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The Blackmailing of America
Edited on Wed Dec-09-09 06:14 PM by CrunchMaster
The purpose of this post is not to accuse anyone or any group of anything. This post is simply pointing out some of the interesting international connections and domestic connections surrounding certain American celebrity figures which may reveal a glimpse of how these figures and those around them might be part of some larger manipulation by a small number of individuals foreign and domestic that are generating media distractions to keep the eyes of their citizens "caught in the headlights" while they push for wars which will make billions of dollars in profits for themselves and their co-conspirators. Some of these connections are simply coincidences but it is worth looking at as a whole.

1988 : David Letterman's harrased by stalker who later dies in COLORADO
"Ray first made the news in 1988, when she was arrested driving Letterman's Porsche, stolen from his driveway, with her 3-year-old son. She claimed she was Letterman’s wife and that her son was their child. Over the next several years, she was arrested a total of eight times on trespassing and other counts. She left cookies and an empty whiskey bottle in the foyer of Letterman's Connecticut home, and left books and letters in his driveway"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mary_Ray


1993 : Michael Jackson as Media Distraction During time of the World Trade Center 1993 attacks

February 1993 : Michael Jackson is interviewed by Oprah

February 26th, 1993 : World Trade Center basement bombing

August 1993 : Michael Jackson accused of molesting boy
"Jackson reveals in a TV interview that he had an inherited disorder that caused his skin pigmentation to fade. He was also accused of molesting a boy who often stayed at his home. The singer denied any wrongdoing, reached a settlement with the boy's family, reported to be $20 million, and criminal charges were never filed."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/06/entertainment/main5137880.shtml


1994-95 : OJ Simpson as media distraction during the years of the Oklahoma City bombing

June 12, 1994 Brown and her friend Ronald Goldman were found dead outside Brown's condominium.

April 19, 1995 : Oklahoma City Bombing by Tim McVeigh and involving German agent provocateur Andreas Strassmeier
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2006_08_27_exclusives.html

October 3, 1995 : OJ found in a jury verdict not guilty for the two murders.

1996 : Dieter Wiesner of GERMANY becomes MJ's manager
Dieter Wiesner is MJ's manager from approximately 1996 to 2003
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bashir

"Dieter Wiesner - who worked for the late pop legend from 1996 to 2003 - alleges the 'Thriller' star used medicinal drugs for years but became addicted to them in the wake of Martin Bashir's 2003 documentary, in which Michael revealed he slept in the same bed as young boys."
http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=148&num=241086


Dec 25th, 1996 : Boulder COLORADO child beauty pageant queen Jon Benet Ramsey dies and a New Media Distraction is Born

October, 1998 : Woman who stalks David Letterman for years commits suicide in COLORADO (see more on Letterman 2009 below)
"The woman who was repeatedly jailed for stalking David Letterman over the last decade committed suicide on Monday by kneeling in front of a speeding train in western Colorado, the police said."
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/07/nyregion/the-woman-who-stalked-letterman-is-a-suicide.html


April 20th 1999 : Columbine Colorado Shooting

2000 : Michael Jackson's Doctor, Conrad Murray opens Global Cardiovascular Associates, his Las Vegas practice, in 2000.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161498125

May 4, 2001 : Robert Blake's wife Bonnie Lee Bakley is murdered. In April 18, 2002 Blake is arrested. In 2005 he is acquitted. Blake like OJ are both accused of killing their wives. But will be only OJ that gets nonstop media scrutiny.

October 2001 : Michael Jackson is invited to stay with "The Fellowship" at their Cedars location
"The Fellowship certainly did not mind when singer Michael Jackson stayed with his children at the Cedars in October 2001 when he was in Washington for a benefit concert for the 911 victims. In a lawsuit filed in 1993, Jackson was accused of sexually molesting a 13-year-old boy. According to a September 27, 2002 Los Angeles Times article by Lisa Getter, Jackson’s stay at the Cedars was arranged through David Kuo, George W. Bush’s White House director of the Office of Faith-based Initiatives. Kuo, a former CIA employee who co-wrote a book with Ralph Reed, had been Executive Director of the Center for Effective Compassion, founded in 1995 by Arianna Huffington and Marvin Olasky. Olasky is a Jewish convert to evangelical Christianity, a major Christian reconstructionist proponent, and an ardent supporter of George W. Bush. Kuo also previously worked for the Christian Coalition and Senator John Ashcroft."
http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm


2003 : MJ Media Distraction Right Before Iraq War 2003
On Feb 6th, 2003, Disney/ABC(of YWAM Path to 9/11 infamy) airs a Pakistani-British Martin Bashir's documentary "Living with Michael Jackson."
ABC airs the British documentary, "Living With Michael Jackson." Jackson's comments about allowing kids spend the night in his bedroom prompted authorities to look into his relationships with children. Later that year, law enforcement agents raid his Neverland Ranch, and on Nov. 20, 2003, Jackson is booked on suspicion of child molestation.

Summer 2003 : Kobe Bryant Media Distraction... Another COLORADO connection
Eagle, Colorado : In the summer of 2003, the sheriff's office of Eagle, Colorado arrested Bryant in connection with an investigation of a sexual assault complaint filed by 19-year old hotel employee Katelyn Faber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant

December 2003 : Cops raid MJ's house digging through his porn stash:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jacksonhouse.html

December 2003 : Fox reports on MJ'S GERMAN Connections
"Michael Jackson's got some big problems. And that's besides being arrested for child molestation. Jackson has no idea that his current manager, Dieter Wiesner, the man who helped hire attorney Mark Geragos and is now calling the shots in the Jackson camp, is known for operating sex clubs and brothels at home in Germany.

"According to my sources, in recent weeks Wiesner and his partner, Ronald Konitzer, have cut Jackson off from his regular group of advisers, isolating him. (Konitzer, a Vancouver businessman who is said to have many enemies, is apparently the one who actually called Geragos last spring.) Together they have been with Jackson since before the search of Neverland Ranch on Nov. 19, staying at the pop star's side."

"Wiesner can be seen lurking in the background on the infamous videotape of Jackson dangling a baby from a German hotel balcony."

"...Wiesner owns several such clubs. Two of the clubs were identified as the Sauna Relax Club in Limburg, Germany, and the Sex In (formerly called Rosie's Bar), which is managed by Wiesner's girlfriend, Roswitha Becker, in Darmstadt, Germany. Becker's sister is also said to be part of the team, which operates the two clubs plus private apartments where call girls ply their trade."

"According to my sources, Jackson does not know the true nature of Wiesner's business. The two were introduced by Jackson's former head of security, Wayne Nagin, after Wiesner approached Nagin with a business proposition for Jackson in 1997. Nagin is now rumored to have his own legal troubles."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104516,00.html


2005 : Michael Jackson moves to Bahrain at invitation of Bahrain royalty
After he was acquitted of child molestation charges in 2005, Michael Jackson pulled a disappearing act. At the end of June 2005 he went to Bahrain, the tiny 33-island archipelago in the Persian Gulf known less for its isolation than for playing host to the U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet: If Jackson wanted to get away from all things American, he chose poorly.
http://middleeast.about.com/od/bahrain/a/michael-jackson-bahrain.htm


"The singer, who has reportedly fled America for good in favor of a new life in the Middle East, has been enjoying hospitality in Dubai with his close friend Sheikh Abdullah Bin Hamed Al Khalifa and motor racing star Mohammed Ben Sulayem."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=560


Michael Jackson taken in by Bahrain royals who give him lots of money:
Abdullah Hamad Al Khalifa did him one better. He lavished dollars and attention on Jackson, called him "my brother," and told media outlets that he had formed "a close personal relationship" with the star. No word from Sheikh Dad if he approved, though he must have. Jermaine, after all, had converted to Islam in 2001 after a visit to Saudi Arabia. The sheikh must've thought he could go two for two with the Jacksons, if not an eventual grand slam. Raised a Jehovah's Witness, The closest Jackson got to Islam until then was through his dalliances with the Nation of Islam. (The sheikh got his wish, belatedly: in November 2008, British papers reported that, on something of a whim, Jackson converted to Islam and changed his name to the Arabic sounding Mikhaeel.)
http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/06/25/when-michael-jackson-was-the-world-to-bahrain.htm


December 24th, 2006 : Michael Jackson returns to USA(Las Vegas) after living in Ireland and Bahrain with the help of Las Vegas deal maker Jack Wishna:

"We hear that Jackson's friend, Las Vegas dealmaker Jack Wishna, was instrumental in having the pop icon move back to the United States."

"Wishna wouldn't say where Jackson might land on the Strip. Wishna made headlines during Jackson's trial when he courted the entertainer, saying a Jackson comeback would earn a Celine Dion-like contract in Las Vegas."
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Dec-24-Sun-2006/news/11612290.html


MJ Ties to Meyer Lanksy Associate and Reputed Mobster Al Malnik(South Florida):
"I am told that Malnik was instrumental in a recent restructuring of Jackson’s finances — no mean feat considering his tumultuous history. I am also told that Jackson’s ability to pay his $3 million bail and legal bills in the multi millions may come from Malnik’s largesse and interest in his career."
http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/13523.html


Al Malnik's Ties to the Saudis(according to Daniel Hopsicker) :
"But it's not Malnick’s gangster ties that make your jaw drop: its his connection with the Saudi Royal Family.

Jewish lawyer and alleged 'gangster' Malnick’s son married the daughter of a leading Prince of Saudi Arabia's founding family.

"The Saudi Prince not only blessed the marriage, but regularly works with the US organized crime associates," states one report on the connection. "The Saudi King would frequently send his private 747 to Florida to pick up Malnik and his associates, so they could conduct business on the plane away from prying eyes."
http://www.madcowprod.com/07272009.htm


May 27th, 2007 : Man with Ties To Denver COLORADO and ARGENTINA says 9/11 work has made him a target(He will be in news again 09/04/2009)
"A former Federal Emergency Management Agency videographer accused of killing his wife in Denver is seeking political asylum in ARGENTINA, claiming the U.S. government wants him silenced for what he saw in the smoldering ruins of the Twin Towers after 9/11."

Sonnenfeld said he was arrested by Interpol agents on the new Denver charges a week after delivering a demo video of 9/11 footage to a TV producer in Argentina.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5555425,00.html


March 2009 : Jackson announces he will perform 50 shows at London's 02 Arena in July. Tickets sell out within hours.

May 2009 : Doug Hampton and John Ensign(Senator from Nevada) wrangle back and forth in attempt of Hampton's to get a financial settlement over Ensign having slept with Hampton's wife.

Doug Hampton is a member of Promise Keepers and of C Street "The Fellowship":
Doug Hampton said he was not directly advised by the Fellowship to cover up Senator Ensign's affair with his wife, but instead to "be cool." Doug Hampton said the Fellowship felt they needed a more powerful voice to confront Ensign, and reached out to C Street resident and conservative leader Senator Coburn.<63> After initially denying it, Senator Coburn admitted that he tried to broker a settlement between Doug Hampton and Senator Ensign to prevent Senator Ensign's affair with Cindy Hampton and his dealings with Doug Hampton from being disclosed to the public.<64>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_%28Christian_organization%29
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/timeline_suggests_ensigns_help_for_hampton_was_har.php


A couple of exposes on the "The Fellowship" where so many American politicians go to worship Hitler and get blackmailed:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/18/82144/4697
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/msnbcs-imaddow-showi-prop_b_262011.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYeGR7O1lKI

Doug Hampton's attempts to blackmail Ensign
http://blogs.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/dec/07/ensign-working-regain-trust/

May 2009 : John Ensign refuses Hampton's $2 million settlement offer.

May 27th, 2009 : Hoax bomb Threat made against Air France Flight from Argentina to Paris France
""A rather eerie coincidence: five days before Air France Flight 447 tragically crashed into the Atlantic Ocean after leaving Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, an Air France flight from Argentina to Paris was delayed due to a bomb threat.

On May 27, Argentina's Momento 24 reported that the airline had received a bomb threat over the phone. Police and firemen inspected the plane but found nothing."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/02/air-france-bomb-threat-ca_n_210657.html


Article on Argentina being a Neo-Nazi hotspot:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0823/p07s02-woam.htm

History of Argentina as refuge for Nazis:
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/argentina/090311/argentinas-anti-semitic-past

June 1st, 2009 : Air France Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to Paris France Plane Crashes Into Ocean off Coast of Brazil
Air France Flight 447 was a scheduled commercial flight from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to Paris, France that on 1 June 2009 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 216 passengers and 12 crew members.<2>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

History of Nazi Exploration in Brazil:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1080071/The-Boys-Brazil-Nazi-graveyard-discovered-deep-Amazon-rainforest.html

Ties of "The Fellowship" aka "The Family" to Brazilian dictators and generals:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_%28Christian_organization%29

June 11, 2009 : Doug Hampton sends letter to Fox News and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania disclosing Ensign's affair with his wife.

June 16th, 2009 : Pentacostal Christian John Ensign holds press conference regarding his affair
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/09/30/us/politics/20091001-NEVADA.html

June 18th, 2009 : South Carolina Episcopalian Mark Sanford disapears. Has gone to Argentina
From June 18 until June 24, 2009, the whereabouts of Governor Sanford were unknown to the public, including to his wife and the State Law Enforcement Division, which provides security for him, garnering nationwide news coverage. Lieutenant Governor André Bauer announced that he could not "take lightly that his staff has not had communication with him for more than four days, and that no one, including his own family, knows his whereabouts."<30>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sanford


June 23rd, 2009 : Sandford's car is found at Atlanta airport. Sources tell the TV station that Sanford was seen by federal agents boarding a plane there, without security.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/the_missing_governor_a_timeline.php

June 24th, 2009 : Sandford returns from Argentina
Sanford arrives at Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta on a flight from Buenos Aires, Argentina, where he says he has been for the last few days. In press conference he admits his affair with a woman in Argentina.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/the_missing_governor_a_timeline.php

June 24th-June 25th : Media starts to investigate Sandford ties to "The Fellowship"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/25/AR2009062504480.html
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/06/24/sanford-cites-secretive-christian-groups-role-in-helping-confront-affair.html

June 25th, 2009 : Stories are circulating that Mark Sanford's mistress Maria Belen Chapur had ties to 9/11. She had been a reporter in New York covering 9/11 for Argentine TV station Canal America. Sandford met her in 2001
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/maria-belen-chapur-mark-s_n_220838.html
http://starcasm.net/archives/6847
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_0hrC5Utx6yZZkF9GGqIcWJ

June 25th, 2009 : Michael Jackson dies while preparing for Philip Anschutz sponsored London concert in turn hijacking the news for weeks

July 8th, 2009 : Las Vegas Sun reports there was attempt made to help Hamptons to move to COLORADO:
On July 8, the Las Vegas Sun reported that Douglas Hampton had spoken publicly for the first time about the affair, saying Ensign continued his affair with Cynthia Hampton even after intermediaries, including Republican Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, tried to convince him to stop the affair and help the Hamptons pay off their home and move to Colorado.<43>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ensign


Tom Coburn(Oklahoma), John Ensign(Nevada) both live in the YWAM(Youth With A Mission) owned C Street House in Washington D.C.
"Coburn is affiliated with a religious organization called The Family. Coburn lives in one of the Family's dormitories when in Washington, D.C., with Senator John Ensign, another Family member and longtime resident of the C Street Center who admitted he had an extra-marital affair with a staffer in 2009. The announcement by Ensign of his extramarital affair brought public scrutiny of the Family and its connection to other high-ranking politicians including Coburn.<71>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Coburn


COLORADO AGAIN : Phil Anschutz and Ties to Michael Jackson

Phil Anschutz is a Denver Colorado Businessman
"Denver billionaire investor Philip Anschutz is plugging into the red-hot renewable-energy field, announcing plans to develop multibillion-dollar wind-farm and transmission-line projects. "
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_10036833


Anscutz is a conservative Christian:
"Named Fortune's "greediest executive" in 1999, the Denver resident is a generous supporter of anti-gay-rights legislation, intelligent design, the Bush administration and efforts to sanitize television. With a net worth of $5 billion, he is Forbes ' thirty-fourth richest American, two spots above Revlon's Ronald Perelman. Anschutz heads a vast media empire whose assets include the Examiner chain, twenty percent of the country's movie screens, and a sizeable stake in Qwest Communications, the scandal-ridden telecom giant he formerly directed. "
http://www.nerve.com/dispatches/clark/citizenanschutz/printcopy.asp


Anschutz ties to UK:
"Anschutz's investment in the Millennium Dome in London, (through his company Anschutz Entertainment Group now The O2) has resulted in his involvement in controversy related to the possible influence of former British Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott in the award of the "super casino" license by the British government. Anschutz knows Prescott personally, having had him as a guest for a two-night stay at Anschutz's ranch in 2005 and footing the bill for hospitality and gifts.<5>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Anschutz


"Anschutz's company, AEG, had booked Michael Jackson to perform at O2 Arena in 2009/2010.
After Jackson's death, AEG offered to provide "souvenir" tickets to fans of the singer who waived refunds of the ticket price, although refunds of the approximately 750,000 tickets sold at £55-£75 each are available to customers that request them.<9> AEG also controls the rights to any material that forms a part of the "This Is It" concerts.<10>""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Anschutz


Anschutz's Conservative Christian Activism:
"A heavy contributor to the Republican Party for decades, Anschutz helped fund Amendment 2, a ballot initiative to overturn a state law protecting gay rights, and helped stop another initiative promoting medical marijuana. More recently, he helped fund the Discovery Institute, a conservative Christian think tank that mounted a public relations campaign and financed "research" into intelligent design. He has also supported the Media Research Council, the group that generated nearly all the indecency complaints with the FCC in 2003. As a friend of his told Fortune, Anschutz "has a latent interest in doing something significant in American Christianity. He is working deliberately and diligently on it."
http://www.nerve.com/dispatches/clark/citizenanschutz/printcopy.asp


"Anschutz may better resemble another openly conservative Presbyterian, one who acquired his own vertically integrated empire of newspapers, film studios, and television stations years before anyone realized he would turn those media outlets into his personal political mouthpiece. That man was Rupert Murdoch."
http://www.nerve.com/dispatches/clark/citizenanschutz/printcopy.asp


It is Anschutz's AEG which was paying the Texas doctor who wound up killing Michael Jackson with an overdose of Propofol:

AEG's Ties to Texas Based "Safe Zone" Traveling Doctor, Conrad Murray
Conrad Murray before being hired by AEG was completely broke:

"Murray was hired through Jackson’s promoter in May, as his bleak financial picture threatened to worsen. He was under court orders to pay more than $363,000 for equipment for his heart clinic, and was ordered in April to repay $71,000 in student loans dating to the 1980s. Two lawsuits claiming he owes $240,000 more for unpaid equipment are pending in Nevada courts."
http://www.theinsider.com/news/2649545_Before_MJ_Hired_Him_Dr._Conrad_Murray_Owed_HELLA_Cake


Conrad Murray, who in younger years had lived on the Caribbean islands of Trinidad and Tobago, conveniently passed thru many of the terrorist patsy safe zones mentioned I've mentioned before:
"He was in his early 30s when he graduated in 1989 from Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tenn. He did additional training at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and Loma Linda University Medical Center in California, and had fellowships in interventional cardiology at the University of Arizona Medical Center and University of California, San Diego.

He is licensed to practice in California, Texas and Nevada, and records show he has had no disciplinary actions taken against him. "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31855763/ns/entertainment-music/


"Dr. Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's personal physician, is gearing up to sue AEG, the entertainment company sponsoring his ill-fated This Is It tour this year.

AEG was paying Murray's costs as he served as MJ's doctor. Michael died June 25 of an apparent overdose of Propofol, a strong anesthesia, it is widely believed."
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/11/dr-conrad-murray-suing-aeg-for-back-pay/


Jackson family said to be suspicious of role of advisor's and reps AEG hired for Michael Jackson:
Jackson's family also want to know more about the role of AEG Live, the concert promoter due to stage his 50-date concert series at London's 02 Arena. They want to investigate the role of his advisers and representatives and believe they were put in place by the promoter.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/jun/27/michael-jackson-death-autopsy


Philip Anschutz Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Texas, Ontario, Germany, Pennsylvania, Sweden connections:
"The company owns the Los Angeles Galaxy, Houston Dynamo (50%), Los Angeles Kings, Ontario Reign, Manchester Monarchs, Eisbären Berlin, Hamburg Freezers, 49% of Hammarby IF Fotboll, as well as interests in the Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Sparks and Reading Royals."

"In August 2007, AEG announced plans with Harrah's Entertainment to build a privately-financed 20,000-seat arena in Las Vegas on the Strip <7> on Harrah's land located directly behind the Bally's Las Vegas and Paris Las Vegas resorts."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschutz_Entertainment_Group


Philip Anschutz Contributions to Nevada Senator John Ensign:
http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Philip_Anschutz.php

The death of Michael Jackson wasn't the first time Anschutz made money off of a tragedy:
"After he was in business a couple of years, he later told the Colorado Historical Society in a 1974 interview, he experienced a crisis, which he referred to as "the most important single event" in his business career. A well he owned a stake in struck oil and soon caught fire.

Over the next several days, working on little sleep, Anschutz persuaded the other stakeholder to increase Anschutz's share in the well if Anschutz could contain the blaze. He then sought out Red Adair, a famous firefighter who later put out the oil well fires during the Gulf War. In part to pay Adair, Anschutz persuaded a movie studio to pay him $100,000 to film Adair putting out his well fire for a 1967 John Wayne film called "Hellfighters." The fire was put out and Anschutz saved his business. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A808-2004Nov20?language=printer


September 4th, 2009 : Living in exile in ARGENTINA after fleeing COLORADO, Kurt Sonnenfeld once again is in the news
http://www.opednews.com/articles/9-11-FEMA-VIDEOGRAPHER-BLO-by-Allen-L-Roland-090904-303.html

Oct. 1st 2009 : David Letterman Announces he has become Target of Blackmail
"On his October 1, 2009 show, Letterman announced that he had been the victim of an extortion attempt by someone threatening to reveal that he had had sex with a few of his female employees. He confirmed the relationships.<53><54>"

"Halderman was a television journalist with CBS News for thirty years, and at the time of his arrest a producer of the CBS true crime journalism series 48 Hours.<57> Halderman was indicted by a Manhattan grand jury<58> and pleaded not guilty to a charge of attempted grand larceny on October 2, 2009.<57>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Letterman


Halderman produced shows on the Virginia Tech massacre and 9/11:
"Virginia Tech: Anatomy of a Rampage (2007), about the school shooting and mass murder known as the Virginia Tech massacre which took place at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.<2> In September 2006 he produced Five Years Later: How Safe Are We?, a look at US security since the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and The Pentagon.<2>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Halderman

And on the Beslan massacre:
Halderman's work at CBS News won an Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Award for broadcast journalism and seven Emmy Awards. He also received an Emmy Award nomination for the 2006 film Beslan: Three Days in September which was narrated by Julia Roberts and aired on Showtime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Halderman

Blackmailer Halderman's COLORADO connections

David Letterman's Blackmailer Halderman's wife goes to live in "Balloon Boy" town Ft. Collins, Colorado:
"Halderman married Patty Montet in 1990 and the couple had two children. They divorced in 2004. In 2007, Halderman was ordered to pay Montet $6,800 per month in child and spousal support until May 2011, when the payments will be reduced to $5,966 until May 2014, according to papers filed in Stamford Superior Court in Connecticut. In May, 2009, Montet bought a house in Fort Collins, Colorado and moved there with her sons.<3>"

"Jimmy and I are both very sad and a little worried about how this will play out. He says he will really miss his football team and coaches. I have assured him that I will travel to Colorado as much as I possibly can.

