV fakery nuttery, so I really shouldn't get involved. I'll leave that to the mental health professionals :eyes:
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:19 PM
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2. You have got to be f***ing kidding me
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 09:23 PM by KDLarsen
http://www.archive.org/details/television_archive_911_Summary

Seriously.

It's called a f***ing perspective.

How far f***ing out do you have to be to consider something like that TV fakery?

ETA: And Jesus F. Christ, whoever spouted that gaggle about Fox News being early, seriously needs to have his or her glasses checked.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:16 PM
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3. Oh yeah?

'Splain this, smarty pants....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S6tJpUxvOU
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:24 PM
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4. Incidently..
I once heard an explanation of how that illusion was done, but I never got around to see if it matched up with the video. Now I can ;)
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:47 PM
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5. It was a warm up for 9/11

That illusion was a trial run!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 02:44 AM
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24. Practice makes perfect . . . !!!
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 02:45 AM by defendandprotect
Someone mentioned the repairs done to ... I think it was the North tower/? involved

in '93 . . . at any rate, when the towers went down they registered as earthquake levels.

But the North tower a stronger impact than the South tower.

Someone suggested that could have been because when they repaired the North Tower from

the '93 incident, they made it stronger.

But undoubtedly '93 was a trial run --

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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 09:07 PM
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6. link?
The item you have requested had an error:
Item cannot be found.
which prevents us from displaying this page.

If you would like to report this problem as an error report, you may do so here.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 06:13 PM
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7. Tried to fix it -- but can't ....
At some point I'll try to report the video again -- but can't do it now.

I'm also having a problem with YouTube videos -- don't know why but it happens

regularly. My son fixes it -- and it's fine for months and then something happens again????

Sorry -- I will try to get back to it sometime soon.

It's a good video.

Maybe someone else can track it -- ?

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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 06:36 PM
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8. A working link was posted upthread...
... see post #2.
 
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 06:45 AM
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11. Sorry - the poster is on IGNORE
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 02:25 AM
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21. Same for me . . . the poster is on IGNORE . . . however . . .
I'm still at the moment unable to watch anything at YouTube -- still trying

to work on that problem . . . and I have a new one where I'm now essentially blocked

from searches by a Google form which continues redirect my searches!!

But I will try to get some help in securing this video because it is really startling!!

Meanwhile, my apologies --


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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 07:08 PM
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9. Simon Shack has put together a comprehensive explanation...

on how the perps used video fakery to fool the public about 9/11. It's a devastating indictment and his video illustrations
are clear and very, very convincing. To deal with it, TCs can only resort to attacking him personally, jumping up and down, and
trying to divert attention on to some irrelevant detail which they claim disproves the truth.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 07:37 PM
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10. debunkingseptemberclues.pdf
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 02:37 AM
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22. At some point America is going to have to wake up to video fakery . . .
last month's Fox use of film from one demonstration to make another demonstration by

tea baggers look bigger is but one minor example.

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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 08:40 AM
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12. Well I finally watched the video, and I can say without question
it is embarrassingly dumb to believe it shows fakery of any sort.
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icee2 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:54 AM
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13. Why do you believe that?



"it is embarrassingly dumb to believe it shows fakery of any sort." I'm sure you have substantive, logical reasons. What are they?
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:54 AM
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14. As I posted up-thread, in case you missed it
Edited on Fri Nov-27-09 09:56 AM by KDLarsen
It's called a perspective.

You know, where closer objects appear larger than more distant ones? In this case, the camera was close to the Empire State Building and zoomed in on the more distant twin towers - hence the Empire State Building appears to be gigantic.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 06:24 PM
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15. defendandprotect
http://www.belowgroundsurface.org/belowgroundsurface/Living911Part3.html

This link has 9/11 Live broadcasts as shown on network television.

The network footage is from NBC,ABC,CBS,BBC,FOX.

When you use the title of your thread as 'Actual News Footage Of Wtc On 9/11/01'
and it's NOT, it is misleading.

I've just finished watching the FOX broadcast that started at 9:54am and ends at 10:36am.
Both Towers have fallen during this time.

AT NO TIME DOES IT SHOW THE ESB. PERIOD.

I have watched the ABC broadcast several times and at no time did they show the ESB either.

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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 06:31 PM
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16. The very first video
Edited on Sun Nov-29-09 06:35 PM by HannibalCards
in your link. NBC coverage at 2:10 into the video. That building you see there is the Empire State Building.

ETA - In the FOX coverage (at your link) the ESB is clearly visible at 1:30 into the video.
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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 06:56 PM
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17. ABC coverage
(Once again, at your link) at 14:40 in the ABC video, the camera pans across the city and you clearly see the Empire State Building.

Did you really watch these before you made your claim?
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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-29-09 07:02 PM
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18. CBS coverage
1:45
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:02 AM
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19. defendandprotect
My apologies.

The FOX footage is from Channel 5 which apparently is in DC. and was not broadcast nationwide.

Regarding those who responded to my comment - you are on my Ignore list so whatever Pearls_of_Wisdom you've shared with me have not been seen :hi: by me.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-30-09 11:13 AM
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20. Here are thePearls of Wisdom...

from the 3 posts you're ignoring.

The very first video in your link. NBC coverage at 2:10 into the video. That building you see there is the Empire State Building.

ETA - In the FOX coverage (at your link) the ESB is clearly visible at 1:30 into the video.


ABC coverage (Once again, at your link) at 14:40 in the ABC video, the camera pans across the city and you clearly see the Empire State Building.

Did you really watch these before you made your claim?

CBS coverage - 1:45


See what you miss when you Ignore?

Sid
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 02:40 AM
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23. You're saying they moved the Empire State Building to the side of the WTC towers pre 9/11?
:eyes:

Unless the video you watched is the one I posted, we're talking about two different

videos.

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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:13 AM
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25. I didn't say that at all
The claim was made that;

"I've just finished watching the FOX broadcast that started at 9:54am and ends at 10:36am.
Both Towers have fallen during this time.

AT NO TIME DOES IT SHOW THE ESB. PERIOD.

I have watched the ABC broadcast several times and at no time did they show the ESB either."

I watched the videos linked to, and the Empire State Building is not only in the video, it is exactly where it is supposed to be.
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