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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 09:40 AM
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Am I Missing Something?
I do not recall any report of any of the hijackers taking credit for the worst attack ever on American soil.

They didn't issue a single statement about why they did what is alleged they did?

No reason was ever given by the perpetrators. That's rather odd, don't you think?
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HannibalCards Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:00 AM
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1. Perhaps you could explain
How could the hijackers possibly issue a statement taking credit for what they did?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:27 AM
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2. Remember when
Colin Powell said he was gonna issue a complete statement about the whole affair, but never did?

I'll bet he looked for an LTE, a note, a press release, anything from any of the 19 proclaiming why they were on a suicide mission that would shake the world.

Maybe they were just too humble?
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:49 AM
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19. I believe they had a radio at least.
They could have gave a statement to air traffic control if they had an inclination to make a statement.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 01:29 PM
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3. Several martyrdom videos were released post facto...
Here is Al-Ghamdi's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fr3rA_KKyk&feature=related

There are others of you are interested enough to look for them. Atta and Jarrah, for example, also released 'suicide' videos.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 02:23 PM
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4. Al-Ghamdi?
you're grasping for straws here. nothing the narrator says in that video can possibly link him to 9/11. he seems to give some generic speech about expelling the foreign invaders from the muslim holy land, yada yada, but doesn't say one word about 9/11 or any large-scale 9/11-like event about to take place. there's nothing in the video that incriminates him.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 02:48 PM
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5. Yeah, straws
If this fellow is already known as a self made enemy of the US, then what has he to lose by talking about 9/11 and praising himself and others for their 'success'?

That's what I am missing... who is trying to be the hero for 9/11? Anyone?
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 02:56 PM
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6. That's where the muslim hijacker story breaks down
nothing these guys allegedly did in the days before 9/11 makes a lick of sense or is consistent with the actions of devout martyrs about to sacrifice themselves for their holy cause.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 03:02 PM
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7. Yep
That was one of the keys to making me examine the whole story; the whole OCT.

And upon such an examination came the idea that I was being lied to about so many things, which led me to an even closer examination to find just what were lies and what wasn't.

Overall, about 2/3 of the OCT has been shown to be lies and/or a coverup.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 05:19 PM
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8. More here for you to ignore...
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 11:07 AM
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10. Nothing there
Just a bunch of myths that try hard to make sure Bushco is whitewashed.

You'd think that whomever it is that posts those myths, that they had something better to do than make Bushco look squeaky clean.

There is zero on that site having to do with this thread. Zilch.
Nice try tho.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:05 PM
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11. What bullshit....
and I love the way you imply that anyone who doesn't agree with your goofy claims must be trying to "make Bushco look squeaky clean". Nice smear, dude.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:10 AM
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17. Goofy claims?
See this conversation:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x308086

In some small way, I actually miss ya. Of course, we were forcibly divorced from each other some months ago by the mods, but I still liked seeing your attacks on liberals get blown away by nearly everyone else on DU.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:54 AM
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20. You submit a response to a year and a half old post
to a guy that was just recently tomb stoned?

Kinda weird.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:57 AM
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21. well
For a long time the DU software would not let me respond to any post of the now pizza'd dude.

But I'm sure he still reads, so there you have it.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:01 PM
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22. is that true?
DU can prevent you from responding to a poster?
you responded to him dozens, if not hundreds of times.
is this just more bullshit from DU's biggest bullshiter?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 04:21 PM
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24. So DU prevented you from responding to a poster?
Edited on Sun Jul-31-11 04:21 PM by LARED
FIrst I've ever heard of that. I think it's just more BS.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:29 PM
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25. Bwahgaha
You really don't know much about DU and it's software, do you?

You are trying to tell me about 9/11 and you don't even have a clue about some of the things that make DU operate? Bwahahaha


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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:41 PM
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26. what does knowing about 9/11
and knowing about DU software have to do with each other?
and are you claiming you were blocked from replying to a poster when you have hundreds of replies to that poster?
now, I understand how you could fall for a silly CT...
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 08:44 PM
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27. .....
You don't have a clue either? You don't understand how someone can be blocked?

And you expect people to listen to you about anything?

What's funny is you don't even want to know.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:06 PM
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28. I know what I see.
I've never been restricted from replying to a poster.

I think you should take another poll. Maybe 88 percent of DU'er have the same software delusions as you.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:11 PM
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29. My gawd
It's right in front of your nose and you ignore it.

Know what, if y'all asked how, I'd tell ya. But no. Y'all just lash out, making fools of yourselves.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:24 PM
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30. So spill it. nt
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:37 PM
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31. yes, please tell us how the mods prevented you from replying to a poster.
this should be good.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:02 PM
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32. I'm hoping they smile on me again and do the same with you
Consider this a request, mods.