I have already started making travel arrangements for the summer and fall. I have also told him that he will be coming back here to visit often. One positive note is that my father Jim Halderman, Jimmy's namesake, lives just outside of Denver. His home is about ninety minutes from Ft. Collins so I will have a base when in Colorado."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/10/03/2009-10-03_robert_joe_halderman_writes_of_pain_in_email_as_exwife_leaves_with_son.html


TIGER WOODS TURN TO BE MEDIA DISTRACTION

November 25, 2009 : Tabloid magazine the National Enquirer is reported to be running a story on Tiger Wood's affair with Rachel Uchitel:
http://mediatakeout.com/2009/37127-explosive_rumor_tiger_woods_is_allegedly_cheating_on_his_wife____and_the_sad_part____his_jumpoff_aint_even_cuter_than_his_wife_pics_of_his_bust_it_baby_inside.html

November 27, 2009 : Tiger woods crashes his car generating even more rumors.

November 29. 2009 : Explosive UK Mail story on Sunday reveals that 8 months before the 2003
Iraq war Blair warned that deposing Saddam Hussein was a blatant breach of international law.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1231746/Secret-letter-reveal-new-Blair-war-lies.html

UK, Las Vegas, New York, San Diego Mistress Ties to Tiger woods:

This is not an attempt to clear Tiger's name. It would seem that in some of these cases at least he does appear to be guilty. He has admitted to transgressions against his wife. This is just a look at the flurry of Las Vegas and UK activity surrounding American black celebrity Tiger Woods, which seems similar to the flurry of Las Vegas and UK interest that surrounded Michael Jackson over the years leading up to MJ's death:

Fox News and UK Tabloids are keeping tally. So far the number of women is at 11:

1.) Rachel Uchitel : former Las Vegas VIP host now living in New York. Uchitel started out as a television producer at Bloomberg, the business news company, and, with eyewitness accounts from her fiancé, investment banker Andy O'Grady, helped to report the early stages of 9/11. When the second plane hit the South Tower he vanished, and she spent the following days wandering the streets of New York looking for answers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/golf/tigerwoods/6689927/Rachel-Uchitel-from-911-symbol-to-tabloid-target.html

2.) Jamie Grubbs : San Diego cock tail waitress and Los Angeles Reality TV star wannanbe claims she met Tiger in Las Vegas. Jamie Grubbs was charged with misdemeanor burglary and grand theft after she was accused of shoplifting from the Nordstrom store at Horton Plaza in San Diego. Had a San Diego face book page which is now down.
http://www.mahalo.com/jaimee-grubbs

3.) Kalika Moquin : The 27-year-old club manager from Las Vegas is reported to have had a brief sexual relationship with Woods. She would neither confirm nor deny the report.

4.) Cori Rist : The 31-year-old New York party girl and low level model reportedly met Woods at a Manhattan club last year

5.) Jamie Jungers : The 26-year-old, who sold her story to a British newspaper, is a former employee of Trashy Girls Lingerie. She said she met Woods in Las Vegas.

6.) Mindy Lawton : The 33-year-old pancake house waitress from Orlando claims she was dumped by Woods in 2007. She told her story to UK publication, News of the World. "Sometimes I looked like a rag doll after we'd made love," she said. "He really did like it quite rough. News of the World reports.

7.) Holly Sampson : The 36-year-old from Los Angeles is a former porn star, who has starred in such films as “OMG, Stop Tickling Me” and “Flying Solo 2.”

And is there a British connection yet to come out of the woodwork?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1233675/Tiger-Woods-wife-Elin-Nordegren-moves-porn-star-Holly-Sampson-waitress-tally-women-EIGHT.html

8.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 8 : A former cocktail waitress from Orlando, Fla. does want to reveal her identity yet, according to her attorney Michael O’Quinn. But this she has said: at the time the affair allegedly began, she was 20 years old and met Woods at the Roxy in Orlando, where she was a VIP server.

9.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 9 : is reported to be a “sexy” British TV presenter who was single at the time, but is now married.

10.) Unidentified Alleged Mistress No. 10 : is reported in a UK paper to be a “sex-addicted cougar.”

11.) Joslyn James(Veronica Siwik-Daniels) : Las Vegas based porn star. She was named on the European registered sports blog Deadspin.com as a Tiger regular

December 1st, 2009 : US Weekly and ABC News report there is audio, photo and cell text messages of Tiger's affair
"Jaimee Grubbs, 24, told the magazine that she began having an affair with Woods in April 2007 and has since had 20 sexual encounters with the golfer.

The article, published today on the magazine's Web site, said that Grubbs claims to have more than "300 racy texts from Woods" as well as photos."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jaimee-grubbs-claims-tiger-woods-affair/story?id=9216688
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/second-woman-claims-affair-with-tiger-woods-2009112


Dec 1st 2009 : Obama makes decision to pour 34,000 more troops and billions more dollars into the Afghanistan war
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/12/01/i-do-not-make-this-decision-lightly-obama-afghanistan-troop-s/


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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 06:33 PM
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1. Any theory that starts w/ Dave Letterman stalker and ends w/ Obama sending troops to Afghanistan
This theory is not our friend.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 06:40 PM
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2. It's a Timeline of Connections and Associations related to Media Distractions, Not a Theory
Edited on Wed Dec-09-09 06:47 PM by CrunchMaster
I explained that pretty clearly in the very first paragraph. In the subject I call it "Blackmailing of America" which might imply I have a solid theory. If you took it that way then I understand. But it is not a theory. Just a collection of dates and connections that may mean something or might be more due to coincidence arising out of things that aren't necessarily a unified conspiracy. I don't claim to know for sure but I have my suspicions not all of which I have laid out here.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-09-09 07:05 PM
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3. Just Asking Questions. Got it. n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:18 AM
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10. "I have my suspicions not all of which I have laid out here"

Well be our guest. Take your time. Tell us what you suspect.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 05:17 PM
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7. Ummmmm..... yeah


I believe the point is that a lot of THINGS happen in different PLACES and TIMES which involve PEOPLE who are connected to THINGS in different PLACES and PEOPLE.

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 05:44 PM
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8. While at the same time
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 05:44 PM by Bolo Boffin
Other THINGS are happening in other PLACES and TIMES which other PEOPLE connected to them would prefer you concentrate on the original THINGS you mentioned.

I get it.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:22 PM
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9. "Media Distractions"
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 07:22 PM by jberryhill
...like when you walk down the detergent aisle at the supermarket and the boxes are all screaming "Buy Me!", "No, Buy Me!" at you.

I think that might happen to some people here on a regular basis.

Makes it hard to think, you know.

Especially if you are off your meds.
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:01 AM
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59. EVERY FUCKING DAY!
The voices won't stop
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:49 PM
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13. That is one way of saying it
What I am trying to show is how common interests(foreign and domestic) are colluding to keep the USA stuck in a path to war against the will of what the majority of American people want. The collusion is not necessarily an organized collusion well planned and thought out totally in advance but i still see it as an attempt by some Americans and some foreigners to keep their countries at war and in fear and raking in the dollars for the corporations they are bought and paid for and if people ever want to take their democracies back they need to understand who is working to derail democracy and the well proven methods by which democracies are derailed:

"The resolution condemned "the existence for 40 years of a clandestine parallel intelligence" as well as "armed operations organization in several Member States of the Community", which "escaped all democratic controls and has been run by the secret services of the states concerned in collaboration with NATO." Denouncing the "danger that such clandestine network may have interfered illegally in the internal political affairs of Member States or may still do so," especially before the fact that "in certain Member States military secret services (or uncontrolled branches thereof) were involved in serious cases of terrorism and crime," the Parliament demanded a "a full investigation into the nature, structure, aims and all other aspects of these clandestine organizations or any splinter groups, their use for illegal interference in the internal political affairs of the countries concerned, the problem of terrorism in Europe and the possible collusion of the secret services of Member States or third countries." Furthermore, the resolution protested "vigorously at the assumption by certain US military personnel at SHAPE and in NATO of the right to encourage the establishment in Europe of a clandestine intelligence and operation network," asking "the Member States to dismantle all clandestine military and paramilitary networks" and to "draw up a complete list of organizations active in this field, and at the same time to monitor their links with the respective state intelligence services and their links, if any, with terrorist action groups and/or other illegal practices." Finally, the Parliament called "on its competent committee to consider holding a hearing in order to clarify the role and impact of the 'Gladio' organization and any similar bodies," and instructed "its President to forward this resolution to the Commission, the Council, the Secretary-General of NATO, the governments of the Member States and the United States Government.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladio
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:37 PM
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12. At least I am contributing something here other than dozens and dozens of debunking posts
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 04:57 PM by CrunchMaster
The point of the threads i have been doing is to show connections. Not to draw solid conclusions which is much harder to do. If you don't like reading the thread you are free to go somewhere else. I started this thread so people can start looking at the connections beneath the surface of things that keep this country on a fastrack to fascism. Throughout the USA's history there has always been a wealthy class working with foreign interests to derail American democracy. And that is mainly what this thread was about.

For example if you can't see there is a nerve center of terror and fear mongering coming out of COLORADO then probably nothing will convince you of it. I think though a lot of people can see the connections. Doesn't necessarily mean this is an organized conspiracy. It could just be common interests coming together for similar goals. Much of this common interest evolved out of the Al-Qaeda network that the CIA and Pakistan created to fight against the Soviets. The problem is, that this collusion still exists to create wars against enemies we manufacture and fund in Pakistan. When you realize that Colorado is becoming the nerve center for domestic focused U.S. intelligence then it begins to make more sense why so much fearmongering is coming from that state.

If you can't see any connections, then that is your choice to believe that no connections exist. But some people here are genuinely interested in why no progress is ever made in this country and it keeps tilting to the right. The answer to that question is because the USA is run by a shadow government.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:53 AM
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19. Not sure exactly why, but you made me think of this quote;
Edited on Fri Dec-18-09 05:53 AM by LARED
There is nothing more dreadful than imagination without taste.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:05 AM
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23. Think you're doing something worthwhile in questioning these "distractions" . ..
While I don't look at them quite the way you're doing --

in scanning your info I found one or two surprising connections --

Religion is a tool of the right -- long used for conquest --

Nothing wrong with giving this some thought!

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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:57 PM
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24. Thanks, Not sure if all of the connections have meaning, just making note of them when i see them
Edited on Sat Feb-20-10 09:01 PM by CrunchMaster
I'm not trying to imply all of the things posted are directly linked. But the fact that Colorado finds itself at the middle of so many big stories is not necessarily because Colorado is the ground zero of some grand unified conspiracy. That's not really what I believe. But Colorado is the home of some major power players and many people and many major events are pulled into that orbit. Same thing with Texas. Oil is big in Texas. And therefore wars to control oil are also likely to get big support from Texas. Doesn't mean all of the power players are on the same team or have the exact same agenda. But it does help you see the root of some of the USA's problems(like Texas supported wars to protect the oil industry, and the stolen elections to push that through, and Colorado intelligence hubs and the shennigans that get played around intelligence centers like Colorado and Virginia). That is the reason many of these "distractions" are coming from those areas as the people living in these areas are motivated in support of a common goal whether that goal is more wars to support intelligence budgets(Colorado, Virginia) or more wars to control the production of oil(Texas).
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 12:47 AM
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4. Article on Fascism in Argentina from today's news
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 12:48 AM by CrunchMaster
In light of the Mark Sandford-Argentina-Air France-9/11 connections I made in that last post, here's some more background on Argentina's problems with the French, an MSNC article from today:

Argentine ex-spy on trial in deaths of nuns
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34371230/ns/world_news-americas

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0828-02.htm
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:50 PM
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5. Weapons of Media Destraction : UK & Murdoch Gang Rape Tiger, Scary Dead Cows in COLORADO
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 09:51 PM by CrunchMaster
Tiger Woods wants the UK not to publish any naked hump pictures of himself cheating on his wife:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BA31F20091211?type=entertainmentNews?feedType=RSS&feedName=entertainmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Rupert Murdoch : Commie? Nazi? Or Super Villain?

America Wrecker Rupert Murdoch, who's transnational media empire played a pivotal role in getting the USA to dump loads of cash in Iraq and Afghanistan and also singlehandedly created a 5th column legion of American idiots called Teabagger's, is now using his UK/Ireland blackmail rag The Sun to burn holes in another American celebrity, Tiger Woods, who got caught with his pants down. Similar to the way UK and Murdoch tag teamed to flood the American news cycles with lurid OJ and MJ stories:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2768606/Madam-claims-Tiger-Woods-paid-for-escorts.html

Tony Blair says with or without WMDs he would have lied to you about Iraq anyways:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/12/tony-blair-iraq-chilcot-inquiry

U.S. National Security Haven COLORADO wants to remind you the world is a scary place where shadowy networks don't do bad things like kill cows... UFOs and Aliens do:
"There have been eight such mutilations in Colorado this year, all with the same baffling lack of evidence. And while Colorado has been the focus of current activity, this strange phenomenon has appeared in just about every Midwestern state. Last year it was Missouri, before that Nebraska and South Dakota. Reports of similar activity have come from as far away as Switzerland."
http://www.examiner.com/x-32018-Kansas-City-Strange--Mysterious-Facts-Examiner~y2009m12d10-Cattle-mutilations-in-Colorado--a-Rocky-Mountain-mystery

The last major flap of cattle mutilations in the Midwest was when Nixon got caught with his pants down burglaring the Watergate hotel, was impeached and the dirty underwear of U.S. National Security, Military and Intelligence involvement in lies, domestic surveillance and atrocities in Vietnam were exposed for all to see.
http://www.answers.com/topic/cattle-mutilation


For more on how to blackmail and scare populations in to compliance while stealing their resources see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:36 PM
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42. The wealthy seem to be simply evil . . .
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 12:54 PM by defendandprotect
especially those who, like Murdock, want power --

Don't know about Tiger -- there are lessons for the nation to learn there --

which speak to this nation's Puritan beliefs while reality is something else again.

A story with a lot of life in it to begin with -- ??

Was there any racism involved? Who benefited from Tiger's fall?

What impact has it had on the world of golf?


Didn't know that Murdock was the "wealth" behind the T-baggers but certainly they are as

bought and paid for as the GOP-sponsored fascist rally to stop the vote counting in Miami-Dade

County in 2000. And they are managed by a PR firm.


Didn't either know about this --

Tony Blair says with or without WMDs he would have lied to you about Iraq anyways:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/12/tony-blair-ira...

Could have guessed -- but it's nice to have it clearly stated by Blair!


I generally disagree about the cow mutilations being solely distractions . . .

U.S. National Security Haven COLORADO wants to remind you the world is a scary place where shadowy networks don't do bad things like kill cows... UFOs and Aliens do:
"There have been eight such mutilations in Colorado this year, all with the same baffling lack of evidence. And while Colorado has been the focus of current activity, this strange phenomenon has appeared in just about every Midwestern state. Last year it was Missouri, before that Nebraska and South Dakota. Reports of similar activity have come from as far away as Switzerland."
http://www.examiner.com/x-32018-Kansas-City-Strange--My...

The last major flap of cattle mutilations in the Midwest was when Nixon got caught with his pants down burglaring the Watergate hotel, was impeached and the dirty underwear of U.S. National Security, Military and Intelligence involvement in lies, domestic surveillance and atrocities in Vietnam were exposed for all to see.
http://www.answers.com/topic/cattle-mutilation


In fact, MSM has generally ignored these stories -- usually turn up at best on History or Science

Channel --

But the uncovered story involved in all of this is huge --

The central point being that President Carter clearly told us that UFO information is a higher

SECURITY issue than atomic weapons!! When Carter became president -- and he had had a sighting

as a civilian -- he was interested in seeing the government information on UFO's.

Poppy Bush, who then headed the CIA, told President Carter that he did not have high enough

security clearance to see the information!

Exactly what's going on with the mutilations, who knows? But certainly laser-like mutiliations.

AND that goes back I think to time before we knew what that even was?

Plus Cow blood is the closest to human blood --

And the blood of Pig's is also used for clotting factor --





Phoenix Program was one of the cruelest ever constructed --


For more on how to blackmail and scare populations in to compliance while stealing their resources see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program


Interesting post -- !!




:)
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 05:10 PM
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6. *** Rightwing Patsy Scapegoat kills Healthcare Reform ***
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 05:11 PM by CrunchMaster


Lieberman is not truly the reason healthcare was killed, but in American race based politics he makes a great Jewish scapegoat to fire up American anger. He plays the same role as Dov Zakheim(Jewish guy acting as chaff around possible 9/11 use of remote controlled planes and Rumsfeld losing 2.3 Trillion dollars) and the Jewish members of Cheney's office(acting as chaff around the 9/11 foreknowledge and Iraq planning of Dick Cheney). Also similar to the way Israeli art student spies with 9/11 foreknowledge were used by Rupert Murdoch's Fox News as chaff to draw attention away from American rightwing foreknowledge of 9/11.

Lieberman is a patsy paid and controlled by the Rightwing. Chaff to draw American populist anger and distract attention away from the fascist shadow government wrecking the country.

It's not all Lieberman's fault. Like in the case of 9/11 and Iraq war failures, it's also the bought off and blackmailed Democrats fault for not using their power to remove Lieberman instead letting Lieberman False Flag healthcare reform. Step up Obama!!!

"Lieberman credited President-elect Barack Obama for helping him keep his chairmanship. Obama had privately urged Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid not to remove Lieberman from his position. Reid stated that Lieberman's criticism of Obama during the election angered him, but that "if you look at the problems we face as a nation, is this a time we walk out of here saying, 'Boy did we get even'?" Senator Tom Carper of Delaware also credited the Democrats' decision on Lieberman to Obama's support, stating that "If Barack can move on, so can we.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman

Lieberman Tells Reid To His Face: I'll Vote Against Current Health Care Bill
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/13/lieberman-tells-reid-to-h_n_390416.html

Rahm To Reid: Give Lieberman What He Wants
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/rahm-to-reid-give-lieberman-what-he-wants.php

White House to Harry Reid: Cut deal with Joe Lieberman
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30572.html



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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:56 PM
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14. Um... do you even know what blackmailing IS?
Seriously, do you know the definition?

Exactly what information is being hidden, who is it being kept from, who is threatening to release it, and how exactly is "America" paying to keep it that way?
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:28 PM
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15. There are quite a few stories about American politicians being blackmailed
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 05:57 PM by CrunchMaster
Blackmail is what countries and political groups do to each other so that when one country or group is doing something underhanded and dirty the opposing group can be blackmailed into silence. It's why the Israeli Art students were snooping around the U.S. before 9/11 but never made public what they were looking for. And it is why Fox News right after 9/11 revealed the Israelis were snooping around before 9/11 but also did not reveal why they were snooping around and instead just totally killed their own story once they had put the Israelis on alert by broadcasting it. At least that is one way to look at it. The other being the more conventional take that these events mean nothing at all. People who see the world that way will probably not find this thread very interesting. Like I said, this thread was a timeline that may or may not be implying some type of blackmail going on. Hard to know why people choose to take certain actions without reading their minds.

BLACKMAIL DEFINITIONS:
a. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information.
b. Something of value extorted in this manner.

1. (Law) the act of attempting to obtain money by intimidation, as by threats to disclose discreditable information
2. the exertion of pressure or threats, esp unfairly, in an attempt to influence someone's actions
vb (tr)
1. (Law) to exact or attempt to exact (money or anything of value) from (a person) by threats or intimidation; extort
2. to attempt to influence the actions of (a person), esp by unfair pressure or threats

Pennsylvanian Male Escort and Conservative Columnist James Dale Guckert(aka Jeff Gannon)




Here are a couple of links that goes into the far right background of Bruce and Bobby Eberl and how they were likely involved with blackmailing D.C. politicians for the far right in order to get the U.S. involved in a war in Iraq:
"Interestingly, Todd Blodgett has -- like Bruce and (perhaps) Bobby Eberle -- devoted some effort to the business of "taking names" -- that is, compiling mailing lists. He now runs something called the TAB agency, a PR firm in DC. At the same time, he has functioned as a connecting point between the Republican right and the far, far, far right."

Gannongate: I can link Iraq false intel, gay escorts, Nazis, Gannon, crack
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3238821

The wildest DC "gay prostitution story yet
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/02/wildest-dc-gay-prostitution-story-yet.html


Turkish/Iranian Sibel Edmonds says progressive Jan Schakowsky is a lesbian being blackmailed by Turkey:


Goes a long way to explaining why Bush was almost totally unconstrained in what he pushed through and why Democrats in contrast can't seem to accomplish anything. The people doing all of the blackmailing(the far right wing) were in support of Bush and his wars but do not support Democrats. What else explains why Democrats can't get anything accomplished? I'm openminded on this? I just don't see what else can explain why Democrats keep failing to do what they were voted in to do.

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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 06:40 PM
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16. About that link from 2005

"Hamden Rice" provided a great deal of interesting information. What have President Bush's defenders said about that guy?
(I'm referring to Rove & co. as well as anyone here that is inclined towards the official word regarding such issues)
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:51 PM
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17. *** Silence has been the response to the Gannon shennanigans which helped lead the U.S. to war ***
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 09:15 PM by CrunchMaster
It is not really possible to know what Gannon did or did not do in the white house. Maybe this is a hoax and no one in the Bush white house was involved with him at all. But what can be concluded fairly reasonably I believe is that the attempt to get a male prostitute into the white house as a correspondent was some type of far right attempt at sending a message(blackmailing) holdouts into going along with the fake evidence being ginned up to push the country to war against Iraq.

HamdenRice said that the following were linked:
"I can link Iraq false intel, gay escorts, Nazis, Gannon, crack"

FALSE INTEL:
Here's where Gannon comes in. Way back when Bush II was trying to build momentum for the war, using faked intelligence from "Iraqi exiles" like Chalabi, Joe Aziz was one such Iraqi exile being shopped around the country by GOPUSA. Aziz was the head of something called the "Iraqi American Council."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3238821


Male Prostitute Jeff Gannon asks white house about Iraqi exile Aziz al-Taee's claims against Saddam:
"QUESTION: This is about Iraq. On Saturday, I interviewed Aziz al-Taee, Chairman of the Iraqi-American Council. He detailed a compelling body of evidence about the holocaust being waged against the Iraqi people. Why hasn't the administration focused on this aspect of Saddam's regime to justify intervention without U.N. approval? After all, it was the Clinton administration that used ethnic cleansing as a pretext to bomb and send troops into Kosovo."
http://web.archive.org/web/20030402091853/http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030304-13.html


Curveball who was being held in GERMANY was another of these fake Iraqi exiles.

PENNSYLVANIAN Jeff Gannon promotes phoney news coming from PENNSYLVANIAN Iraqi Exile Aziz al-Taee(who also wants war in Iraq) and who happens to be a partner with PENNSYLVANIA Jewish businessman Nick Berg(who presumably also wanted war in Iraq):
"Last year, Aziz al-Taee, chairman of the Iraqi-American Council told Talon News about some of the atrocities he had seen. He spoke of how his cousin was tortured and murdered by Iraqi officials after which his mutilated body was returned to his mother with a bill for the bullets used to kill him. She was threatened with execution if she dared to hold a funeral service for her son."
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?dc15339f-b998-4785-a240-f21ea2f838fa


Nick Bergs ties to Iraqi Exile Aziz al-Taee:
"In late December, he flew to Israel and crossed by land into Iraq via Jordan. For the next month, Mr. Berg operated in Iraq much the same as he did in the United States: touring the countryside, usually by taxi, inspecting towers and building a database, he told friends.

One trip took him to Abu Ghraib, the neighborhood outside Baghdad that is now famous for its prison complex. Another took him north to Mosul. He also made contact with an Iraqi businessman, Aziz al-Taee, who had lived in PHILADELPHIA for 20 years before returning to Baghdad after the fall of Saddam Hussein."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/26/international/middleeast/26BERG.html?scp=2&sq=Aziz%20al-Taee&st=cse&pagewanted=3


"Aziz Kadoory Aziz, also known as Aziz al-Taee, hooked up earlier this year with the 26-year-old West Chester man to start a small company called Shirikat Abraj Babil, or Babylon Towers Co., that would install, inspect and repair telecommunications and utility towers. In interviews with several news organizations in Baghdad, Aziz claimed he may have been the last friend to speak with Berg before his kidnapping and beheading by terrorists possibly linked to the al Qaeda network. The radio-tower contractor had come back to Baghdad after a 13-day detainment in Mosul, only to disappear again on April 10."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x560487
Original Philly article no longer online



More on the Far Right PENNSYLVANIA/OKLAHOMA Networks that led to war(OKC Bombing, Landmarks Plot, and WTC '93 trial runs):
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=275537
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=275142

More on the GERMAN/Iraqi-exile/Nazi/Muslim Brotherhood Networks that led to war:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x273699#273792
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=276808

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chandler2 Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:22 AM
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18. Thanks. I wish you had provided dates (yrs.) - but still in all,
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 08:52 AM by chandler2
I don't anyone should be surprised at any shenanigans which are used to crank up the drums of war. "Remember The Maine" (a Hearst-inspired operation).

Along these kinds of lines, in 1941 the Pentagon was finished (Sept., I think), then in DECEMBER,1941 we had Pearl Harbor 1.
In 1961, we had the Operation Northwoods proposal.
In 2001, we had PHarbor 2 (another Sept. to remember).


War profiteers want wars, and if a GOP homosexual prostitute like Gannon can be of help in ginning up war fever, that's fine by
them, but I WONDER: was GANNON used to set UP Bush? Maybe Bush was entrapped and maybe Rove advised him that the best way out
was to move forward with another war.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:00 PM
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20. John Edward's Preggo Sex Video Tape...
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 05:12 PM by CrunchMaster
Remember when reading the stuff below, that both Andrew Young and John Edwards are proven liars. So what exactly the truth of this story is, may be a bit hard to know at this point.

John Edward's Pregnant Sex Tape Marked "Special"
"Former John Edwards' aide Andrew Young, who covered up the Democratic presidential candidate's affair, said when he cleaned up his house after his role in the cover-up ended he found one more shocker.

"There was one tape that was marked 'special,'" Young told ABC News' Bob Woodruff in an exclusive interview. "It's a sex tape of Rielle and John Edwards made just a couple of months before the Iowa caucuses."
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwards_Scandal/john-edwards-made-sex-tape-abortion-plea-aide/story?id=9680626


John Edwards made a pregnant sex tape a couple of months before the Iowa caucuses? Really? Is he really that stupid? Or did he even know he was being taped?

Though Young never saw the woman's face in the tape, he said she was "visibly pregnant" and was "wearing a bracelet" and a "thumb ring" typically worn by Rielle Hunter.

"It's her jewelry," Andrew Young's wife, Cheri, told ABC News. "It could be on another woman with the same jewelry."

Young gives his account of the sex scandal and the elaborate cover-up for the Democratic presidential candidate in a new tell-all book titled, "The Politician," which will be released Jan. 30."

He details how he and wife Cheri briefly returned to Raleigh, N.C., in July 2008 to clear out the house where Hunter had briefly lived before their December 2007 escape from the media. Young claims they found a box Hunter had left behind, which included some videotapes, in a pile of trash.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwards_Scandal/john-edwards-made-sex-tape-abortion-plea-aide/story?id=9680626


Some time after Dec. 2007, Hunter and the Young family Move to California
After a report by the National Enquirer on December 19, 2007, Hunter announced she was pregnant with the child of Andrew Young, a married man who is a former staffer for John Edwards' presidential campaign. Young, his wife Cheri, and their young children were living outside of Chapel Hill, North Carolina, at the time in the same "Governor's Club" complex where Hunter was renting.<29><44> Soon afterward, the Youngs and Hunter moved to California.<45>

On February 27, 2008, Hunter, at age 43,<46> gave birth to a daughter in Santa Barbara, California, but did not list the child's father's name on the birth certificate.<29> She gave her own name as "Rielle Jaya James Druck" on her daughter's birth certificate, but gave the child the surname "Hunter".<2>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rielle_Hunter


In July 2009, the Claim was that Young Found the Tape After Unpacking in California. Are there multiple tapes?
Young says that his belief in Edwards ran so deep that he agreed to be the fall guy for the Democratic candidate, even going so far as to invite the pregnant Rielle Hunter to live with him, his wife, Cheri, and their three kids.

After Hunter delivered the baby, Young and his family moved to a different home in California. While he was unpacking, Young discovered an odd videotape - one that involved Edwards taking positions that weren’t on his official platform.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/07/andrew-young-john-edwards-rielle-hunter-sex-tape/


Texas Lawyer Bankrolls Rielle Hunter and the Young Family Move to California, also Helps Edwards
John Edwards' former finance chairman is emerging as the pivot point in a longstanding plan to conceal his affair with a campaign videographer, according to new reports.

Fred Baron, a high-profile Dallas lawyer, has strong ties to the attorneys now representing his mistress, Rielle Hunter, and Andrew Young, the former campaign aide who claims he fathered her baby.

SNIP

Baron has acknowledged personally giving Hunter and Young - who for a time lived together along with Young's wife in the same house - money to get out of North Carolina and away from the media.

SNIP

Edwards' political action committee, in part with donations from Baron's wife, reportedly paid Hunter an additional $14,000 for 100 hours of unused footage shot for the videos. That came in addition to more than $100,000 paid to Hunter's firm for the Webisodes, which were ultimately yanked from Edwards' site.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/15/2008-08-15_john_edwards_crony_emerging_as_key_figur.html


"It (the tape) was cut and pulled ... out," Cheri Young told ABC News, "We... taped it back together and we played it."

Young, who had worked for Edwards since his 1998 Senate win, said he was absolutely sure it was his boss in the tape.

"It's definitely him. You never see her face. But you see -- you clearly see his face for a long time. And I can't speak for the other body parts, but it's definitely his face," Young told ABC News.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwards_Scandal/john-edwards-made-sex-tape-abortion-plea-aide/story?id=9680626&page=1


New Version is that John Edward's Pregnant Sex Tape Casually Left in Trash 8 Months in North Carolina House Up For Sale
The Youngs said they were "aghast" by the contents and the thoughtlessness of leaving it in a house that was on the market.

"It's amazing the tape exists. ... But to leave it in a house that's for sale -- where Realtors are going to be coming through it -- and leave it there for eight months -- is unbelievable," Young said.

By that point, Young's relationship with Edwards was rapidly deteriorating, and he said he believed that the tape was an important chip against his boss.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwards_Scandal/john-edwards-made-sex-tape-abortion-plea-aide/story?id=9680626&page=1


Yes, that is pretty fucking amazing.

On Rielle Hunter
When Edwards rushed home in tears from campaigning in Iowa at the news that his wife's cancer had returned, he used Young's phone to call Hunter to cancel a date to celebrate her birthday in Des Moines that night.

"All I could hear was Rielle cussing," Young said. "She didn't care about Elizabeth's prognosis. All she cared about was that the senator was not going to be there to celebrate the birthday."

Each time Edwards professed his love for his wife on the campaign trail, Young said, "Rielle would go crazy...and it was my job and Cheri's job to calm her down."

The stakes got even higher in May 2007 when Young said he got a frantic call from Hunter.

"She said, 'I need to talk to him right now,' and started cursing and she threatened to go public if I didn't put them together. I said, 'well, either somebody's died, or somebody's pregnant.' And she said, 'Well, nobody's died,'" Young recalled.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwards_Scandal/john-edwards-made-sex-tape-abortion-plea-aide/story?id=9680626&page=2


Edwards claimed he felt he was "set up"
"He was cussing her out, calling her crazy ... and saying that ... she had sworn to him that she was physically unable to get pregnant. And that he just felt like he had been set up," Young said.
This Andrew Young guy digs the tapes out of the trash and tapes them back together.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwards_Scandal/john-edwards-made-sex-tape-abortion-plea-aide/story?id=9680626&page=3


Did Andrew Young make the Sex Tape? Conflicting Stories on How/Where Tape was Found
But why would that turn him against his boss? At that point, Young had already helped Edwards cheat on his cancer-stricken wife, and helped him deny his own flesh and blood. Yet something on a sex tape made him wake up and smell the mendacity? Right.

If such a tape does exist, whether Young got hold of it by accident or design is also unclear. The Enquirer reported that he found it while helping Hunter unpack when they lived together – along with Young's own wife and children -- in the hideaway house in California. Gawker cites that Young found it in a stack of DVDs in Hunter's house by accident.

The ick-factor is compounded by the Enquirer's report that 'John and Rielle think Andrew concocted the story that he 'found' the tape. They think he may have been the one responsible for recording it, "divulged the close source."
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/01/25/john-edwards-sex-tape-with-rielle-hunter-exposed-in-andrew-young/


Hey, here’s a hilarious way to get someone to find your secret, life/career/marriage-ruining sex tape that you filmed with a minor Jay McInerney character: lazily and shadily unwind some of the tape and label it “SPECIAL.” Because no one will want to quickly put it back together and watch it!
http://wonkette.com/413431/how-andrew-young-found-that-john-edwards-boning-tape


Sarah Palin and Teabagger nuts on one side... blackmailed Democrats having sex with pregnant mistresses on the other.

The USA is right there on the edge of the abyss.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 06:09 PM
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21. Blackmailing America : Gannon, James O'Keefe, Moon, GOPUSA, The Leadership Institute
Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 06:14 PM by CrunchMaster
For those of you still wondering why Dems seem so "spineless"... a short review of recent history

Some "Tinfoil" fun from someone on DailyKos - 03/09/2005
Imagine: What if Guckert-Gannon started out as an operative in GOP DC/Delaware area honey-pot blackmail operations set up to ensnare prominent closeted gay Dem politicians?

Par for the course? Happens all the time in real world high stakes power-politics

Guckert/Gannon proves himself with Management as a talented enthusiastic Up-and-comer with the right stuff, and exceptionally successful at snagging Dem gays. He is promoted to Cub WH reporter with his own by-line and fake Talon news agency, as reward for superior service in the Bushco-GOP organisation.

Interesting. Might help to tie together the wayback links between G/G & GOP propaganda/dirty tricks/ black Ops people, Biden's DINO behavior, and Biden's inconsistent flip-flop on G/G between Bill Maher "G/G bashing" appearance and Durbin letter calling for G/G investigation.

How is that for industrial strength Tin-foil?
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/3/9/8122/30401/91


Of course the author is speaking tongue-in-cheek. It's obviously not really tinfoil. It's politics. But in the current Dumbed Down Version of America where making people believe connecting dots is tinfoil, it's a useful tool for pulling off a con no questions asked.

More discussion here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/16/102251/279



Potential Blackmailing of the Current Administration started all the way back in 2005?
03/07/2005 - Is GannonGuckert threatening to out Joe Biden as a customer?
"And if GannonGuckert is suggesting he slept with a senior US Senator (who is one of the top Senators on foreign policy issues) for pay during war time, then all bets are off on this investigation. That would mean we were right to be concerned about the security risk of GannonGuckert getting access to the White House, senior staff and the president. It would mean we were right to be concerned about who GannonGuckert might have slept with as a client to gain and retain access to the White House, and possibly sensitive information. It would mean we were right to ask what connection GannonGuckert has to Senator Thune in South Dakota, to Karl Rove, to Scott McClellan, and more."
http://www.americablog.com/2005/03/is-gannonguckert-threatening-to-out.html


Not saying Biden is gay or any of what this Gannon asshole says is true. But it definitely interesting that it seems Biden was targeted by presidential blackmailer Jeff Gannon as far back as 2005. And let's not forget Gannon's purpose in all of this: Getting the USA stuck in a war in Iraq in 2003

*** Silence has been the response to the Gannon shennanigans which helped lead the U.S. to war ***
http://www.democraticunderground.com//discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x276952#277387

Pre-Iraq War Mar. 4th, 2003 : Male Prostitute and White House Visitor Jeff Gannon Whining about why the USA isn't already in Iraq
"QUESTION: This is about Iraq. On Saturday, I interviewed Aziz al-Taee, Chairman of the Iraqi-American Council. He detailed a compelling body of evidence about the holocaust being waged against the Iraqi people. Why hasn't the administration focused on this aspect of Saddam's regime to justify intervention without U.N. approval? After all, it was the Clinton administration that used ethnic cleansing as a pretext to bomb and send troops into Kosovo."
http://web.archive.org/web/20030402091853/http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030304-13.html


And we all know the history of what has happened under the new Democratic administration. More wars, and new war fronts against new enemies after each new terror attack U.S. intelligence conveniently forgets to stop or warn everyone about.

The Far Right, Reverend Moon, Evangelicals, & Blackmail : sourced from article on cannonfire.blogspot.com(I added Moon picture)
More on the Moon connection: "Gannon" and Doug Wead
Remember Doug Wead's infamous audiotapes of Bush, in which the prez makes some rather uncomfortable admissions? Many have wondered whether this release occurred as a diversionary exercise, intended to keep our noses pointed away from Gannon/Guckert.

I would like to propose an alternative scenario. I will present this alternative in interrogatory format.

Question 1: Who does Doug Wead really work for?

The tapes brought to the fore a couple of matters that could alienate W from his base: Drug use, and the possible ersatz nature of his proclaimed religious beliefs.

Many evangelicals suspected that Bush the elder was "faking it" when he claimed to be born again. (I still recall the video distributed in 1988 of Bush making this confession of faith. He seemed to be biting his lip; you could almost see a thin trickle of blood dribbling down his chin.)The Wead tapes tend to re-awaken those fears.

Wead originally joined the Poppy Bush campaign to teach him the "catch phrases" that would signal to the Jesusmaniacs that he, Bush, was also among those bathed in the blood of the Lamb. It was obvious that his fundamentalism amounted to little more than a collection of catch phrases; the religious right soon made GHWB the target of many of their most beloved conspiracy theories.

A much smaller (but not insignificant) proportion of the evangelical community still harbors those suspicions about the present president.

Here's the fascinating part: Wead's loyalties may never have been with W at all. What if Wead's allegiance really goes toward the Korean gentleman lurking behind the curtain?

Southern Baptist attendees at a pro-Bush inaugural function in 2001 -- a gala largely put together by Doug Wead -- were shocked when none other than the Reverend Moon showed up to give a speech and receive an award. You can read about this odd event in Kevin Phillips' book American Dynasty; there's also a brief description here.

Moon once proclaimed that his goal was the "subjugation of the American government and population." What if he's not kidding?

At any rate, I tend to think that Doug Wead made those tapes (and remember, we got only a brief snippet) available as a way to remind the President who is really in charge. We do not know what is going on behind the scenes; do not discount the possibility that Moon wants a service performed that Bush feels reticent to perform.

SNIP

Question 2: How did Moon get where he is?

His funds would seem to be unlimited, of course, but that only takes the question one step further. Moon first became a "player" during Koreagate, which -- as most web sites will not tell you -- largely concerned sexual blackmail operations directed against DC politicians.

In 1989, Moon's Washington Times published an incomplete account of a gay prostitution ring with White House ties. Why did Moon allow the publication of such a story, which could only embarrass the elder Bush? And why did the expose cease?


The idea of blackmail once more suggests itself.

Question 3: Why does GHWB speak on Moon's behalf?

In the mid 1990s, former president Bush -- in an unprecedented move -- made speeches endorsing the would-be Messiah. Unconfirmed reports tell us that Poppy was paid millions to give these speeches. But Does the clink of the bag of lucre explain his bizarre performance? The Bush family can't be that hard up for money; I doubt whether GHWB would have spoken on behalf of (say) David Duke or L. Ron Hubbard just to sock away a few extra million.

So why did he speak up on behalf of Moon? He incurred some risk in doing so: Moon is loathed by most of the fundamentalists the Bush family has attempted to court.

Once again: the concept of extortion explains much.

Question 4: How did Moon manage to be "crowned" as Messiah in our Capitol by a congressman, with many other congressfolk in attendance?


Does money suffice to explain this bizarre circumstance? Or should we also harken back to Koreagate, and Moon's proven history of using sex to dig up dirt on politicians?
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_archive.html


Blackmailing America : Connections Between Moon, Texas run GOPUSA and Jeff Gannon:
Question 5: How did GOPUSA achieve such rarefied heights so quickly?

How did the GOPUSA "reporter" gain access to the White House on a regular basis? How did he learn inside information about the attack on Iraq and other matters, including (perhaps) the Plame affair?

Recently, I have noted the many links between GOPUSA and Moon. Moon has always operated via a series of front organizations. If we presume that GOPUSA is one such organization, then we have an explanation for the big questions. The Bush White House let GOPUSA do whatever it wanted because it could not afford to do otherwise.

Let us review a few facts -- some mentioned previously, plus a couple of new ones -- which tend to favor this presumption:

1. GOPUSA has run scads of UPI material, seemingly free of charge; Moon owns UPI.

2. Bobby Eberle, head of GOPUSA, also writes for Moon publications such as the Washington Times, Insight and Human Events.

3. Gannon/Guckert worked for the Moon-linked Frontiers For Freedom.

4. Paul Teller of GOPUSA previously worked for the Moonie Times.

5. Bob and Bruce Eberle appear to be connected to right-wing funder "Hal" Eberle, who (during Reagan's Central American wars-that-were-not-wars) was a board member of a Moon front organization, the Nicaraguan Freedom Fund.

6. Although rank-and-file fundies hate Moon's theology, the Korean Messiah has been making inroads with certain fundamentalist leaders, including Tim LaHaye and Jerry Falwell. Moon has also been linked to the Fellowship, a group that has in turn been linked to GOPUSA.

I feel as though we've been given about 70 pieces of a 500 piece jigsaw puzzle. So far, the pieces tend to form the outline of a Moon...
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_archive.html


Jeff Gannon and the Leadership Institute
"The only journalism-related credential listed on former Talon News Washington bureau chief and White House correspondent Jeff Gannon's Talon News bio -- which was removed from Talon's website after Media Matters for America drew attention to Gannon and Talon News -- was The Leadership Institute Broadcast School of Journalism. While Talon News appears to be more of a Republican political advocacy group than a media outlet, The Leadership Institute Broadcast School of Journalism appears to be more of a training ground for Republican advocacy in the media than a school of journalism.

The Leadership Institute's president and founder, Morton C. Blackwell, told The Washington Post in 1992 that the Institute is "conservative, but not partisan." A review of the Institute's leadership and programming indicates otherwise."
http://mediamatters.org/research/200502120002


How this Morton Blackwell Asshole and His "Leadership Institute" Helped Put Clarence-Corporations-Are-People-Thomas on the Supreme Court
Blackwell was involved in an effort to use University of Oklahoma students to discredit Anita Hill in 1991, according to Strange Justice: The Selling of Clarence Thomas (Houghton Mifflin, 1994) by Jane Mayer and Jill Abramson, as the Daily Oklahoman noted on November 12, 1994. According to the Oklahoman, "Strange Justice" states that Blackwell "advised an an OU student on how to make Hill's life 'a living hell.' ... Blackwell's contact with the student came during the 1991 hearings in which Hill, an OU law professor, accused Thomas of repeatedly making lewd comments when she worked for him at two federal agencies in Washington." The Daily Oklahoman went on to note:

[]Blackwell told the student, Chris Wilson, to round up other conservative students to fax letters of complaint about Hill to key senators, the book says. Wilson, described as a "star pupil" at the Leadership Institute, told the book authors, "Morton's really incredible! We faxed hundreds -- well maybe thirty -- letters" to Republican Sens. Alan Simpson of Wyoming, Orrin Hatch of Utah, and Hank Brown of Colorado.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200502120002


Reverend Moon of course is probably very happy to know his and other foreign agent's ability to tamper with American politics has been strengthened by the toe-suckers and Opus-Dei ass flagellators on the supreme court who have given corporations free reign to support candidates of their choice


Supreme Court rolls back campaign cash limits
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34822247/ns/politics-supreme_court/


James O'Keefe, phone tapper of Louisiana Dems and the Leadership Institute
Following graduation, he worked for the Leadership Institute in Arlington, Virginia traveling to various colleges to train students how to start up conservatives newspapers.<16> According to Morton Blackwell, the president of the Leadership Institute, O'Keefe's longstanding ambition was "to go out and catch leftists breaking the law".<16>. O'Keefe, however, stated in the LA Times, that his videos "are not supposed to necessarily show people breaking laws. They are supposed to change hearts and minds."<18> After leaving the Leadership Institute, O'Keefe attended UCLA Law School for one year before turning to full-time conservative activism.<16>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O%27Keefe


James O'Keefe and Breitbart's ACORN beginnings in Blackmailing Democracts
Andrew Breitbart Trying To Blackmail The Obama Administration With ACORN And Other Videos
Breitbart complained to Hannity that while there has been no federal inquiry into ACORN, he, O’Keefe and Giles are being investigated (by AG Jerry Brown, in California). “That’s why we’ve been forced to offer this latest tape,” Breitbart said.