Then I can thank them again for their Solomon like effort as I did in post #80 of the Lithos' pinned thread at the top of the forum.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:44 PM
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33. Ponder this fact
While you are trying to become less ignorant about this....

Research why it is the pizza'd boy did not respond to me since Sept. 2010.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:06 PM
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36. maybe
cuz he felt your nonsense wasn't worth responding to?
would not be shocked.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 02:04 PM
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37. heh
You know who you remind me of? SDud.
Oh, he had more sense, and was a hell of a lot smarter. But that isn't saying much.

Anyway, speculate all you want about the why of SDud, and remain otherwise totally clueless, just remember, that is not my problem. My problem is bushco.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:59 AM
Response to Reply #31
34. Maybe you should read the DU rules closer, or ask a moderator about
the "Forced Ignored" option that DU has, where the mods can put you on ignore from each other. You're really making yourself look ignorant here. I've been away for a while, what lead to to his demise? What was the final straw?

Peace,

Ghost
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 10:24 PM
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38. I don't know either.
I haven't checked this forum in a while and just popped in last weekend to see what was happening.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 10:08 AM
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39. You know, SDude and I had our go arounds on here, some not so nice..
but we also exchanged pleasantries via PM. I liked trying to get him riled up a bit at times, but I just like some heated, in your face "debate" sometimes. I think it realy helps in the overall picture when trying to figure out just where someone stands and what their issues are. I hate to see him gone, really..

Hope all is well with you and yours, AZCat...

Peace,

Ghost

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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 07:58 AM
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35. well, me neither
I've never used the ignore function. There are people I often disregard, but no one I am willing to ignore as a software setting.

I do remember one period where the admins... someone can correct me if I get this wrong. IIRC, the admins experimented with reducing thread-to-thread pie fights by allowing posters to prevent people on their ignore lists from responding on their threads. Then the admins decided that if they were doing that, it would only be fair to let people see each other's ignore lists. I remember howling in laughter with a friend about how many people one DU poster (not someone who posts much in this forum, by the way) had barred from replying to his posts. The admins fairly soon rolled back the entire experiment.
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:01 PM
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23. OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the few voices of reason on DU tomb stoned??????????


Say it isn't so:spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 05:28 PM
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9. Gettysburg.
:think:
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:43 PM
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12. More accurate to say you're missing many things.
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=139038
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1619489
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 12:58 PM
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13. Heh, this is a good reply to you
JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-05-07 10:42 PM
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34. It doesn't matter.

Almost none of these guys look like they are definitely the same ones as in pictures of the hijackers provided by the FBI. But whether they are or not, it doesn't matter. They may be actors, they may be real fanatics dedicated to committing real murder, they may be faked by digital means... and I don't care.

They didn't schedule the wargames for September 11th. They didn't choose the scenarios that were run on that day. They didn't practice these scenarios repeatedly beforehand. They didn't keep Bush in a school for 45 minutes during the attacks, or make Myers and Rumsfeld pretend to be scarce. They didn't spontaneously reschedule Winfield's shift on the evening before the attack. They didn't stymie command response and sow confusion in the air defense and keep the interceptors occupied elsewhere. They didn't bury the dozen-plus prior warnings from foreign intelligence services, many of them highly specific. They couldn't kill the request for a Moussaoui search warrant, Dave Frasca did. They didn't put a yellow stickie over Atta's face and shut down the Able Danger program, after it discovered them, that was the Pentagon. They didn't arrange for a fake Atta to spook around Florida prior to his official arrival date of July 2000. They didn't insure that the Pentagon was hit, or that UA 93 was shot down by a missile. They played their role, and either they believed in it or they were just acting. And it doesn't matter.

After 9/11, they didn't say there should be no investigation. They weren't the ones who decided 9/11 was an act of war that justified several wars in response, all of which were coincidentally planned before 9/11. They didn't link 9/11 to Iraq and then murder half a million people there in the name of justice. They weren't the ones who ignored the Pakistani connection. They did not anthrax the Congress, or sic the FBI to intimidate the committee investigating 9/11. They didn't set up a ludicrous investigation under Kissinger and then Zelikow, who came to it straight from the White House. They didn't say the question of who financed them was trivial and irrelevant, and should be ignored.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:39 PM
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14. does this mean that you withdraw your OP? n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 01:43 PM
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15. Heh
Have you seen any evidence of the hijackers themselves actually taking credit for their alleged activity? I haven't.

The question remains unanswered. After 7 years. No evidence. Why is that?
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 04:05 PM
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16. didn't we just go through this? n/t
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:27 AM
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18. It appears that BeFree not only does not offer evidence...
He refuses to look at any either. Blind, deaf and dumb faith, that will spread the "truth" :rofl:
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