"Are you saying, Andrew, that there are more tapes?” Hannity asked, playing straight man because he already knew there were more.

“Oh, my goodness, there are,” Breitbart said. “Not only are there more tapes, it’s not just ACORN. (Hannity could be heard delightedly saying “Wow!” in the background). And this message is to Attorney General Holder. I want you to know that we have more tapes. It’s not just ACORN and we’re gonna hold out until the next election cycle or else if you want to do a clean investigation, we will give you the rest of what we have. We will comply with you, we will give you the documentation we have from countless ACORN whistleblowers who want to come forward but are fearful of this organization and the retribution that they fear, that this is a dangerous organization. So if you get into an investigation, we will give you the tapes. If you don’t give us the tapes (sic), we will revisit these tapes come election time.”
http://www.newshounds.us/2009/11/20/andrew_breitbart_trying_to_blackmail_the_obama_administration_with_acorn_and_other_videos.php


James O'Keefe Bugging and Surveillance of Democrat Mary Landrieu
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/us/politics/27landrieu.html

Why the USA is getting its own ass handed to it by the rest of the world : American Sellouts on the Inside
This is why we spin our wheels hoping for change and it never comes. Still at war with new war fronts opening every month it seems. Still got Guantanamo. Still being ripped off by the bankers. Still selling shit off firesale to China.

There is a small core of fascists in America that needs to be uprooted, exposed and eradicated(as in tried in court eradicated) if this country is to start progressing again into the 21st century.

Hopeful Signs the Democracts and Obama are working to correct America's susceptibility to homosexual Blackmailers
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama is urging Congress to repeal the ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military, but Democratic allies and Republican opponents alike are criticizing his approach.

Obama's effort to eliminate the "don't ask, don't tell" practice faces resistance not just from Congress, but also from the Pentagon, where some top officials have been strident in their support for the Clinton-era policy.

Still, the Pentagon said Thursday it will work to carry out the president's wishes. Top military leaders are working on a plan for how repeal of the law would be implemented in the Defense Department, said Navy Capt. John Kirby, spokesman for Adm. Mike Mullen. chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/28/AR2010012800494.html

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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-10 01:33 PM
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25. Republican Liars : O'Keefe did not go to Acorn Offices Dressed as Pimp
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 01:35 PM by CrunchMaster
The New York Times and Andrew Breitbart(and Washington Times) peddle the lie but never retract the story:

"The New York Times' independent Public Editor, Clark Hoyt, after sending me an email originally standing by the paper's misreporting of the James O'Keefe ACORN 'pimp' story, now describes the rightwing activist's misrepresentation of his highly-edited and heavily-overdubbed hit videos as "journalistically unethical."

O'Keefe's deceptive editing of those infamous tapes implied that he had presented himself in ACORN offices as a 70's-era blaxploitation "pimp." It was the eye-popping, media-friendly, marquee headline that news outlets, including the Times, latched onto and ate up. Except that it never happened. The tapes were purposely manipulated in order to give the appearance that ACORN workers were so dumb they didn't even recognize that skinny little white kid as a phony pimp. And that's exactly how O'Keefe, and his employer Andrew Breitbart who published the misleading tapes on his websites, wanted them to be perceived."

...

Despite the Times' repeatedly misreporting that O'Keefe was dressed or posed as a "pimp" while meeting with ACORN employees in those videos, and even after being shown in no uncertain terms that he did not, the Times' Public Editor has declined to recommend the paper retract its reporting on this story. The coverage at the "paper of record" undoubtedly helped lead to Congressional passage of federal legislation attempting to defund the community organization, and helped to bring on a subsequently crippling decline in other funding sources for the non-profit group which serves to provide support for low- and middle-income American families.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7715


Republicans are a bunch of lying assholes destroying the country. Nice to see the New York Times doing what they do best... aiding and abetting Republican thieves and liars.

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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 05:43 PM
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33. Republican Protected Foreign Owned Blackmail and Spy Agency(Washington Times) going Belly Up
Edited on Sun May-02-10 06:16 PM by CrunchMaster
Good riddance to that piece of shit rag the Washington Times. Here's praying that other foreign agent working to destroy American Democracy(Murdoch and Fox News) doesn't buy the Washington Times and resuscitate it.

The quotes I am about to post are from Robert Parry's article "How Rev. Moon's 'Snakes' Infested US." Please read the full article here:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html

Now for a brief look at how a foreign SPY with a nasty habit of manipulating U.S. politics and blackmailing American presidents with the surname BUSH has been protected by REPUBLICAN TRAITORS for three decades as they have worked to dismantle and destroy American Democracy:

After all, for 28 years, the right-wing Washington Times has sent disinformation slithering through the U.S. political system while creating a nest for propagandists who have befouled American democracy with irrationality and dirty tricks.

...

The immediate cause of the Washington Times’ financial collapse is said to be the bitter succession fight among children of the 90-year-old Unification Church founder who is no longer capable of maintaining personal control over his global religious-political-business empire.

...

Nicholas Chiaia, one of the two remaining members of the newspaper’s board of directors, told the Washington Post that the Washington Times is up for sale. “We recently entered into discussions with a number of parties interested in either purchasing or partnering with the Washington Times,” he said.

...

So, although some deep-pocket conservative might step up and save the American Right’s flagship newspaper, it appears that the Washington Times’ extraordinary run as a foreign-controlled and suspiciously funded propaganda vehicle may soon be over.

...

It has long been amazing that Official Washington has been so blasé about the curious case of the Washington Times, where a Korean theocrat – known for brainwashing his followers and for maintaining close ties with international drug cartels and foreign intelligence agencies – has been allowed to spend billions of unregulated dollars to influence U.S. political decision-making.

...

But what proved most important was how Moon made himself useful to Ronald Reagan, the Bush Family and other Republican heavy-hitters – often by putting into play propaganda smearing their political enemies. These Republicans, in turn, helped protect Moon, at least since the late 1970s.

During the Carter administration, the congressional “Korea-gate” probe into South Korean influence-buying in Washington revealed Moon’s foreign intelligence ties and some of his criminal activities, leading to his conviction on tax fraud charges in 1982.

In that same year, however, Moon took steps to insulate himself from further inquiries, most notably by launching the Washington Times. Since then, Moon’s empire – from its local fundraising scams to its international money-laundering – has escaped any serious government examination.

It didn’t even matter when Church insiders, including Moon’s former daughter-in-law Nansook Hong, provided first-hand evidence of systematic criminality. In an era dominated by Republican control of the federal government, U.S. authorities never seemed to put two and two together.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html



9/11 + Covert Operations + Protected Drug Smuggling + Republican Protected Criminal Reverend Moon, See below:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=276730
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=278106

Like with 9/11, bought off/compromised toe sucking Americans LOOKED THE OTHER WAY while FOREIGN AGENT MOON tampered with the American political system:
Though Moon’s operations in both Asia and South America were linked to major crime syndicates including the Japanese yakuza and Latin American cocaine cartels, federal prosecutors and congressional committees chose to look the other way.

That way Moon was allowed to continue pouring an estimated $100 million a year into his newspaper and other pro-Republican media outlets. Additional millions went to fund right-wing political conferences; to pay speaking fees to world leaders, including George H.W. Bush; and to bail other Republican political allies out of financial troubles.

...

Yet, while the Japanese scams might explain part of Moon’s fortune, others who have looked into Moon’s operation suspect that a major source of money derived from Moon’s close relationships with underworld figures in Asia and South America.

Those ties date back several decades to negotiations conducted by one of Moon’s early South Korean supporters, Kim Jong-Pil, who founded the Korean CIA and headed up sensitive negotiations on improving bilateral relations between Tokyo and Seoul.

The negotiations put Kim Jong-Pil in touch with two important figures in the Far East, Japanese rightists Yoshio Kodama and Ryoichi Sasakawa, who had been jailed as fascist war criminals at the end of World War II. A few years later, however, both Kodama and Sasakawa were freed by U.S. military intelligence officials.

The U.S. government turned to Kodama and Sasakawa for help in combating communist labor unions and student strikes, much as the CIA protected German Nazi war criminals who supplied intelligence and performed other services in Cold War battles with European communists.

Kodama and Sasakawa also allegedly grew rich from their association with the yakuza, a shadowy organized crime syndicate that profited off drug smuggling, gambling and prostitution in Japan and Korea. Behind the scenes, Kodama and Sasakawa became power-brokers in Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party.

...

Moon's church was active in the Asian People's Anti-Communist League, a fiercely right-wing group founded by the governments of South Korea and Taiwan. In 1966, the group expanded into the World Anti-Communist League, an international alliance that brought together traditional conservatives with ex-Nazis, overt racialists and Latin American “death squads.

Authors Scott Anderson and Jon Lee Anderson wrote in their 1986 book, Inside the League, that Sun Myung Moon was one of five indispensable Asian leaders who made the World Anti-Communist League possible.

The five were Taiwan’s dictator Chiang Kai-shek, South Korea’s dictator Park Chung Hee, yakuza gangsters Sasakawa and Kodama, and Moon, “an evangelist who planned to take over the world through the doctrine of ‘Heavenly Deception,’” the Andersons wrote.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html


Moon and Iran-Contra : 1989
Moon’s organization also used the Washington Times and its political clout in the nation's capital to intimidate or discredit government officials and journalists who tried to investigate Moon-connected criminal activities.

In the mid-1980s, for instance, when journalists and congressional investigators began probing the evidence of contra-drug trafficking, they came under attack from the Times.

An Associated Press story that I co-wrote with Brian Barger about a Miami-based federal probe into gun- and drug-running by the contras was denigrated in an April 11, 1986, front-page Washington Times article with the headline: “Story on drug smuggling denounced as political ploy.”

When Sen. John Kerry, D-Massachusetts, conducted a Senate probe and uncovered additional evidence of contra-drug trafficking, the Washington Times denounced him, too. The newspaper first published articles depicting Kerry’s probe as a wasteful political witch hunt.

“Kerry’s anti-contra efforts extensive, expensive, in vain,” announced the headline of one Times article on Aug. 13, 1986.

But when Kerry exposed more contra wrongdoing, the Washington Times shifted tactics. In 1987 in front-page articles, it began accusing Kerry’s staff of obstructing justice because their investigation was supposedly interfering with Reagan administration efforts to get at the truth.

“Kerry staffers damaged FBI probe,” said a Jan. 21, 1987, Times article that opened with the assertion: “Congressional investigators for Sen. John Kerry severely damaged a federal drug investigation last summer by interfering with a witness while pursuing allegations of drug smuggling by the Nicaraguan resistance, federal law enforcement officials said.”

Despite the attacks, Kerry’s contra-drug investigation eventually concluded that a number of contra units – both in Costa Rica and Honduras – were implicated in the cocaine trade.

“It is clear that individuals who provided support for the contras were involved in drug trafficking, the supply network of the contras was used by drug trafficking organizations, and elements of the contras themselves knowingly received financial and material assistance from drug traffickers,” Kerry’s investigation stated in a report issued April 13, 1989.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html


June 29th, 1989 : Foreign Owned Washington Times attempts to Blackmail the White House after Iran-Contra exposures


“In each case, one or another agency of the U.S. government had information regarding the involvement either while it was occurring or immediately thereafter.”

Kerry’s investigation also found that Honduras had become an important way station for cocaine shipments heading north during the contra war.
“Elements of the Honduran military were involved ... in the protection of drug traffickers from 1980 on,” the report said. “These activities were reported to appropriate U.S. government officials throughout the period.

“Instead of moving decisively to close down the drug trafficking by stepping up the DEA presence in the country and using the foreign assistance the United States was extending to the Hondurans as a lever, the United States closed the DEA office in Tegucigalpa and appears to have ignored the issue.”

The Kerry investigation represented an indirect challenge to Vice President George H.W. Bush, who had been named by President Reagan to head the South Florida Task Force for interdicting the flow of drugs into the United States and was later put in charge of the National Narcotics Border Interdiction System.

In short, Vice President Bush was the lead official in the U.S. government to cope with the drug trade, which he himself had dubbed a national security threat.

If the American voters came to believe that Bush had compromised his anti-drug responsibilities to protect the image of the Nicaraguan contras and other rightists in Central America, that judgment could have threatened the political future of Bush and his politically ambitious family.

By publicly challenging press and congressional investigations of this touchy subject, the Washington Times helped keep an unfavorable media spotlight from swinging in the direction of the Vice President – and bought some cover for Moon’s drug-connected right-wing allies, too.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html


Moon on America and Americans: Kiss my Ass
"Yet, Moon also made clear that his longer-range goal was the destruction of the U.S. Constitution and America's democratic form of government. "History will make the position of Reverend Moon clear, and his enemies, the American population and government will bow down to him," Moon said, speaking of himself in the third person. "That is Father's tactic, the natural subjugation of the American government and population.""
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon3.html


American President G.H.W. Bush shamelessly pimps(kisses ass) for obvious nutcake and FOREIGN ANTI-AMERICAN AGENT Reverend Moon. Why?

"True Father" Moon wearing what appears at first glance
to be cheap Burger King crown and "Holy Man" garb

Moon also used the Women’s Federation to pay substantial speaking fees to former President George H.W. Bush, who gave talks at Moon-sponsored events. In September 1995, Bush and his wife, Barbara, gave six speeches in Asia for the Women’s Federation. In one speech on Sept. 14 to 50,000 Moon supporters in Tokyo, Bush said “what really counts is faith, family and friends.”

In summer 1996, Bush was lending his prestige to Moon again. The former President addressed the Moon-connected Family Federation for World Peace in Washington, an event that gained notoriety when comedian Bill Cosby tried to back out of his contract after learning of Moon’s connection. Bush had no such qualms.

In fall 1996, Moon needed the ex-President’s help once more. Moon was trying to replicate his Washington Times influence in South America by opening a regional newspaper, Tiempos del Mundo. But South American journalists were recounting unsavory chapters of Moon’s history, including his links to South Korea’s intelligence service and various neo-fascist groups.

...

Trump Card

But Moon had a trump card: the endorsement of an ex-President of the United States, George H.W. Bush. Agreeing to speak at the newspaper’s launch, Bush flew aboard a private plane, arriving in Buenos Aires on Nov. 22. Bush stayed at Menem’s official residence, the Olivos.

As the headliner at the newspaper’s inaugural gala, Bush saved the day, Moon’s followers gushed. “Mr. Bush’s presence as keynote speaker gave the event invaluable prestige,” wrote the Unification News. “Father and Mother sat with several of the True Children just a few feet from the podium” where Bush spoke.

“I want to salute Reverend Moon,” Bush declared. “A lot of my friends in South America don’t know about the Washington Times, but it is an independent voice. The editors of the Washington Times tell me that never once has the man with the vision interfered with the running of the paper, a paper that in my view brings sanity to Washington, D.C.”

Bush’s speech was so effusive that it surprised even Moon’s followers.
“Once again, heaven turned a disappointment into a victory,” the Unification News exulted. “Everyone was delighted to hear his compliments. We knew he would give an appropriate and ‘nice’ speech, but praise in Father’s presence was more than we expected. ... It was vindication. We could just hear a sigh of relief from Heaven.”

...

“The day after,” the Unification News observed, “the press did a 180-degree about-turn once they realized that the event had the support of a U.S. President.” With Bush’s help, Moon had gained another beachhead for his worldwide business-religious-political-media empire.

After the event, Menem told reporters from La Nacion that Bush had claimed privately to be only a mercenary who did not really know Moon. “Bush told me he came and charged money to do it,” Menem said.

But Bush was not telling Menem the whole story. By fall 1996, Bush and Moon had been working in political tandem for at least a decade and a half. The ex-President also had been earning huge speaking fees as a front man for Moon for more than a year.

Throughout these public appearances for Moon, Bush’s office refused to divulge how much Moon-affiliated organizations have paid the ex-President. But estimates of Bush’s fee for the Buenos Aires appearance alone ran between $100,000 and $500,000.

...

Moon’s pattern of putting into Bush family causes continued into George W. Bush’s presidency. In 2006, Moon again used money-laundering techniques to funnel a donation to the George H.W. Bush Presidential Library.

The Houston Chronicle reported that Moon’s Washington Times Foundation gave $1 million to the Greater Houston Community Foundation, which in turn acted as a conduit for donations to the library. The Chronicle obtained indirect confirmation that Moon’s money was passing through the Houston foundation to the Bush library from Bush family spokesman Jim McGrath.

“President Bush has been very grateful for the friendship shown to him by the Washington Times Foundation, and the Washington Times serves a vital role in Washington,” McGrath said.

But Moon has earned the deepest gratitude of the Bush Family and the Republican Party via his multi-billion-dollar investment in the Washington Times, a powerful propaganda organ that helped the GOP build its political dominance over the past quarter century.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html


The Washington Times Targets America's political Center and Left so the Extreme Right can continue it's goal of Destabilizing and Destroying American Democracy and other Democracies around the World
Over those years, the Times has targeted American politicians of the Center and Left with journalistic attacks – sometimes questioning their sanity, as happened with Democratic presidential nominees Michael Dukakis and Al Gore. Those themes then resonated through the broader right-wing echo chamber and often into the mainstream media.

In 2000, the Washington Times was at the center of the assault on Al Gore’s candidacy – highlighting apocryphal quotes by Gore and using them to depict him as either "Lyin' Al" or delusional.

Aiming at Obama

The intervention by Moon’s media outlets into U.S. presidential politics continued into Campaign 2008 when Moon’s online magazine Insight tried to sabotage Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign before it even got started.

The Insight article cited opposition research supposedly dug up by Hillary Clinton’s campaign that Obama had attended a fundamentalist Muslim “madrassa” while a child and had sought to conceal his allegiance to Islam.

“He was a Muslim, but he concealed it,” a source supposedly close to Clinton’s background investigation of Obama told Insight. “The idea is to show Obama as deceptive.”

Insight used no named sources for the allegations, nor did the magazine check out the facts about the school.

After Moon’s online magazine published the “madrassa” story, it quickly spread to the wider audiences of Rupert Murdoch’s right-wing media outlets, Fox News and the New York Post, and then into the mainstream press. To further the subliminal link between Obama and Islamic terrorism, the New York Post ran its story under the headline “‘Osama’ Mud Flies at Obama.”

“The allegations are completely false,” said Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs. “To publish this sort of trash without any documentation is surprising, but for Fox to repeat something so false, not once, but many times is appallingly irresponsible.”

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson termed the Insight article “an obvious right-wing hit job by a Moonie publication that was designed to attack Senator Clinton and Senator Obama at the same time.”

When CNN checked out the Insight article on Jan. 22, 2007, the story collapsed. The Indonesian school that Obama attended as a child turned out not to be some radical “madrassa” where an extreme form of Islam would be taught, but a well-kept public school in an upper-middle-class neighborhood of Jakarta.

The boys and girls wore school uniforms and were taught a typical school curriculum today as they were 39 years ago when Obama was a student there, while living with his mother in Indonesia, reported CNN correspondent John Vause.

While most of the school’s students are Muslim – Indonesia is a Muslim country, after all – Vause reported that the religious views of other students are respected and that Christian children at the school are taught that Jesus is the son of God.

Though this Moon-financed propaganda may have been debunked, the subliminal doubt was planted about whether Obama might be a secret agent of radical Islam, a theme that has continued to resonate within the right-wing media and the Tea Party movement.

Now, however, it appears that the days of Moon’s news outlets initiating or circulating smears against political enemies may finally be nearing an end. What ultimately has caused the decline of Moon’s money machine – besides the infighting of Moon’s children – remains a mystery, at least to outsiders.

It’s possible that Moon’s lucrative connections to the netherworld of right-wing extremism, drugs and money simply were dependent on his personal relationships – and as they died off, so did his ability to access those financial channels.

It’s possible, too, that the value of Moon’s propaganda operation has been eclipsed by less problematic right-wing media moguls and self-made talk-show hosts who are now rich themselves.

Though Moon played a key early role in building the right-wing echo chamber, other wealthy individuals, from media titan Rupert Murdoch to newly minted multi-millionaires like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, can carry on quite well without the help of a Korean theocrat who thinks he’s the new Messiah.

Still, even the passing of Moon’s Washington Times will not mean that the snakes and other vermin that Moon let loose in the American political system will soon disappear. In fact, they may be more prevalent than ever.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/050110.html





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34. From Russia with Love : American Celebrities, Russian Honeys, the UK, Turkey and the FBI
Edited on Fri Jul-02-10 06:22 AM by CrunchMaster


After the recent bust of the Russian spies coincidently while Obama was "Pallin' around" in American hamburger joints with Russians and also in Toronto Canada at the G8(a setup?). I found it interesting that Mel Gibson, just a couple of days later is now in the news for being recorded saying some not so nice things by his Russian girlfriend.

One caveat, before I continue... I am not defending Mel Gibson for his racism and antisemitism and being an asshole for cheating on his wife. But the Russian coincidences here I find interesting, I also find the international interest... particularly from the UK, into American celebrities private lives also very interesting. And last but not least I find the possibility of some type of international intrigue going on here even more interesting although that does not mean the individual actors at the bottom are all necessarily conscious of any of this at all. I am curious though if someone in the shadows may be pulling some strings.

Mel Gibson Caught on Tape by his Russian Honey
Will this man ever learn? Mel Gibson has been caught on tape launching into a racist, profanity-laced tirade aimed at his baby mama, Oksana Grigorieva, while the couple’s 8-month-old baby is screaming in the background.

“You’re an embarrassment to me,” Gibson, 54, allegedly told Grigorieva, according to gossip Web site RadarOnline.com . “You look like a (expletive) pig in heat, and if you get raped by a pack of (racial slur), it will be your fault.”

On the tapes, which Grigorieva secretly recorded, Gibson repeatedly refers to the Russian-born singer as a “whore,” as well as nastier names that cannot be printed here.

But, wait, there’s more.

After the name-calling, Gibson threatens Oksana by saying he’s going to “come and burn the (expletive) house down.”
http://news.bostonherald.com/track/inside_track/view/20100702mel_gibson/srvc=home&position=also


Hmmmm...

Mel Gibson, James Bond and Three Russian Honeys Named Oksana : Life Imitating Art?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzMgHBY3HjA&feature=related

There are three possibilities. There’s Russian pianist Oksana Kolesnikova, who is married and has loudly denied any involvement with Gibson. She was just “entertaining Mr. Gibson with her piano music,” if you know what she means, and we think you do.

There’s also Oksana Pochepa, a blonde model signed (says Russia Today) to Gibson’s Icon music label, who has been loudly confirming involvement with the movie star — perhaps a bit too loudly. She’s known as “the Shark,” which is delightful.

Then there’s the Oksana of the moment, Oksana Grigorieva, yet another Soviet musician and mother to actor Timothy Dalton’s son. The London-based composer (left, via Rex Features) is reportedly separated from Dalton. Russia’s Komsomolskaya Pravda thinks she has to be the woman pictured frolicking with Gibson recently on a Costa Rican beach.

...

The Russian newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda said Gibson’s supposed new love was Oksana Grigorieva, 38, the former partner of Timothy Dalton.

Grigorieva is a Soviet-born musician who was reported to have separated from 007 star Dalton two years ago.
http://athensboy.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/too-many-oksanas/


Faked Pictures in UK Daily Mail?
Odd pictures in an article in The UK Piece of Shit Rag "DailyMail." They look doctored. What's up with Oksana's Pochepa's baby "footsies" on the left? And on the right, the weird grainy video look of the woman on a normal non grainy background?


UK Busy in America Spring of 2009
Mel first started to get into trouble with these Russian women back in April and May of 2009 when Murdoch owned UK tabloids began reporting on the break up of his marriage and his affairs. It was also in March of 2009 that Michael Jackson, was put in the spotlight by the UK media as he was preparing for a London concert. It was also in spring of 2009 that the John Ensign and Fellowship C Street scandals began to break into mainstream news. There seemed to be some odd ties between these events:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=276952&mesg_id=276952

Heres another UK rag doing what they do best. Reporting on famous Americans caught with their pants down.

"Even those who had been quick to dismiss the relationship as a mid-life crisis writ large were forced to admit that Gibson and his ‘Oksana of choice’ seemed a pretty good match (bizarrely, in the weeks since the end of his 28-year marriage he has been linked with three women of that name)."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1176755/Oksana-Grigorievas-road-Mel-From-Russian-poverty-Hollywood-royalty-embittered-British-husband-Bond-actor.html#ixzz0sV4bPfqe


Oksana Grigorievas from Russia to the UK to Hollywood

Mel with Russian Honey Oksana Grigorievas
Asked what sort of a woman Oksana was, Rowland replied: ‘You should ask all the other men – there were enough of them.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1176755/Oksana-Grigorievas-road-Mel-From-Russian-poverty-Hollywood-royalty-embittered-British-husband-Bond-actor.html#ixzz0sV5e8B5y


Regarding Oksana G.'s former British husband
Indeed, the most permanent thing about their marriage was the British citizenship that the ceremony at Brighton Register Office on April 6, 1992, afforded the Russian musician.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1176755/Oksana-Grigorievas-road-Mel-From-Russian-poverty-Hollywood-royalty-embittered-British-husband-Bond-actor.html#ixzz0sV6C2uMx


But her restless ambition was far from quenched. At the age of 20 she got just the break she was looking for – a ticket out of the USSR.

The chance came when she heard of an exchange organised by family friend Sergey Kuzmin, who ran a cultural centre in Saransk.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1176755/Oksana-Grigorievas-road-Mel-From-Russian-poverty-Hollywood-royalty-embittered-British-husband-Bond-actor.html#ixzz0sV6eEU1l


Her Wealthy Benefactors
A relationship with a much older man, well-connected and wealthy, seems to have followed, although he has never been named.

According to friends, it was he who introduced her to London society and into a circle that led to her being photographed by Lord Lichfield and appearing in a calendar of his work.


Her eyes were being opened to a new world of wealth and opportunity.

It was a world that would bring her into contact with 007 actor Timothy Dalton and, though the details of their meeting are not clear, the spark between them led to a relationship lasting ten years and to the birth of their son Alexander, now 12.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1176755/Oksana-Grigorievas-road-Mel-From-Russian-poverty-Hollywood-royalty-embittered-British-husband-Bond-actor.html#ixzz0sV7Ce2aB


For all his awareness of his ex-wife’s beauty and ambition, Rowland seems stunned by her apparently rapid rise into the realms of Hollywood wealth and celebrity.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1176755/Oksana-Grigorievas-road-Mel-From-Russian-poverty-Hollywood-royalty-embittered-British-husband-Bond-actor.html#ixzz0sV7ODAMU


24 year old Oksana Pochepa


Oksana Pochepa - Her Career in Moscow, 2001
Oksana Pochepa was born on 20th July, 1984 in Rostov-on-Don in Russia. From an early age Oxana Pochepa wanted to become a singer. She started her music career by joining a pop band "Maloletka" (Underaged) after beating hundreds of other contestants. At the age of 16 Oksana moved to Moscow, Russia where she published in 2001 her first solo music album "Kislotniy DJ" (Acidic DJ). She spent a year living in USA in 2004. She returned to Russia in 2006 to continue her music career at her home country.
http://www.zimbio.com/Oksana+Pochepa/articles/46/Oksana+Mel+Gibson+Girlfriend+62+pics


India on Oksana P.'s Secret Sex Diary
"Gibson's Russian lover maintains sex diary
Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:46


London (ANI): Russian popstar Oksana Pochepa, who claims to be Mel Gibson's
lover, maintains a sex diary to record how often she has slept with guys. The 24-year-old beauty even rates all her men as to how well they satisfied her.

“She once showed me the diary and I could barely believe it,” the Sun quoted a pal as saying. “Sex is the main thing for her,” the pal added.
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/music/international/2009/oksana-maintains-diary-210409.html


Mel and Russian Honey Oksana P.
More from Parasite Rupert Murdoch UK's Piece of Shit Rag "The Sun" on Mel and Oksana P.:
I'm Mel's Russian Doll says Oksana
THIS is the Russian pop singer who last night claimed to be the mystery girl blamed for ending MEL GIBSON's marriage.

Sexy OKSANA POCHEPA, 24, says she has fallen for the 53-year-old actor and hopes their love is "strong and long-lasting".

...

Smitten Oksana, who first hit the Russian charts aged 13, said yesterday: "This is serious and I hope that our union will be real and strong and long-lasting.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/usa/article2377224.ece#ixzz0sVDKKLrq


So heartfelt.

RUSSIANS IN BOSTON :
The Three Oksana's and how Mel met one Oksana in Boston
For a brief and bizarre time a couple of months ago he was linked first to Oksana Kolesnikova, a composer and pianist at LA’s Beverly Hills Hotel, then 24-year-old singer Oksana Pochepa – a woman also know as ‘the shark’ – and finally to Oksana Grigorieva, who emerged as ‘the mystery brunette’ with whom the star was photographed in a clinch on a Costa Rican beach.

In fact, Oksana and Gibson met while he was filming Edge Of Darkness in Boston last August.

She was a regular visitor on set and crew members claim that her visits to Gibson’s trailer would often hold up production.

Gibson was apparently so smitten that he gave Oksana a part as an extra – she appears as an orderly during some hospital scenes.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1176755/Oksana-Grigorievas-road-Mel-From-Russian-poverty-Hollywood-royalty-embittered-British-husband-Bond-actor.html#ixzz0sV7eTSDZ


Mel Gibson's Edge of Darkness was filmed in Cambridge Boston
This just in, for all of you that'd like to check out the filming site for Edge of Darkness today - 10/1, I've been informed that they're going to be filming at the following location:

Filming on Coolidge Hill Ave in Cambridge tomorrow Wednesday, October 1.
http://www.beantownbloggery.com/2008/10/edge-of-darkness-filming-site-101.html


Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - Mel Gibson in Cambridge, heading to Northampton
Sightings of Mel Gibson, currently in Boston filming "Edge of Darkness," have been pouring in to Loaded Gun today.

The flick, a thriller about a cop who investigates the murder of his protester daughter, has taken over Coolidge Hill Road as well as the front gates of the Mount Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge.
http://www.loadedgunboston.com/2008/10/mel-gibson-in-cambridge-heading-to.html


Russian Spies in Cambridge,Boston
BOSTON -- A Cambridge man and woman were among 10 Russian intelligence officers arrested on suspicion of serving as illegal agents of the Russian government in the United States.

Donald Howard Heathfield and Tracey Lee Ann Foley, of Cambridge, were among those arrested Sunday and accused of carrying out long-term, deep cover assignments in the United States on behalf of Russia.
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/24072324/detail.html


The Boston Based Russian Spies Moved to Cambridge in 1999
The Russians next door: A 'sexy' (alleged) spy to 'great tenants'?
The “Boston Conspirators,” as the FBI dubbed them, identified themselves as French-Canadian when they came to the U.S. in 1999. Heathfield received a master’s from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government in 2000 and worked as a consultant for a Cambridge-based consulting firm called Global Partners Inc. – a job that allegedly enabled him to contact a former high-ranking U.S. government national security official.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37997994/ns/us_news-security



Russian Honey(or Honeypot?) Anna Chapman

2001 Again
Alex Chapman, 30, who was married to Anna for four years, said yesterday he was questioned by a security service agent on Wednesday about his ex-wife. The trainee psychologist said he had met his wife at a party in London in 2001 and married five months later in Moscow. They divorced in 2006 but remained in contact.
http://digitalgroup.info/wordpress/?p=20554


THE FBI, TURKEY, AND SPIES IN AMERICA

Paymaster allowed to getaway in Turkey
Metsos, the apparent Paymaster(Provocatuer?) of this group of Russian busted spies apparently headed for Turkey where the local Turkish authories fumbled the ball and allowed Metsos to escape(Where have we seen that before?). Kind of like how the American FBI allowed those Turkish spies Sibel Edmonds blew the whistle on to skip the country. And like how Bush allowed Bin Laden to escape Tora Bora. No surprise(The American Far Right wants to see America destroyed so they can remake it). Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds has been telling us the U.S. government is penetrated through and through by spies and no one in the government will do anything about it. And that the FBI was penetrated by Turkish spies pre-911 and those spies were allowed to skip the country by what must be compromised Toe Sucking Moles embedded in the FBI itself. A compromised FBI might explain why Russian spies have been allowed to run around the USA for TEN WHOLE FUCKING YEARS(since 2001).

Cyprus hunts for alleged Russian spy paymaster
Greek Cypriot police examined surveillance video from crossing points on the war-divided island, fearing the suspect may have slipped into the Turkish Cypriot north, a diplomatic no-man's land recognized only by Turkey.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/07/01/cyprus_hunts_for_alleged_russian_spy_paymaster/


Sibel Edmonds gets the Cold Shoulder for Reporting there are Turkish Spies in the FBI

This French film documents the cold, crass efforts by officials in the U.S. to bring down Sibel Edmonds, an American of Iranian and Turkish origin who was hired by the FBI as a translator after Sept. 11, 2001. Reporting the possible infiltration of Turkish spies turns her life upside down: she is interrogated, fired, and subjected to a relentless campaign of intimidation. Edmonds doesn't back down as she takes her fight to Congress, the 9/11 Commission, the media, and the Supreme Court. Saturday, May 31 at 9 p.m. at Pacific Cinémathèque.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastlife/story.html?id=cf698f8e-6dd4-4425-8004-b7b620001638


FBI Can Identity 9/11 Hijackers instantly but takes 7-10 years to wrap up a Russian Spy Ring they Are Watching. WTF is going on?
At least seven years ago, An FBI began its investigation which ended with the arrest of 10 people in Yonkers, Boston and northern Virginia on Sunday. The documents detailed what the authorities called the “Illegals Program,” an ambitious, long-term effort by the S.V.R., the successor to the Soviet K.G.B., to plant Russian spies in the United States to collect information and recruit more agents.
http://today24news.com/breaking/10-russian-spies-arrested-by-fbi-from-us-291348


Is it just me or does this all begin to explain why American politicians are unable to do anything for American interests anymore. Why BP runs around fucking up the Gulf while Republicans cheer them on and Democrats pull their pants down to their ankles and beg for more. Apparently "they" whoever they are, have our politicians by the balls.


Picture of Young Honey Oksana Pochepa from the Russian Times Online
after an apparent Recording Session with American politicians
and celebrities
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:55 AM
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35. National Blackmail Rags say Oprah was a Teen Prostitute
it seems the blackmail rags have declared war on American celebrities. Mel Gibson, Al Gore and now Oprah Winfrey are under attack. (You will note that this is occurring simultaneously with the wikileaks document leak that spells out what I have been posting about here all, along, foreign countries have intentionally trapped the USA in Afghanistan and are fighting against us while they take billions of American money

This story surfaced April 13th 2010 right in the days before British Pretroluem's Gulf Oil spill disaster. The NYP is part of Australian-American Rupert Murdoch's race war propaganda organ "News Corporation."

From the New York Post:
Lesbian flings, prostitution & abuse lies: Oprah's 'hidden' life
As a teen, Winfrey was a wild child, promiscuous to the point of prostitution, her relatives said.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pulling_back_the_curtain_on_oprah_o8pmz6I4T3lZ8san4GHvlN/0


You may remember the Enquirer just happened to be right about John Edwards:

I’m not sure what beef The National Enquirer has with Oprah Winfrey, but today they’re claiming she had a secret life as a teenage prostitute. Oprah is apparently worried that the secrets will come out when the tell-all Oprah: A Biography gets made into a miniseries. A source says, “Oprah is reeling at the thought that her dirtiest secrets might soon be acted out night after night on TV. She is marshaling all her influence and cast fortune to prevent any of the allegations from leaking out.” The tabloid claims that while Oprah has said that she got pregnant at 14 after being sexually abused by a relative, a family insider said, “Oprah ‘dated’ men-as she called it-but she was actually having sex in exchange for money. She was a prostitute—period ... While her mother, Vernita Lee, was at work, Oprah brought men home for sex… Oprah got from $2 to $4 from her ‘dates.’” Oprah’s half-sister Patricia confirmed, “Whenever a guy arrived at our door, Oprah would give Popsicles to me and Jeffrey and say, ‘You two go out on the porch and play now.’” Oprah got pregnant after about a year of “dating” and had the premature baby when she was 15 years old, but the baby died about a month later and Oprah’s allegedly been lying about it ever since, even signing a Miss Black Nashville pageant form, saying she’d “never conceived a child.”
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-tabloid-cheat-sheet-072110/


Al-Gore : Hump Hound
"Police are investigating charges from two more women who claim they were sexually assaulted by former Vice President Al Gore, The National Enquirer reports. Last month the bombshell dropped that Gore allegedly assaulted Portland, Oregon, massage therapist Molly Hagerty in his upscale hotel room in 2006. Now the Enquirer claims two more massage therapists fended off advances from the big cheese. One source alleges Gore hired a masseuse at a Beverly Hills luxury hotel in 2007 when he was in town for the Academy Awards, removed his towel, revealing his naked body and erect penis, and told her, “Take care of this!” (Oh, the imagery!) The other incident allegedly took place at a hotel in Tokyo one year later, although no further details are provided."
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-al-gore-faces-sexual-assault-claims-by-two-more-women/


It may just be that these stories are meant to distract from major stories like this one from Australian Wikileaks founder Julian Assange :
WikiLeaks says evidence of war crimes in documents
WikiLeaks founder says evidence of war crimes in 91,000 leaked Afghanistan documents.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says the release of U.S. military documents relating to the war in Afghanistan is like opening the files of East Germany's secret Stasi police. He says there appears to be evidence of war crimes in the leaked documents.

The online whistle-blower WikiLeaks on Sunday posted some 91,000 leaked U.S. military records of six years of the war, including unreported incidents of Afghan civilian killings and covert operations against Taliban figures.

Assange told reporters Monday "it is up to a court to decide really if something in the end is a crime. That said ... there does appear to be evidence of war crimes."

He said what's been reported so far has "only scratched the surface."
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0726/wikileaks-evidence-war-crimes-documents/


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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 03:56 AM
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36. Oprah Winfrey Teen Prostitute Distraction and How the USA has been Setup Soviet Style in Afghanistan
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 04:44 AM by CrunchMaster
Ignore the post above. Read this one instead. Can't edit the one above anymore...

it seems the blackmail rags have declared war on American celebrities. Mel Gibson, Al Gore and now Oprah Winfrey are under attack. (You will note that this is occurring simultaneously with the wikileaks document leak that spells out what I have been posting about here all, along, foreign countries have intentionally trapped the USA in Afghanistan and are fighting against us while they take billions of American dollars. That is the foreign enemy. The documents reveal that Pakistan's ISI is coordinating with the "terrorists" the U.S. is fighting. So the USA sends billions to Pakistan which uses those billions to create terrorists and prop themselves up. Nice little scam going on there don't you think? On the domestic side Republicans(and it seems Obama now too) continue to lie to the American people so this phoney war on terror can rake in big bucks for corporations and contractors and pull off Republican wet dreams of crashing the U.S. Federal government. So essentially like I have been saying all along, right wingers and foreigners are collaborating to wreck the United States. The Wikileaks documents are proof of the foreign side of this equation. (just waiting now for the other American shoe to drop)

Just go reread this thread for evidence that right wing Americans and foreigners like the Saudis and Pakistan have been collaborating to hype terror(see Jihad Jane and her overseas ties to Pakistan and her role in creating patsies).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=274634

In fact go to this thread below where I lay out how the CIA, Pakistan ISI and Saudi Intelligence created the original 1979 trap to get the Soviets stuck in Afghanistan. And how Pakistan played a role in creating terrorists like Al-Fuqra in the USA and Canada. And how in the USA these Pakistan created terrorists took root in the same rightwing states that to this very goddamn day continue to spawn these faux terrorists that they use to justify another goddamn war. The game being played here is simple for those paying attention:

TOO KEEP AMERICANS DUMBED DOWN AND SCARED AND SHITTING THEIR PANTS IN FEAR SO THAT RIGHTWINGERS CAN CONTINUE GOBBLING UP U.S. DOLLARS AT HOME AND FOREIGN RESOURCES ABROAD IN THEIR FUCKING NEVER ENDING WARS AGAINST ENEMIES THEY AND THEIR BUDDIES ABROAD CREATED
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x274634#278144

Latest Media Distraction as the Truth about how we got Duped into Afghanistan Emerges : Oprah was a Teenage Prostitute
This story surfaced April 13th 2010 right in the days before British Pretroluem's Gulf Oil spill disaster and comes courtesy of RUPERT MURDEROCH'S RACE BAITING WAR PROPAGANDA AND DISTRACTIONS MACHINE "News Corporation."

From the New York Post:
Lesbian flings, prostitution & abuse lies: Oprah's 'hidden' life
As a teen, Winfrey was a wild child, promiscuous to the point of prostitution, her relatives said.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pulling_back_the_curtain_on_oprah_o8pmz6I4T3lZ8san4GHvlN/0


You may remember the Enquirer just happened to be right about John Edwards:

I’m not sure what beef The National Enquirer has with Oprah Winfrey, but today they’re claiming she had a secret life as a teenage prostitute. Oprah is apparently worried that the secrets will come out when the tell-all Oprah: A Biography gets made into a miniseries. A source says, “Oprah is reeling at the thought that her dirtiest secrets might soon be acted out night after night on TV. She is marshaling all her influence and cast fortune to prevent any of the allegations from leaking out.” The tabloid claims that while Oprah has said that she got pregnant at 14 after being sexually abused by a relative, a family insider said, “Oprah ‘dated’ men-as she called it-but she was actually having sex in exchange for money. She was a prostitute—period ... While her mother, Vernita Lee, was at work, Oprah brought men home for sex… Oprah got from $2 to $4 from her ‘dates.’” Oprah’s half-sister Patricia confirmed, “Whenever a guy arrived at our door, Oprah would give Popsicles to me and Jeffrey and say, ‘You two go out on the porch and play now.’” Oprah got pregnant after about a year of “dating” and had the premature baby when she was 15 years old, but the baby died about a month later and Oprah’s allegedly been lying about it ever since, even signing a Miss Black Nashville pageant form, saying she’d “never conceived a child.”
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-tabloid-cheat-sheet-072110/


Al-Gore : Hump Hound
"Police are investigating charges from two more women who claim they were sexually assaulted by former Vice President Al Gore, The National Enquirer reports. Last month the bombshell dropped that Gore allegedly assaulted Portland, Oregon, massage therapist Molly Hagerty in his upscale hotel room in 2006. Now the Enquirer claims two more massage therapists fended off advances from the big cheese. One source alleges Gore hired a masseuse at a Beverly Hills luxury hotel in 2007 when he was in town for the Academy Awards, removed his towel, revealing his naked body and erect penis, and told her, “Take care of this!” (Oh, the imagery!) The other incident allegedly took place at a hotel in Tokyo one year later, although no further details are provided."
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-al-gore-faces-sexual-assault-claims-by-two-more-women/


It may just be that these stories are meant to distract from major stories like this one from Australian Wikileaks founder Julian Assange :
WikiLeaks says evidence of war crimes in documents
WikiLeaks founder says evidence of war crimes in 91,000 leaked Afghanistan documents.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says the release of U.S. military documents relating to the war in Afghanistan is like opening the files of East Germany's secret Stasi police. He says there appears to be evidence of war crimes in the leaked documents.

The online whistle-blower WikiLeaks on Sunday posted some 91,000 leaked U.S. military records of six years of the war, including unreported incidents of Afghan civilian killings and covert operations against Taliban figures.

Assange told reporters Monday "it is up to a court to decide really if something in the end is a crime. That said ... there does appear to be evidence of war crimes."

He said what's been reported so far has "only scratched the surface."
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0726/wikileaks-evidence-war-crimes-documents/


MORE AMERICAN MONEY TO FUND THE GUYS SHOOTING US
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton announces billions more in Aid to Pakistan so Pakistan can prop up the corrupt ISI and the ISI can give paychecks to patsies so the USA can keep blowing all of its national treasure for the benefit of foreigners who are trying to tank the USA in Afghanistan like the USA tanked the Soviets:
07/19/10 : Pakistan Aid: Hillary Clinton Announces $7.5 Billion Aid Effort For Pakistan
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/19/pakistan-aid-hillary-clin_n_650776.html

How Pakistan's ISI which we send money to, funds the enemy we are fighting
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/wikileaks-documents-show-isi-pakistan-intelligence-helped-afghanistan/story?id=11250487


Pakistan’s Double Game
There is a lot to be disturbed by in the battlefield reports from Afghanistan released Sunday by WikiLeaks. The close-up details of war are always unsettling, even more so with this war, which was so badly neglected and bungled by President George W. Bush.

But the most alarming of the reports were the ones that described the cynical collusion between Pakistan’s military intelligence service and the Taliban. Despite the billions of dollars the United States has sent in aid to Pakistan since Sept. 11, they offer powerful new evidence that crucial elements of Islamabad’s power structure have been actively helping to direct and support the forces attacking the American-led military coalition."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/opinion/27tue1.html


WikiLeaks Data Seem to Show Pakistan Helped Attack American Troops
Documents Accuse ISI, Pakistan's Intelligence Service, Of Aiding Insurgency; Senior ISI Official Dismisses Leaks
"Perhaps the single most damming collection of data in a massive trove of secret documents from Afghanistan released by the website WikiLeaks is some 180 files that seem to show Pakistan's premiere intelligence service, the ISI, helping the Afghan insurgency attack American troops."

The United States provides more than a billion dollars to Pakistan each year for help in fighting terrorism, but the papers seem to link the ISI with major Afghan insurgent commanders; claim its representatives meet directly with the Taliban; accuse the agency of training suicide bombers; and indicts Pakistani intelligence officials on hatching up sensational ways to assassinate Afghan president Hamid Karzai and even poison the beer drunk by Americans in Afghanistan."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/wikileaks-documents-show-isi-pakistan-intelligence-helped-afghanistan/story?id=11250487


This war is a charade. It is designed to go on forever. You can never win a war when you are paying your "ally" to create the enemy you fight
On a trip to Pakistan last October, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton suggested that officials in the Pakistani government knew where Al Qaeda leaders were hiding. Gen. David Petraeus, the new top military commander in Afghanistan, recently acknowledged longstanding ties between Pakistan’s Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, known as the ISI, and the “bad guys.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/opinion/27tue1.html


Meanwhile, the silly CIA got played by an Iranian double agent based out of Turkey, although apparently the CIA can't agree on whether or not the guy was a double agent.. Turkey BTW is where the ringleader of the recent busted Russians spies fled to unstopped by all involved
That made the CIA dependent on recruitment and "walk-ins" outside Iran. Amiri was a "walk-in" who appeared in Turkey to volunteer to work for US intelligence, according to Giraldi’s CIA sources. Turkey has been the main location for Iranian walk-ins, according to Charles S. Faddis, a 20-year veteran of CIA operations until his retirement in 2008, who conducted operations in both the Middle East and southwest Asia.

Turkey is also a place where Iran has a very active intelligence presence, according to Francona, and the Iranians "have tended to dangle targets in Turkey" in the past.

Faddis told me that Turkey would have been the right place for Iranian intelligence to offer a "dangle" to US intelligence, because the US had recruited people there before. "If this guy was walked in by the Iranians they would do it in a place that smells correct to us," said Faddis.
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0726/overeager-cia-fall-iranian-double-agent/


What is the CIA covering up about this Iranian? They are definitely covering something up. Or to be more precise SOMEONE or SOME GROUP in the CIA is covering up the full story about why they were fucking around with an Iranian who for all intents and purpose was clearly working for Iranian intelligence...
A major question mark about the Amiri case surrounds his "defection" to the United States after some unidentified period during which he was reporting to a US case officer, according to Giraldi. US officials have been quoted as saying that there were indications that he was in danger of being discovered and that the agency urged him to leave Iran for his own safety.

The normal procedure under those circumstances would be to bring Amiri’s wife and young son out, so that he would not be vulnerable to government pressures inherent in their remaining behind. But US officials have told reporters that Amiri chose to leave his family behind when he left Iran, using a Hajj in Saudi Arabia as the excuse. That should have been a danger signal about Amiri, according to Francona. "That’s the first thing defectors ask for – get my family out. That’s a big red flag."

Faddis said it would have been "exceedingly unusual, in my experience bringing people out," to have left the rest of the family in Iran. The only circumstances in which the agency would bring out an agent without his family, Faddis said, is as a "last resort – because it’s going to cause massive problems."
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0726/overeager-cia-fall-iranian-double-agent/


If I was going to guess, I might wonder if what we are seeing here is a back channel arrangement with some in American intelligence with Iranian exiles itching to get the U.S.A. involved with doing the dirty work of disposing of their dictators... certain Iranian elites(historically) and U.S. Republican war crazies would probably both be onboard for that. Saudi Arabia, Israel, Pakistan, any of them would just love to see a neighbor on their borders being weakened by the USA. Remember Iran-Contra? Remember Michael Ledeen? Remember the Pentagon backchannel in 2001? Remember Ledeen's meeting in Italy with Iranians in 2001?

Iran-Contra II?
Fresh scrutiny on a rogue Pentagon operation.

The first meeting occurred in Rome in December, 2001. It included Franklin, Rhode, and another American, the neoconservative writer and operative Michael Ledeen, who organized the meeting. (According to UPI, Ledeen was then working for Feith as a consultant.) Also in attendance was Ghorbanifar and a number of other Iranians. One of the Iranians, according to two sources familiar with the meeting, was a former senior member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard who claimed to have information about dissident ranks within the Iranian security services. The Washington Monthly has also learned from U.S. government sources that Nicolo Pollari, the head of Italy's military intelligence agency, SISMI, attended the meetings, as did the Italian Minister of Defense Antonio Martino, who is well-known in neoconservative circles in Washington."
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0410.marshallrozen.html


Pathological Liar and Disinformation Specialist Larry Johnson says that the dumb old CIA got suckered by Iranian intelligence. Just like bumbling dumb ol' CIA let terrorists into the USA to attack America on 9/11 and Dumb ol' CIA was powerless to stop them. Dumb ol' CIA my ass. Obama should shake the living fuck out of the CIA until all of the Reagan/Bush/Cheney era Iran/Contra criminals fall out of their rat holes.

Larry Johnson, a former CIA and State Department counter-terrorism official, commented on his blog "No Quarter" last week, "At this point, it looks like was a dangle that CIA swallowed hook, line and sinker." Johnson pointed to the anomaly that Iranian authorities had allowed Amiri to travel alone to Saudi Arabia.
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0726/overeager-cia-fall-iranian-double-agent/


If the CIA is really so chock full of idiots who do nothing but fuck up? Why do we still pay these guys to collect intelligence? As I said, Larry Limited Hangout Johnson is most likely blowing smoke.

None of this looks good at all. Obama better make up his fuckin' mind because history is writing this story fast and so far it doesn't look pretty for him or us. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS BEEN LURED INTO AFGHANISTAN BY AMERICAN RIGHTWING WAR LOVING LUNATICS AND FOREIGN AGENTS. BOTH PROFIT OFF OF KEEPING US STUCK THERE. And Obama better hurry and decide if he is going to be the next FDR or the next Bush Cheney Iran-Contra Style War Criminal?
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-14-10 04:51 AM
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22. Sibel Edmonds in Hustler Magazine : The Traitors Among Us
Edited on Sun Feb-14-10 04:52 AM by CrunchMaster
I find it interesting that she is using Hustler Magazine in an attempt to get out her message. I am not sure how she believes Hustler magazine can possibly help her cause. It's not like anyone is actually ever going to READ that article. Interesting choice of media regardless. She must have her reasons which sometimes I honestly have to wonder about. But another reminder on how American politicians are bought off, blackmailed or compromised in some way and selling off the country for their own personal gain(or under duress) can never be a bad thing i suppose, even if it comes from Hustler magazine.

"The article brings the story of Edmonds, who was twice-gagged by the Bush Administration's outrageous use/abuse of the "States Secrets Privilege," fully up to date following her naming of names, finally, under oath, in remarkable testimony last summer. (Some of those names: Hastert, Burton, Blunt, Lantos, Schakowsky, Wolfowitz, Perle, Grossman, etc.)

The Hustler piece, "Sibel Edmonds: The Traitors Among Us," also explores reasons for the perhaps-even-more-remarkable complete avoidance of her 4-hour, detailed, video-taped testimony by the corporate media (Pat Buchanan's American Conservative magazine excepted, if you consider them to be "corporate media") concerning allegations of blackmail of sitting U.S. Congressmembers, the theft and sale of nuclear secrets to the foreign blackmarket, and other allegations of treasonous activities by top State and Defense Department officials over the last decade or more, as we have covered in great detail here at The BRAD BLOG over the years, as the story has unfolded."
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7688






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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:44 PM
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29. FBI docs prove pre-9/11 investigations against Turkish mafia in Chicago...ah...now i get it
Edited on Thu Mar-18-10 12:52 PM by CrunchMaster
We are never going to really find out who sent anthrax to democrats and the media. We are never going to find out why the FBI had informants watching the 9/11 hijackers but weren't able to stop 9/11.

But we are going to get revelations about Turkish mafia in Obamatown Chicago. Now you might understand why Sibel Edmonds is being courted by Pat Buchanan's "The American Conversative" magazine.

The Chicago Angle (ie. The Obama Angle)
Official Documents Confirm Major Criminal Investigations of Turkish Operatives in Chicago
Recently released FBI documents prove the existence of highly sensitive National Security and criminal investigations of “Turkish Activities” in Chicago prior to September 11, 2001. These documents add further support to many of the allegations that former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds....

...

The earliest document is a November 1999 EC from the FBI’s National Security Division (NS-2D) to FBI field offices in Chicago, Washington DC, Los Angeles and New York (although there is a reference to a September 1999 EC from NSD.) The timing is significant. In an article in The American Conservative by Phil Giraldi, Ms. Edmonds notes that although there were investigations into Turkish activity dating back to 1996, most of that activity was being monitored by Counter-Intelligence based on FISA warrants because the main targets were foreigners, however in 1999 investigations were opened into ‘US Persons‘ and “they wiretapped the congressmen directly.”
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2010/03/17/official-documents-confirm-major-criminal-investigations-of-turkish-operatives-in-chicago/


Here it comes!

The Hillary Clinton Angle : That's a pic of Hillary with implicated Turkish mafioso Celebi




President of TACA at that meeting. Ms. Edmonds has previously referred to Celebi as a key player in the Turkish mafia in the US, noting that the Celebi family is involved in arms and heroin trafficking. Celebi was also Vice-President of the Assembly of Turkish-American Associations (ATAA), another organization named by Ms. Edmonds and others as being involved in various criminal activities.

In 2008, Celebi briefly received some attention when he was key fundraiser for Hillary Clinton, and was nominated as one of Clinton’s Chicago delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. He was eventually kicked out of the Clinton campaign because of the scrutiny.
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2010/03/17/official-documents-confirm-major-criminal-investigations-of-turkish-operatives-in-chicago/


Sibel Edmonds goes after both Democratics and Republicans. But there is still something a bit off to me about her association to Pat Buchanan's American Conservative magazine and her decision to publish important whistle blower information in Hustler Magazine of all places.

The Dennis Hastert/Chicago Angle(Hastert is Republican)
Famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg once said that “Sibel says that suitcases of cash have been delivered to the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, at his home, near Chicago, from Turkish sources, knowing that a lot of that is drug money.”

The aforementioned Vanity Fair article, apparently trying to dodge some potential legal liability, suggested that “the reported content of the Chicago wiretaps may well have been sheer bravado, and there is no evidence that any payment was ever made to Hastert,” however a July 2001 EC regarding the “Statistical Accomplishments” of the TACA case notes that there were thirteen separate instances of actual ‘Physical Surveillance’ in the TACA case alone, suggesting that the FBI may very well have first-hand evidence of some of these crimes.
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2010/03/17/official-documents-confirm-major-criminal-investigations-of-turkish-operatives-in-chicago/


Sibel Edmond's take on all this?

CHICAGO is the CENTER of it all

Really? Chicago politicians are dirty. But Chicago is at the center of all of this stuff she has been talking about???

Asked to comment on these new documents, Ms. Edmonds replied:

“Finally! I’ve been saying this for years, and now we finally have documented proof from the FBI of this Turkish criminal activity based in Chicago.

This is fantastic, but even this is only the tip of the iceberg. The main question is this: Why has the White House and the State Dept been so determined to shut these investigations down? They shut down these investigations at the FBI, they shut me down with the State Secrets Privilege.

What are they hiding? Chicago was the center of it all, Chicago was the center of the foreign espionage activity, and the center for money laundering, and also a major heroin distribution center. Celebi was a key player, but Dennis Hastert, Mayor Daley, Robert Creamer and other US officials also helped facilitate these activities. When will we see some accountability?“
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2010/03/17/official-documents-confirm-major-criminal-investigations-of-turkish-operatives-in-chicago/


As a former employee of the FBI, has Sibel Edmonds ever mentioned anything regarding the FBI's use of informants following the 9/11 hijackers pre-9/11?

Here is a comment by Sibel Edmonds on agent provocateur Ali Mohammad's ties to the FBI and CIA. She downplays his FBI ties in favor of his CIA ties.


""Sibel Edmonds Says:

@Metem: I think that’s a very good point. Personally, I tend to lean towards ‘our man’ Ali Mohamed, rather than, we were fooled. Again, I don’t think this angle includes FBI…But the CIA? Come on, he was the guy who was fighting against the Soviet in Afghanistan: we nurtured, funded, trained…those people."
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2009/11/29/fort-hood-the-ksm-trial-part-i-what-do-these-terrorism-stories-have-in-common/


Here is another take on double agent and terrorist Ali Mohamed and his ties to the FBI and the CIA:

Al Qaeda terrorist Ali Mohammad worked with FBI
Ex-Silicon Valley resident plotted embassy attacks
Ali Mohamed, an Egyptian-born U.S. citizen and longtime Silicon Valley resident who pleaded guilty last year to terrorism charges, approached the Central Intelligence Agency more than 15 years ago and offered to inform on Middle Eastern terrorist groups, a U.S. government official said.

Later, according to the sources, Mohamed spent years as an FBI informant while concealing his own deep involvement in the al Qaeda terrorist band: training bin Laden's bodyguards and Islamic guerrillas in camps in Afghanistan and the Sudan; bringing Ayman al-Zawahiri, who is bin Laden's chief deputy, to the Bay Area on a covert fund-raising mission; and planning the 1998 bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, in which more than 200 people died.

The story of Mohamed's dual roles as FBI informant and bin Laden terrorist - - and the freedom he had to operate unchecked in the United States -- illustrates the problems facing U.S. intelligence services as they attempt to penetrate the shadowy, close-knit world of al Qaeda, experts said.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/11/04/MN117081.DTL


On how the FBI willingly chose to use unreliable double agent Ali Mohammad as an informant
Johnson said the CIA had found Mohamed unreliable and severed its relationship with him shortly after Mohamed approached the agency in 1984. Johnson faulted the FBI for later using Mohamed as an informant, saying the bureau should have recognized that the man was a high-ranking terrorist, deeply involved in plotting violence against the United States and its allies.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/11/04/MN117081.DTL


The CIA cut off contact with Mohamed and put his name on a "watch list" aimed at blocking his entrance to the United States, according to the official.

Nevertheless, Mohamed got a visa one year later. He ultimately became a U.S. citizen after marrying a Santa Clara woman. In 1986, he joined the U.S. Army as an enlisted man. He was posted to Fort Bragg, N.C., home of the elite Special Forces.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/11/04/MN117081.DTL


Fort Bragg Special Forces/KKK + FBI Informant Ties to the Oklahoma City Bombing
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JZS/is_24_21/ai_n25119794/pg_3/
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JZS/is_24_21/ai_n25119794/

More here from Hustler Magazine's own Larry Flynt:
http://larryflynt.com/?p=693

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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 04:45 AM
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56. Sibel Edmonds Teams Up with "JewsDidIt" Gang at VeteransToday.com
Edited on Tue Dec-28-10 05:42 AM by CrunchMaster
It's seems Sibel Edmonds may have been flying false colors all along. She is not Progressive. And she is not Leftwing. Your first clue may have been when she went to Pat Buchanan's American Conservative magazine.

Apparently it wasn't discrediting enough to use Hustler Magazine to get her message out. Now she is teaming up with the JewsDidIt crowd at Veteran's Today.

Sibel Edmonds, Former FBI Language Specialist and Whistleblower, Joins Veterans Today Staff Writing Team
www.peapolzmedia.com/category/foreign-affairs/


But that is not all.... VT has also allied itself with a Pakistani ISI head:

Veterans Today is pleased to announce the appointment of Lt. General Hamid Gul, former head of Pakistan’s ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence), to its Editorial Board of Directors, joining, among others, Jeff Gates, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, Col. Jim Hanke, Gordon Duff, Khalil Nouri and Col. Eugene Khrushchev...
www.peapolzmedia.com/category/foreign-affairs/


So this AMERICAN Gordon Duff is working with an ex Pakistani ISI chief? Ok. That seems fishy but maybe it really isn't fishy. What do we know about Lt. General Hamid Gul?

Turning Against America
General Gul worked closely with the CIA during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan when he was the ISI chief. But, he became passionately anti-American after the United States turned its back on Afghanistan following the 1989 Soviet withdrawal, as the United States had promised to help build a prosperous Afghanistan.<8> He was further disconcerted when the USA began punishing Pakistan with economic and military sanctions for its secret nuclear program. General Gul then went on to declare that "the Muslim world must stand united to confront the U.S. in its so-called War on Terrorism, which is in reality a war against Muslims. Let's destroy America wherever its troops are trapped."<10>

General Gul personally met Osama Bin Laden in 1993 and refused to label him a terrorist unless and until irrefutable evidence was provided linking him to alleged acts of terrorism.<11>

Accusation of US and Israel behind 9/11
Only days after the September 11 attacks he stated that they were clearly an inside job. <12> That interview was not published by newspapers.<13>

Post-Army career
Solidarity with Osama bin Laden

According to Zahid Hussain, in his book Frontline Pakistan, Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul and former Army chief General Mirza Aslam Beg were part of the 9 January 2001 Darul Uloom Haqqania Islamic conference held near Peshawar, which was also attended by 300 leaders representing various Islamic groups. The meeting declared it a religious duty of Muslims all over the world to protect the Taliban government, and the Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden it was hosting, whom they considered as a 'great Muslim warrior.'<14>

...

Accusation by Benazir Bhutto
Days after the 2007 Karachi bombings, Benazir Bhutto in a letter to President Musharaf written on 16 October 2007 named Hamid Gul as one of the four persons including the current Intelligence Bureau (IB) Chief Ijaz Shah, the then chief minister of Punjab Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi, then chief minister of Sindh Arbab Ghulam Rahim, she suspected were behind the attacks.<17> Gul responded furiously to these claims. He was arrested on November 4 by the Military police in Islamabad during President Pervez Musharraf's declared state of emergency.<18>

Terrorism Charges
He has acknowledged being a member of banned militant organization Ummah Tameer-e-Nau.<19> The United States government has included Hamid Gul's name in a list of 4 former ISI officers for inclusion in the list of international terrorists that was sent to UN Secretary General, but China refused.<20>

Gul has been informed by a senior official in Pakistan's Foreign Ministry that he had been placed on a U.S. watch list of global terrorists, along with several others. He was shown a U.S. document that detailed several charges against him, including allegations that he had ties to al-Qaeda and the Taliban.<3>

On December 14, 2008 President of Pakistan Asif Ali Zardari in an interview with Newsweek described Hamid Gul as a political ideologue of terror.<21>

In July 2010, Wikileaks released over 92,000 documents related to the war in Afghanistan between 2004 and the end of 2009. In those documents Gul was accused of backing Taliban Insurgency against western forces to destroy the U.S. effort to create peace in Afghanistan.<22>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Hamid_Gul


Yeah, it's fishy,.

An Anti-American Pakistani ex-ISI chief apparently on the USA terror watchlist(Gul), a Russian Colonel(Khrushchev), a Turkish-Iranian(Edmonds) an Afghan politician(Nouri), ex Special Forces(Hanke), a U.S. Army War College Guy(Sabrosky) and mystery man Gordon Duff join up to publish a bunch of "JewsDidit" articles and other half-baked disinformation. This stinks to high heaven. This really, really stinks. Something is not right with this picture.

Interesting friends Sibel and Gordon keep.

Pakistan wired alleged Egyptian 9/11 Hijacker Mohammed Atta money. A bunch of guys that were mostly Saudis flew the planes. The U.S. military decided to setup a Trojan horse situation on 9/11 where real attacks were flown during similar training attacks. And the operation was planned in places like Germany, Florida, and Oklahoma and reeks of the same old Muslim Brotherhood and Neo-Nazi provocateuring we have seen in other attacks on the USA. Did I mention already the Raytheon and Army Able Danger Data Mining project going on in Garland Texas? Why would Raytheon(maker of the Remote Control Global Hawk) and Army Able Danger(who allegedly spied on the 9/11 hijackers who allegedly took control of the planes) be all secretly shacking up in Garland, Texas? Considering these connections, is it any wonder then that an America hating Pakistan ISI head, and some U.S. Army and Special Forces guys, and ex-Soviet military...all seemingly having some US vs. Soviet Afghan war baggage, some with actual terrorism ties, all happen to come together to repeatedly blame any and all shady terrorism operations in the world on "THE JEWS?" I think someone DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH, METHINKS!?

Here's another shady character tied to veteranstoday.com:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_D._Siljander

He lives in Michigan where Underwear Bomber Boy flew a bomb in his panties while terra war players from Pennsylvania, India and the Netherlands(some of those same constituencies involved in a geostrategic resource and land grab clusterfuck in the middle-east, WINK WINK) all watched.

What is Siljander notable for?
Mark Deli Siljander (born June 11, 1951) is a former Republican U.S. Representative and deputy United Nations ambassador from the state of Michigan who was convicted of obstruction of justice and acting as an unregistered foreign agent related to his work for an Islamic charity with ties to international terrorism. Siljander pleaded guilty to the charges in Federal court on July 7, 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_D._Siljander


That's one Veteran's Today guy too many connected to shady operators in my book. Why is Sibel taking her message to this questionable source?

My first guess is that VT is a type of COINTELPRO operation, or HONEYTRAP meant to lure in Truthseekers, smear them up with anti-semitism and make them sympathetic to things outside of the American mainstream(like RussiaToday.com and Iranian PressTV). In effect they are a lure to publish controversial ideas and then steer antiwar types, lefties and progressives directly into the arms of suspect sources like RT.com and Iranian pressTV. The obvious effect is to discredit the left. aka COINTELPRO. VT's other role is to shift blame of all shady terror related things on to Israel although the evidence shows much of it is coming from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and internally in the USA from FBI entrapped patsies. Hmmm.

The War on Terror is Sham. There is a desperate need by some to redirect American eyes off of the perps and onto scapegoats. It doesn't help the American War-O-Philes any for Americans to constantly be reminded that their tax dollars are being used to fund the same terrorists that Americans are blowing the heads off of. And this is where WikiLeaks seems to be causing American War-o-Philes to shit their pants. The gig is up. It is becoming common knowledge that what the War on Terror is, is Theater in which our allies create Terrorists and then American Tax Dollars gets soaked up sending American soldiers to go blow the brains out of patsy dumbasses unfortunate enough to be entrapped into being "terrorists" by our co-conspirators in the middle east. That's all this is and it has been repeatedly been shown to be exactly that. :
Manning described the incident which first made him seriously question the U.S. war in Iraq: when he was instructed to work on the case of Iraqi "insurgents" who had been detained for distributing "insurgent" literature which, when he had it translated, turned out to be nothing more than "a scholarly critique against PM Maliki":

i had an interpreter read it for me… and when i found out that it was a benign political critique titled "Where did the money go?" and following the corruption trail within the PM’s cabinet… i immediately took that information and *ran* to the officer to explain what was going on… he didn’t want to hear any of it… he told me to shut up and explain how we could assist the FPs in finding *MORE* detainees…

i had always questioned the things worked, and investigated to find the truth… but that was a point where i was a *part* of something… i was actively involved in something that i was completely against…
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/06/18/wikileaks


Websites like Veterans Today and dubious whistleblowers with shady ties(like to antisemites) may be serving a similar entrapment purpose here at home by spying on, data mining and entrapping American antiwar protestors and lefties and other dissidents in a tightly controlled Limited Hangout where they can be observed. This is a COINTELPRO technique also used by the military against UFO researchers.

If you google around you will find this odd group at VT promoted and/or directly involved with Iranian Press TV, RT.com (RussiaToday) and other "HoneyTraps" IMHO set up to lure in the American political dissidents open to certain ideas. But it is, I believe a trap. Press TV is part and parcel of the Iranian government. Russia Today is likewise part and parcel of the Russian government. Pure and simple. Why would Americans trying to get out a message to Americans get mixed up with these sources which do not hold validity with the American public? Are they stupid or are they a tool or something worse?

Unfortunately you will even find prominent lefty Thom Hartmann sucked into this shit(thru his pimping for RussiaToday). I swear I can look at the front page of DU every other day and see like 4 or 5 Thom Hartmann videos from RussiaToday. But I think it is a given among many that Thom-The-Mafia-Killed-JFK-And-I-Read-Staring-At-Big-Boobs-Makes-You-Live-Longer-Hartmann is an often naive and unwitting tool of Those That Pull The Strings:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Thom-Hartmann-s-book-on-th-by-Jim-Arnold-090713-265.html

RussiaToday also has the odd habit of latching onto American conspiracy theories, publicizing them and therefore getting them all smeared up with a Commie stink whereas the American media ignores them and the American public becomes increasingly divorced from whatever subject got slimed. Do you see what is going on here? The question is why are Americans seemingly playing along???

My personal belief is that there is a concerted effort by foreigners and Americans internally COLLUDING to keep the American mind directed towards more war and continuing to fight in the middle east. Some are making money off of our war in the middle east. Some may be secretly trying to bury us there.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 07:45 PM
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26. 03/11/10 : Harry Reid Announces Consent for Dems to Use Reconciliation, Family In Serious Accident
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 08:07 PM by CrunchMaster
A reminder from the far right nuts destroying the planet in the name of extreme capitalism?

"On the very day he publicly declared consent for the use of reconciliation to pass health reform legislation, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) got the gut-wrenching news that his wife and daughter were in a serious car accident on Interstate 95 in Fairfax, VA."

Mrs. Reid's car was rear-ended by a semi-truck, according to the senator's office. Reports called the accident a "chain-reaction."

http://rawstory.com/2010/03/sen-reids-wife-daughter-car-accident/


Reid formally made this declaration to Republicans today, that's why the timing(which some never seem to see as important) may be of interest.
Reid Formally Notifies Republicans He Will Use Reconciliation to Pass Health Care Bill
"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid formally informed Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell Thursday that he will use the budgetary process of reconciliation to try and pass a final round of changes to the health care bill."
http://www.truthout.org/reid-formally-notifies-republicans-he-will-use-reconciliation-pass-health-care-bill57590


Another one of those odd coincidences that likes to happen to Democrats... like small plane crashes.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 07:49 PM
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27. Let's see....
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 07:49 PM by SDuderstadt
what are you not mentioning?

Oh, yeah...that would be all the other times Harry Reid has made announcements of similar import and his family WASN'T in an accident,.

Seriously, dude...you need to study the concept of "found significance".
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:17 PM
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28. 03/12/10 - Nancy Pelosi " Say Goodbye To The Public Option (Declares PO Dead)"
So Democrats are going to use Reconciliation to push through Health Care Reform with no Public Option? Thanks Democrats for absolutely nothing.

Poster "No Elephants" on this thread seems to have it figured out:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7902553#7902557

"4. OK. It seems Durbin flipped on this bc Pelosi does not have the votes in the House for a PO.

40 Senators sign a letter that is never going to amount to anything, anyway, so they can keep favor with voth Big Health and their voters.

Then news comes out that Durbin is whipping against the PO.

Then he says, though, that he'll whip for it, if it comes out of the House.

Then Pelosi says the House does not have the votes for a PO anymore. (Massa, crazy though he may be, said, with him gone, they can pass health care "reform," no matter what.)

Turn off your cell phones, please--and do enjoy the show.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:05 PM
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40. Didn't know about that one....Wow!! But, obviously only way the right can rise is via violence...
Historically, that has always been true --

from the Vatican's Inquisition to our 50 years of in plein air political violence

by the right wing here in America --

Not to say there wasn't plenty of rw political violence before that -- but this

was very open and very noisy period of assassinations.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 02:43 AM
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30. CIA ties to Tabloid Rags
CIA, the National Enquirer, and Psychological Warfare:
"Pope has a unique vantage on this particular story: The editor in question was his father, Gene Pope, founder of the scandal-mongering tabloid. Gene Pope, meanwhile, happened to have reason to turn toward the CIA. Through family connections, he had dodged the Korean War draft by doing a two-year stint with the agency in psychological warfare.

...

The Web site quoted a former Enquirer staffer who "recalls that his first formal instructions at the Enquirer -- from a helpful peer -- were, ‘Never say anything about the CIA, never say anything about the Mafia and never knock Sofia Loren.’ ”
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/04/exclusive_enquirer_editor_buri.html"


Makes a lot of sense when you consider Rupert "Let's Start A War" Murdoch and mobbed up Berlusconi and how they have had an interest in buying up tabloid rags over the years.

BTW, in the case of John Edwards I almost think it was a completely good thing the Enquirer got into his business and exposed him, otherwise we would have had a sitting president being blackmailed by Republicans or possibly even foreign countries sitting in the oval office.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:22 AM
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31. Keep digging, Crunchy...
you're almost there!
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:41 AM
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32. You forgot the shark attacks...
You must not leave out the sharks :rofl:
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:14 AM
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37. why don't you start your own website?
instead of taking up space here?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:39 AM
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38. l have the perfect name
Incoherentramblings.com
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:10 PM
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41. I often wonder if...
Crunchy is somehow related to the Irish author, James Joyce. There's something about Crunchy's stream-of-consciousness writing style that evokes "Ulyssees".

My suggestion would be disjointednonsense.com.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:51 PM
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43. Tim Osman says let there be war.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 05:59 PM
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44. More nonsense from you....
Edited on Tue Jul-27-10 06:09 PM by SDuderstadt
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 08:53 AM
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46. "Why do Lared, Zappaman and sduder spend all day reading crap they despise?"
Umm, dude...how in the world would you know how long someone spends reading anything here? Your ponderously long, disjointed and incoherent rant is PRECISELY why you attract so much criticism for your rather silly monologues, dude.

Thanks for making my point.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-10 06:37 PM
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47. To bad the above post got deleted
I read it this morning and did not have time to respond, but it was possibly the first time I understood what Crunchy is trying to say in his/her posts. Also that particular post was coherent and understandable.

Apparently Crunchy believes the entertainment industry and MSM is in cahoots with the PTB in order to distract the masses at preplanned times.

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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:54 AM
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49. i think i have been pretty clear about that... but you skipped over part of what i am trying to say
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 03:04 AM by CrunchMaster
you miss part of what i have also been trying to say... that multiple countries with opposing purposes have gotten into the American media stream and are intentionally polluting it.. manipulating us (I'm thinking here now in terms of the British, and Saudi influence through Australian Rupert Murdochs News Corp)



Here is part of the rant, the core of what i was saying...(edited down so as not to get deleted by offending folks here in the comfy confines of the DU Dungeon)

"What is happening to the United States, is it is being systematically toppled, from enemies without, by f* domestic enemies WITHIN and by the imperialistic overreaching of idiots and morons in high places of power. SOME OF US f* CARE. So please, those of you who don't like what I post, THEN STOP f* READING IT. ."

CUT

THESE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SAID. ********************************. That is why we have a f* Australian and a f* Saudi working together to pump lies into the braindead minds of DUMBEDDOWN Americans using Fox News. And no one, not Obama, not the FCC FUCKING NO ONE IS DOING A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT. And it is why we have a bunch of toe sucking ass flagellators on the supreme court who made it legal for foreign corporations to buy off AMERICAN POLITICIANS. As a fellow f* AMERICAN, then you really should care about all of this!

A F* AUSTRALIAN BILLIONAIRE AND A SAUDI BILLIONAIRE ARE USING THE PROPAGANDA ORGAN FOX NEWS TO INSPIRE A BUNCH OF STUPID AMERICANS TO TAKE GUNS TO PLACES WHERE THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA WILL BE GIVING SPEECHES AND TO PUMP THEIR MINDS WITH INSANITY AND THEN CALL IT NEWS. AND NO ONE DOES ANYTHING. MEANWHILE PAKISTAN GETS HILLARY CLINTON AND THE U.S. GOV TO FORK OVER A FEW BILLION MORE SO PAKISTAN INTELLIGENCE CAN FEED THAT MONEY TO TERRORISTS TO SHOOT AT AMERICANS.

WHO F* RUNS THIS COUNTRY?


It was an angry rant, i said stuff that needed to be said here and I don't apologize for it.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:12 AM
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50. So...
no one is allowed to take issue with your nonsense? Really?

Simple question, dude...why does criticism unhinge you so?
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:22 AM
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52. see, like I said... you are always lurking on DU 24/7...
of course it may be morning where you are.. it's night here in the USA
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 11:50 AM
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54. I'm in the USA...
dude. Do I have to explain to you why your post is silly or were you TRYING for unintentional irony, Crunchy?
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 02:31 AM
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48. democrats have become a silly and lost cause
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 02:49 AM by CrunchMaster
You spend every fucking day reading crap which you call nonsense. What is the fucking point of everyday reading and commenting on a thread you despise? It's pretty fucking pointless if you ask me. Look in the mirror dude. Again, this whole place is an exercise in futility and I'm winding down my participation here anyways. America is not going to be saved by the people here on DU. The Progressive American Leading Edge if there is such a thing has long since left the Democrat party. The Republican Party is full of racists and crazies... the Democratic Party is full of wimps.

I've posted a partial explanation for the answer to what 9/11 is. And it is ridiculed here and censored even though I am doing nothing but connecting some pretty obvious dots using mostly mainstream news sources. It is ridiculed and censored because the Democrats are in the same hip pocket of the transnational corporations and serial murder machines as the Republicans. And the Transnational Serial Murder Machines ARE THE WHAT AND WHO THAT IS BEHIND 9/11. THAT IS WHY WE ARE STILL IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN KILLING PEOPLE WHO DID NOTHING TO THE USA WHILE SENDING MONEY TO PAKISTAN'S ISI WHICH WE ARE TOLD SENT MONEY TO 9/11 LEAD HIJACKER MOHAMMAD ATTA? WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

This is insanity.

As I said, this is censored thought... to understand that we are funding the same guys who attacked us on 9/11, that they have been protecting Bin Laden(who we are told is the Mastermind...which is another lie, foreign intelligence agencies attacked the USA with inside assistance)is to begin to understand how INSANE the USA has become. We are working with 9/11 Terrorist intelligence agencies in Pakistan to kill innocents who had nothing to do with 9/11. Why? Because we are not in the middle east to root out the terrorists behind 9/11. We are in the middle east collaborating with the same terrorist intelligence agencies INVOLVED with 9/11... oh, wait. now my head hurts. Why would we do that?

Because 9/11 WAS NOT ABOUT STOPPING WORLD WIDE TERRORISM. IT WAS ABOUT CREATING A TERRORISM MYTHOLOGY THAT WOULD DRAW THE USA INTO A WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND KEEP US THERE. BUT THIS KNOWLEDGE IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN LEST THE AVERAGE AMERICAN MILK COW STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO THE FACE OF TRANSNATIONAL SERIAL MURDER FOR KICKS AND PROFIT AND GO INSANE.

Running the United States of America we have serial murderers who go around the world killing innocents to acquire their resources. That's what we call people in the habit of repeatedly killing people... Serial Killers And corporations are people right? Transnational Corporations are killing Iraqis and Afgans because they are squatting on resources they want. These Transnational Corps, and spy agencies,and Defense Contractors, and Oil Companies and Drug Kingpins needed 9/11 to get there. Between all of them they managed to get it. We are now stuck there going on 10 years and all the poorer to show for it. But all of this must be hidden from the American Mind at all costs... stare into the eye of insanity too long and we may all go insane right? The country is going insane! WAKE THE FUCK UP.



Insane people are given prominent talk shows by these Transnational Serial Murderers to further spread insanity around the country. To flood the USA with insanity in fact. That is what they want. Why? Because if they do not generate all of these lies and noise, Americans might see straight to the root of evil sitting in our midst and start tying together all of the TRANSNATIONAL CONNECTIONS among the perpetrators. We might actually start to see the coordination behind the scenes that led to 9/11. THIS LEVEL OF NOISE IS A DISTRACTION SO THAT DAY NEVER DAWNS. Insane people run for the highest office in the land and are given credibility. This is the new norm in America. And we are now in a very dangerous place and Democrats are not doing a goddamn thing to stop it. Absolute stark raving mad lunacy runs rampant in the USA. A right wing TV Network run by an Australian and bankrolled by a Saudi Prince encourage lunatics to take guns to meet the president at his speeches. This is the fucking norm now in America. Democrats should have done something to lock these murderous madmen up, but instead the compromised Dems have let them go so that can get stronger. HOW MUCH FUCKING LONGER ARE DEMOCRATS GOING TO SLEEP?

But this all is censored thought for the corporate controlled Democrats who must put a happy face on years of serial murder abroad and serial theft at home and frankly, I'M FUCKING DONE WITH IT. I'm done with Obama. And I'm fucking done with the Democrats. They're going to start losing elections again and it will be there own damn fault. If you thought Reagan and Bush were bad, the next round of crazies these stupid Democrats bring to power are going to really start to wake people up.

Everything about the USA has become a sick joke. A laughing stock. A nation of fools who wake up every morning to another face full of piss from the true Masters of the Universe who manipulate the United States in plain sight, pulling the strings of fools, and lunatics so that they fight each other knowing full well that so many Americans are either too stupid, too afraid, too confused or just too fucking lazy to do anything about it.

* If this message is also, deleted. I have saved it too and will repost somewhere in the future in a more conscious, friendly and forward looking place where ever that fabled land may be *.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:18 AM
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51. "I'm winding down my participation here"
There is a God, after all.

Simple question, dude...are you accusing the Obama administration of being "serial murderers"?
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 03:27 AM
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53. what would you call paying Pak ISI to fund terrorists and then attacking civilians instead of ISI
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 03:42 AM by CrunchMaster
yes, we know and have known for a very long time that PAK ISI is a terrorist organization. The USA pays them, they do terror attacks around the world including against American soldiers and innoc/ents. They were involved with 9/11. They were involved with the Mumbai attacks. Yet we send them money? Wikileaks tells us some of that money is pumped by ISI into the terrorists killing Americans. Lie with pigs and you will get dirty.

Our government will not get out of bed with Paki terrorist ISI. Yes, the stupid Democrats and THIS administration are aiding and abetting Serial Murder in the middle east. The connections will only become more clear the longer Obama continues this stupid war. I do believe Obama has good intentions... i also believe he has been lured into this by the far right to legitimize the horror they started... nonetheless... he will get the "War Criminal" moniker if he does not get out soon. He is a smart guy. I think he must know he cant stay in the middle east without getting the ol' War Criminal label that Bush and Cheney have. These wars began with with Bush and they continue under this administration..they are serial in nature... and THEY NEED TO STOP. We are not fighting a real enemy there. We are creating enemies using Pakistan ISI so we can swat them down and claim we must stay there forever fighting this self generated enemy. Obama has no one to blame for himself if he finally gets the same War Criminal label now stamped on Bush and Cheney forever.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 11:53 AM
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55. And, you're a...
"no-planer", too, correct?
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:13 AM
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60. "America is not going to be saved by the people here on DU"
Did you just figure that one out?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:56 AM
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39. Corporate press, itself, is a "distraction" from news -- and agree that
celebrity journalism comes into service when needed by elites --

HOWEVER, there is some information to be found in some of it -- like Diana's death, for

instance -- where the power which really runs governments can be seen.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 11:48 AM
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57. The Boring of DU...
we can't thank you enough, Crunchy.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 05:36 AM
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58. Breitbart the Blackmailer at it Again + Texas + Iran + Domestic Spying + America the DUMB
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 05:43 AM by CrunchMaster
Weinergate is in the news. Weinergate is an odd thing. I am going to post on it hopefully tomorrow night. No time tonight.

But you have to ask yourself, what type of DUMBASS politician sends naked pictures of himself to a Texas woman on an Iranian domain(a .ir domain)? See, something just doesn't add up. I can't imagine he is that stupid. If he is not really that stupid... then the only thing left is that Weiner is a witting TOOL.



Weiner, I really don't care what you do in your personal life. I assume you are working for the American people. But Jesus, you act and smell just like ANOTHER FUCKING TOOL. You put pictures of yourself on an Iranian domain website? COME ON, Weiner, you aren't that stupid? I was a bit suspicious that you are Jewish, your wife is Pakistani/Saudi..and it happens that Israel, Pakistan and the Saudis are just loving America's unending wars along those borders in the middle east... but I try not judge people and make too many warrantless assumptions about where people's loyalties lie, but now this? WTF IS GOING ON? You have set your self up so nicely for blackmail! And we wonder why Democrats never get anything done!

Later in the month, Broussard received three, more graphic images from the address RockOh77@yahoo.com, which she said was Weiner's online alias.
A Google search for the "RockOh77" email address returns only one website – a profile for the user name on Invisible.ir, which is described as a web tool that allows "hiding your images from others." On the page are three previously-unseen thumbnail photos of a bare-chested man that appears to be Weiner.
On May 18, Broussard received an image from the RockOh77 account that shows a man's erect penis. Two days later, she received a shot of a bare-chested man sitting at an office desk. The man in the photo shares facial features with Weiner, and personal photographs in the background resemble his known aquaintances.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-anthony-weiner-picture/story?id=13774605&page=2


Something doesn't pass the smell test here. Others also smell a rat. Here are some links talking about it:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/04/982122/-Breaking:-Christian-Infowar-Militia-Attacked-Congressman-Weiner?via=siderec
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/04/982102/-Breitbarts-#TwitterhoaxWhat-We-Know-Now
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/04/982173/-Christian-Infowar-Militia:-Wrecking-Crew
http://filmladd.com/?PatriotUSA76Interview
http://pornstarbabylon.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/is-rob-black-a-pedophile/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/05/982318/-WeinerGate-Ends-When-Mike-Stack-et-al-Are-Investigated?via=siderec

But here is what is interesting:

The online affair between Weiner and the Texas woman began back on April 20th 2011:
"ABC News reports that Broussard provided them with "dozens of photos, emails, Facebook messages and cell phone call logs " chronicling her "sexually charged electronic relationship," which started on April 20 of this year, with the politician. "
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/06/meagan_broussard.php


The guy who hacked Weiner's account to get some deleted cache pictures above, who calls himself PatriotUSA76(Dan Wolfe) has had a hardon for Weiner since April...


In fact he created his yahoo account the day after the Texas woman and Weiner began there affair(April 20th):
"All we know is that his name is Dan Wolfe and his Twitter name is PatriotUSA76, and he has a history of Anti-Weiner tweets dating back to the day his Twitter account was created.
I knew I had one piece of information that no one else had – his email address. I was able to find his Yahoo Profile which suspiciously shows his email address was created on April 21, 2011. "
http://wireupdate.com/joereport/news/my-own-email-interactions-with-patriotusa76-aka-dan-wolfe/


Is that just coincidence? Or was Weiner being watched? It would seem that these guys have been stalking Weiner since back in April. But the media doesn't really look into this angle of the story.

In other news, NSA in Texas (home of Oil and War-O-Philes) and Utah(home of Gay Hating Mormons) will be snatching up ***ALL*** of American's emails and storing them in those two states:
Binney,for his part,believes that the agency now stores copies of all e-mails transmitted in America,in case the government wants to retrieve the details later. In the past few years,the N.S.A. has built enormous electronic-storage facilities in Texas and Utah. Binney says that an N.S.A. e-mail database can be searched with “dictionary selection,” in the manner of Google. After 9/11,he says,“General Hayden reassured everyone that the N.S.A. didn’t put out dragnets,and that was true. It had no need—it was getting every fish in the sea.”
http://www.altnews.info/tag/nsa-spying/


Expect more Texas and Utah women to be exposing the emails of more Compromised Democrat Dumbasses. Also expect more Gay bashing, more Wars and more shoveling of your money into foreign countries by Republicans and more bending over backwards by Democrats.

In other, other news, 1 in 4 Hackers is an FBI informant:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/06/us-hackers-fbi-informer

America, Home of the Dumb and the Hopeless
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 06:02 AM
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61. Weinergate, Dick Pictures, Blackmail of America by Foreigners, Wash. Times
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 06:17 AM by CrunchMaster
The Weiner is getting the Tiger Woods treatment. Why do Democrats and celebrities always become targets of the media? Oh, you don't know? It should be obvious... Democrats don't really control the media...

Fuck, I think some of our media isn't even really controlled by AMERICANS.


Them Wimpy Democrats
Of course to believe that influential Democrats are being "targeted" reeks of CONSPIRACY. OH NO, CAN'T HAVE THAT. NO WAY. CONSPIRACIES AREN'T REAL. BETTER THROW THIS ENTIRE THREAD OFF INTO THE DU DUNGEON BEFORE DEMOCRATS WARM UP THEIR BRAINS AND START ASKING DEEP QUESTIONS. Oh wait, we're already in the DU Dungeon. nvm.

Silly Dems... conditioned since rightwingers killed JFK and MLK Jr. not to see conspiracies, will simply bend over and take another one in the arse AGAIN by their Right Wing controllers. And life goes on.

One of the only seemingly non-neutered Democrats left and Weiner goes down in flames for doing what MOST OF THESE COMPROMISED POLITICIANS ARE DOING... and Dems will go back to doing what they do best.... not fighting, but yakking it up on the blogs and radiyos and teevees about all the shit they are going to do when they get in power... next election. Sure. (SPOILER : Compromised Dems will do what they always do. Exactly what the Secret Rightwing Networks blackmail them into doing... are we out of Iraq and Afghanistan yet? Nope. Are we still funneling endless money to Wall Street and Defense Contractors and that Terrorist Country Pakistan? Yep.)

Speaking of Defense Contractors...


Did the media ever go after the pedophiles in the Pentagon buying child porn from foreign countries? What? You never heard it in the news?
That represents a "small percentage" of the Pentagon's massive staff, but it's a concern nonetheless because it puts the Pentagon “at risk of blackmail, bribery, and threats, especially since these individuals typically have access to military installations, the report stated.

...

Many of those apprehended were swept up in a much broader probe initiated by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency in 2006. Operation Flicker identified an estimated 5,000 people who had paid money over the Internet to access websites operated overseas. But until now, it has not been disclosed that a sizable number of cases were referred to the Defense Department for investigation because they involved military personnel, intelligence officials, or defense contractors....

...

Some are in high-ranking positions, in positions of trust..."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/07/23/pentagon-employees-porn-working/



You probably didn't hear much about that story, but you are hearing lots and lots of "News" about Anthony Weiner and his stupid dick pictures.

Hey Media! That Pentagon thing might be important to look into, considering the FBI and Pentagon both KNEW 9/11 WAS COMING AND SOMEHOW COULDN'T MANAGE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

Back to that "Iranian" site Weiner put his dick pictures on, it was based in the Netherlands
In the post above I mentioned the website: invisible.ir. It is said that The Weiner used it to store some pictures of his schlong. I had asked in the last post what type of FUCKING AMERICAN IDIOT POLITICIAN WOULD PUT HIS OWN DICK PICTURES ON AN IRANIAN RUN SITE? In truth this site may or may not be Iranian.

invisible.ir although having an Iranian domain on the end is apparently located in Amsterdam Netherlands (world reknown for its canals, 9/11 terrorist flight trainers, legal weed and donkey porn) :

http://www.isitereport.com/site/invisible.ir

But Weiner is still an idiot if he posted nude pictures of himself to a domain most people would assume is Iranian. (.ir)

I really don't understand what is going on with this story.

The Weiner, Blackmail Rags, 17 year old Girls, Porn Stars and Dirty Text Messages
The Weiner is now being scrutinized for sending text messages to a 17 year old girl:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/06/10/2011-06-10_rep_anthony_weiner_tweeted_17yearold_girl_but_congressman_swears_it_wasnt_dirty_.html

Blackmail Rag(Tabloid) New York Daily News, like many of the other tabloids knee deep in American dirty laundry is also under the control of someone who is not originally American : Mortimer Zuckerman. Zuckerman is a Canadian born American knee deep in Israeli politics:
"Zuckerman is also an active supporter of Israeli and international Jewish causes. Between 2001 and 2003, Zuckerman was the chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations. Typically, the nominating committee attempts to choose a person who is both respected and uncontroversial. However, Zuckerman was widely opposed by liberal Jewish factions.<15><16> Nonetheless, Zuckerman was eventually elected and served a full term."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortimer_Zuckerman


2001 and 2003. There are those years again.. 9/11 and the Iraq War. Gotta get America in there to protect those borders!

The International Business Times claims that "Facebook Stalker" Weiner "Forced" Himself on women
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/159967/20110609/rep-anthony-weiner-facebook-stalker-cordova-weiss-twitter-photo-nude-image-explicit-sexual-chat-onli.htm

The International Business Times although based in New York seems to have some deeper London based roots and has ties to American Evangelicals through a Vertical Ad agency connected to its CEO.

The Weiner also has been dirty texting porn stars:
http://gawker.com/5809423/anthony-weiner-told-porn-star-to-lie-about-dirty-messages

Blackmail, Breitbart, the Washington Times, Falls Church Virgina and 9/11, Destabilizing Democracy
Is it any real surprise that professional Blackmailer Andrew Breitbart works for the greatest of all blackmail rags ever? The Washington Times?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Breitbart

Why should it be a surprise? Breitbart has spent the last 2-3 years running blackmail operations with his Patsy Boy O'Keefe against various democrats and democratic institutions. Is anyone talking about it? NO. Are Dems even acknowledging what is truly going on? NO. CAN'T START DABBLING IN CONSPIRACY TALK NOW CAN WE? OH HELL NO.

The Washington Times is that OTHER America Wrecking news org run by another FOREIGN FASCIST AGENT and cult leader, the True Parent Reverend Sun Myung Moon. They have been in the business of blackmailing American politics for a long time:


Reverend Moon and Bo Hi Pak both have South Korean military and intelligence connections. It has been claimed that Moon and Bo Hi Pak were involved with pedophile blackmail operations against American politicians to keep them in line with the wishes of the Anti-Commie networks foreign and domestic that ran these operations against American politicians.
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-318-kidding-around-child-molestation-and-pedophilia-in-the-gop/

Interestingly Moon and Bo Hi Pak had run a "Little Angels" dance troupe which still they still drag around the world today performing for various politicians, veterans groups, etc.
http://www.cultnews.com/archives/000040.html

A fascist Cult leader and his military intelligence sidekick accused of running blackmail operations run around the world with a dancing troupe of little girls?

Uh...hmmm.

Koreagate : Reverend Moon, Tongsun Park, Korean Intelligence and Blackmail of American Dumbass Politicians to Protect Korean Borders
"Koreagate" was an American political scandal in 1976 involving South Korean political figures seeking influence from 10 Democratic members of Congress. An immediate goal of the scandal seems to have been reversing President Richard Nixon's decision to withdraw troops from South Korea. It involved the Korea Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA) allegedly funneling bribes and favors through Korean businessman Tongsun Park in an attempt to gain favor and influence for South Korean objectives. Some 115 members of Congress were supposedly involved. Speculation also focused on the role of Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon, former KCIA Director Kim Hyung Wook, and former South Korean Prime Minister Chung Il Kwon.<1><2>

...

According to the agreement, both parties would share the commissions from American rice sales to South Korea and to use them to obtain favorable decisions for Seoul in the United States Congress.<3> Hanna was also responsible for aiding Chung Il Kwon and Park in finding effective lobbying techniques, which he did by advising the pair to emulate Taiwanese and Israeli models that had succeeded in the past.<4>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreagate


Is the USA still protecting South Korea's borders? Why yes, we are.

By the way, Weiner's wife Huma is of Indo-Pakistan heritage, was born in the USA but went with her parents to live in Saudi Arabia at a very young age before she moved back to the USA to go to school. So her upbringing is Saudi not Pakistani. I really don't want to speculate here although I really do find all of this very coincidental and odd(Saudi Arabia being another country whose borders we are protecting).

And did you hear by chance who the new editor of the Washington Times is going to be? It's some guy who was a major News paper editor in Oklahoma at the time of the Oklahoma bombing. Ho, ho, ho. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge! HO, HO, HO! HAHAHAHA!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/longtime-editor-at-the-oklahoman-to-be-editor-at-the-washington-times-newspaper/2011/06/10/AGOYzGPH_story.html

A guy who probably did his best to bury the full story of what really happened at the Oklahoma City bombing.

As I mentioned at the thread below, that some of the flight 77 hijackers were living right down the street from the 7777 Leesburg Pike, Falls Church, VA address of Moonie Unification Church headquarters(it was HQ in 1999, not sure if that is still true). In fact this general area around Falls Church, VA is a hive of secretive scumbags with ties to 9/11 and American terror events and provocations. Some of America's biggest terror events have at their nexus Falls Church Virginia:

* Some of the D.C. Sniper shootings took place at the Falls Church mall. These shootings would take place in the runup to the Iraq War Authorization vote in which Wimpy politicians were scared shitless into these dumbfuck wars in the middle east.

* The Fort Hood Shooter Major Nidal Hasan, like the 9/11 hijackers had been in contact with Anwar Awlaki at the Falls Church mosque where Awlaki spoke. The weak link in this story is of course the U.S. military and intelligence. U.S. agencies knew that Nidal Hasan was in contact with Al-Qaeda and did nothing. In fact they promoted him up to the point where he wound up in Texas and killed a bunch of Americans. But this is what the War-O-Philes want. This mass shooting occurred right in the middle of a debate to escalate the number of troops in Afghanistan. You may also remember the recent news that the Pentagon had invited provocateur Anwar Awlaki to the Pentagon even though he had been under suspicion of being a terrorist. If you understand that the Pentagon needs and wants war and Awlaki the Puppet Provocateur helps provide it by rounding up patsies then none of this is a mystery is it?
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-shooter-contact-al-qaeda-terrorists-officials/story?id=9030873

* Some of the alleged 9/11 hijackers lived at a Leesburg pike address. Had been in contact with agent provocateur Anwar Awlaki.

* Al-Qaeda's new #1, wink, wink, nudge, nudge Anwar al-Awlaki was operating out of a Falls Church address acting as a recruiter for patsi... oh, I mean "Terrorists." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_Al-Hijrah

Awlaki was also a recruiter for the Saudis to get young mosque attendees to go to Bosnia and take bullets for the Saudis:
http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_14861059?source=commented-news

Awlaki has since been positioned in Yemen. A country on Saudi Arabia's disputed southern border and which would probably make another great place to rope Dumb America into another war. Oh wait. That's already happening.

* And then there was that grandiose asshole Jerry Falwell who lived in Lynchburg, VA and had ties to not only the Reverend Moon but also to Mormon Wally Hilliard who himself was in a partnership with Dutch nationals running a flight school where some of the alleged 9/11 Hijackers were taking lessons.
http://www.madcowprod.com/issue43.html

* World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) was also in the Leesburg Pike area. WAMY had been linked to terrorist activity. WAMY had Saudi and Pakistani support (two countries that want to see the USA busting its ass protecting their borders)

* The Rightwing C Street Fuck-and-Blackmail-Crew is located about 14 miles from the this Leesburg pike area. Oddly enough this group of horny politicians has lodging inside of a place owned by a youth group. "Youth With a Mission" (YWAM). The C-Street group is affiliated with "The Fellowship". Another Nazi rightwing group whose leadership apparently thinks its ok to "rape little girls" in the name of Jesus:

"The answer, we discovered, was that King David had been “chosen.” To illustrate this point David Coe turned to Beau. “Beau, let's say I hear you raped three little girls. And now here you are at Ivanwald. What would I think of you, Beau?”

Beau shrank into the cushions. “Probably that I'm pretty bad?”

“No, Beau. I wouldn't. Because I'm not here to judge you. That's not my job. I'm here for only one thing.”

“Jesus?” Beau said. David smiled and winked.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525


Winkety wink wink. Nudge, Nudge.

More on the Falls Church Terror Nexus Here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=276730

Seeing a pattern here? WHY OF COURSE NOT. WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE SEEING PATTERNS NOW CAN WE? Maybe I can get this info passed on to Iranian Press TV or Thom Hartmann over there at Russia Today(rt.com) and then maybe it might be respectable enough get out of the Dungeon and onto the main page?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkmEZs_Kcms

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:33 PM
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62. Gee...
another confused, disjointed post.

What a surprise.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 03:42 AM
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65. 'Whitey' Bulger has been Captured by the FBI, DrudgeReport Apparently doesn't Find this Interesting
Edited on Sat Jun-25-11 03:49 AM by CrunchMaster
'Whitey' Bulger has been finally captured by the FBI after 16 years.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/whitey-bulger-arrest-santa-monica.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/prosecutors-inflorida-and-oklahoma-said-they-intend-to-go-after-legendary-crime-boss-james-whitey-bulger-who-despit.html

The Russian spies took 10 years for the FBI to get them.
Osama took 13 or so years to get.
And Whitey Bulger took 16.

Big news right? Apparently not for Matt Drudge. I haven't seen any "Whitey Bulger" news stories a single time on the drudgereport. The story broke June 22 and 3 days later I still haven't seen Drudge post ANYTHING about it. There is a story about U2 not paying their taxes, more race baiting pictures of Obama "kissing" white women and Michelle Obama watching tribal African dancers dance. But nothing on this major story of the capture of big time FBI connected Boston Mob boss Whitey Bulger? What gives? Drudge, how about you drop those stupid links to Alex "Who Oddly Predicted 9/11" Jones at prisonplanet.com and post some real news?

Bulger was captured in Santa Monica, California hiding in plain sight:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/whitey-bulger-arrest-santa-monica.html

I wonder if Matt Drudge's blackmailer buddy Andrew Breitbart is reporting on the story? Breitbart apparently runs his webring of Lies, Blackmail and Defamation websites in an office not too far from Bulger's apartment in Santa Monica. Fancy that?

Breitbart and his goons have offices in Santa Monica:
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2010/07/andrew_breitbart_is_there_no_s.php

I'm not saying there's a connection of course. But... Fancy That.

Then again, Breitbart is also in the employ of the Washington Times which is itself tied to organized crime through it's intelligence tied fascist leader Revered Moon and his sons. So I would imagine the subject of "Organized Crime" might be a touchy subject for those in the employ of CRIMINALS. Yes, Moon is a crook and tied to a lot of nasty things:

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html

Republicans reporting on real crimes and real criminals and corruption? Fat chance.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:46 PM
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63. Very interesting Crunchmaster...thx. nt
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 11:16 PM
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64. Thanks for reading and keeping an open mind!
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 11:16 PM by CrunchMaster
Ignore the conspiracy debunker TROLLS that have been lurking in forums like this for YEARS, DAY IN AND DAY OUT(do they have jobs????), doing the bidding of the right wing, trying to convince Democrats that rightwing conspiracies against Democrats do not exist.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 11:55 AM
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66. Best. Thread. Ever...


Sid
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 12:29 AM
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67. Dumbed Down Debunked America + It's Republican Criminal Controllers + How China Wants Your Ass
Edited on Sun Jun-26-11 12:40 AM by CrunchMaster
Do you 24/7 debunkers have anything better to do with yourselves than debunk "nutty posts" you hate to read? Really not much nutty going on here since I am simply taking stuff from mainstreams news. Granted, you may not like the connections I draw but showing how things sit next to each other in time and space. It is what it is.

And I find it curious and odd that so many take offense to pointing out the obvious. Actually I take that back. I really don't find it curious and odd at all that perceiving the obvious is not popular among Americans these days.

Flight 93 Plane Crash Site

The Obvious
What are Democrats doing out there in the real world other than getting there asses handed to them day in and day out by Republicans? Right. NOTHING. What is the mechanism that keeps the Democrats docile and in check by the Republicans?

How's that Weinergate thing working out for you? You thought Weiner was all gungho Uber Democrat Ass Kicker and now he is gone.

And the Democrats did not even put up a fight. Oh wait. We're talking about Democrats here. Been a long time since a Democrat put up a really good fight against anything.

Why is that?


Of course we all know the fucking reason. But Democrats are not allowed to rationally discuss it.

Any rational discussion of what is really going on is to be met by the dreaded C word (Conspiracy) and disruption. Like clockwork.

Why is that?

Anytime a Democrat tries to rationally discuss WHY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS USELESS, the same old wrecking crew of moldy old conspiracy denial experts trots out the C word, in order to get Democrats to stop talking about conspiracies.

CONSPIRACY YOU SAY? THERE ARE NO CONSPIRACIES IN AMERICA. ARE YOU CHOCK FULL OF NUTS?

The deeper problem with the Democratic party is cowardice. There is no such cowardice in the Republican party. A Republican can discuss anything openly in their party as long as a Republican does not attack the party itself. A Republican can say anything he wants, regardless of how crazy, racist or fascist it is.

Democrats on the other hand cannot even simply rationally discuss conspiracies that involve the American right without being disrupted. Now that's odd. Why is the Democratic party so internally adverse to discussing rightwing conspiracies?

Because the Democratic Party is obviously not controlled by liberals at the highest levels. That should be obvious by now.

Are we in Iraq and Afghanistan still? Fighting a war NO ONE ON THE AMERICAN LEFT OR RIGHT REALLY WANTS? Of course we are.

Are Republicans sending all of your money upwards to Defense Contractors and Wall Street undeterred? Of course they are.

Are we still sending billions of dollars to Pakistan although it was DIRECTLY AT HIGH LEVELS INVOLVED WITH 9/11 and other terrorist events? Of course we are.

Is Healthcare in America still a ridiculous mess with no signs of ever being fixed? Of course it is.

Are Republicans still making moves to dismantle social security for the elderly, and other safety networks for the poor while simultaneously giving everything we own to the wealthiest 1 percent who then move that money to foreign countries??? Why yes they are!

Why????

Because... oh wait. I can't talk about that because it would be considered NUTTY CONSPIRACY to wonder why America is being fucked over so hard without a fight. Silly me.

Why is it that in the USA you can't ask which Americans in high places are criminals without being called a CONSPIRACY NUT. If you consider that the USA is in a bunch of illegal wars, has illegally stolen Americans money and sent it to Wall Street, dirty Defense Contractors, terrorist nations, and offshore tax havens... THEN THE ANSWER IS FUCKING OBVIOUS. BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT CONTROL EVERYTHING IN AMERICA... THAT ARE DESTROYING IT...

...ARE FUCKING CRIMINALS AND CRIMINALS WOULD PREFER YOU NOT KNOW THAT THEY ARE CRIMINALS...

Wall Street, the Defense Industry and Wealthy Tax Dodgers took America's Wealth and mostly sent it offshore. And Americans simply sat back and took it.

What is this power core that ultimately manipulates Democrats into doing exactly what the hardcore rightwing wants it to do?

I'll call it a Transnational-Military-Industrial-Intelligence-Crime-Complex. It is spying on Democrats. Collecting information on them. Blackmailing them, threatening them and disrupting and destabilizing Democracy regardless of what the citizens actually want or vote for. Nothing else explains why Democrats are historically so pathetically weak and usually turn sharply to the right once they get into the White House.

Bush and Cheney, where are those goddamn WMDs you sent Americans to go die for and kill millions of Arabs for? Oh, what is that you say? You don't have any proof Iraq had anything to do with 9/11? But Pakistan did have something to do with 9/11? And also your royal pals in Saudi Arabia? Oh really, that's interesting... so you told lies to get us to attack a country that had ZIP to do with 9/11 and you let the host countries of the 9/11 hijackers off scott free. SO YOU ARE A COUPLE OF WAR CRIMINALS, WHY AREN'T YOU IN JAIL?

BECAUSE IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT, AMERICA'S ELITE RARELY PUTS IT'S OWN IN JAIL. THE BIGGEST THIEVES AND MURDERERS OF ALL TIME SIMPLY GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST, WHILE IT IS THE AVERAGE AMERICAN PATSY WHO IS MUCH MORE LIKELY TO WIND UP IN JAIL.


Isn't it just great to know that Rumsfeld is in jail for giving Lynndie England the technique she used to rape Iraqis?

Donald Rumsfeld was directly linked to prisoner abuse for the first time yesterday, when it emerged he had been "personally involved" in a Guantánamo Bay interrogation found by military investigators to have been "degrading and abusive".

Human Rights Watch last night called for a special prosecutor to be appointed to investigate whether the defence secretary could be criminally liable for the treatment of Mohamed al-Qahtani, a Saudi al-Qaida suspect forced to wear women's underwear, stand naked in front of a woman interrogator, and to perform "dog tricks" on a leash, in late 2002 and early 2003. The US rights group said it had obtained a copy of the interrogation log, which showed he was also subjected to sleep deprivation and forced to maintain "stress" positions; it concluded that the treatment "amounted to torture".

However, military investigators decided the interrogation did not amount to torture but was "abusive and degrading". Those conclusions were made public last year but this is the first time Mr Rumsfeld's own involvement has emerged.

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According to a December report by the army inspector general, obtained by Salon.com online magazine, the investigators did not accuse the defence secretary of specifically prescribing "creative" techniques, but they said he regularly monitored the progress of the al-Kahtani interrogation by telephone, and they argued he had helped create the conditions that allowed abuse to take place.

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So far, only junior US officers have been charged and convicted for a string of prisoner abuse scandals since the Bush administration launched its "global war on terror",

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The investigators found Mr Rumsfeld was "talking weekly" with Gen Miller about the al-Qahtani interrogation. In December 2002, the defence secretary approved 16 harsh interrogation techniques for use on Mr al-Qahtani, including forced nudity, and "stress positions". However approval was revoked in 2003.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/apr/15/usa.guantanamo


Isn't America great how we dole out justice to the great and the small? Oh, wait. My mistake. Rumsfeld is NOT in jail for creating the torture technique used by the torturer patsies. The torturers are in jail but not the guys who designed the torture technique and ordered it. Kind of like how before 'Whitey' Bulger went on the run, all of his UnderAssholings were busted by the FBI but not the head guy himself (Bulger) who was ordering the murders while chumming around at dinner parties with dirty FBI agents.

The government, the military, intelligence, defense contractors, wall street and all of the rest are working overtime to dumb down the American public by feeding them a steady diet of lies and terror in order to keep them neutered and pacified. But as in all periods of history the end result will be that it is going to backfire. The parties I just mentioned can't control what they are doing to the USA because they are all compelled like ANIMALS simply out of self-interest.

When what they are doing has reached its apex and the people have had enough. They had all better run for the hills (or China ) or convert while they still have a chance because the American people at that point WILL HAVE HAD QUITE THE FUCK ENOUGH and THE AMERICA WRECKERS are going to be front and center in the publics attention when they start metering out prison sentences to all of those criminal fucks who didn't have the good sense to run or convert.

All over the world people have said ENOUGH. It hasn't happened in the USA yet(except maybe Wisconsin) but it will. How do I know? Because wrecked economies are the spark that is triggering the unrest around the world. And the Republicans are hell bent like COMPELLED ANIMALS to wrecking the U.S. economy for their own gain. And because they currently control the Democrats. They are going to get their wish. Unfortunately for Republicans they are so self-absorbed in their own echo chamber of propaganda, that they think the regular guy on the street doesn't get who is really at the root of destroying the USA and selling it out for the highest dollar...Republicans helm this endeavor.

Speaking of China and Selling Out...

THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WANTS YOUR AMERICAN ASS ROASTED ON A PLATTER
The Chinese Government Is Buying Up Economic Assets And Huge Tracts Of Land All Over The United States
http://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Chinese_Government_Is_Buying_Up_Economic_Assets_And_Huge_Tracts_Of_Land_All_Over_The_United_States/14356/0/0/0/Y/M.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/may/05/business/fi-chinainvest5

"Fucking dumbass Americans. Together we will
rape them of everything they own and then blame
it on clueless Democrats. MWAH-HAHAHAHAHA!!!"
Rupert Murdoch speaking to Chinese media.


Murdoch's Boner for China
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/world/asia/26murdoch.html

Notice in those first two articles above where the Chinese companies are moving in? China is buying up pieces of America in all states, but
it seems to have some heavy interests in Red States:

Ohio, Missouri, South Carolina, Wyoming, Alabama, Texas,
Georgia, Idaho.


Ohio's Boehner for China

When Tim Ryan (D-OH) introduced legislation to prevent China from continuing the systematic currency manipulation that has cost Americans hundreds of thousands of jobs, it was lobbyist owned-John Boehner and his entire leadership team -- Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, David Dreier, Paul Ryan, Pete Sessions -- who took the side of the Chinese against America. Even Boehner's own caucus was horrified and most Republicans deserted Boehner and his Communist Chinese allies and crossed the aisle to vote with the Democrats and, for a change, the interests of ordinary American working families. Yesterday, Think Progress broke the story on just how China and other foreign interests are going about taking over the U.S. government -- using the easily manipulated Republicans and their reactionary allies at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howie-klein/what-would-china-pay-to-m_b_752584.html


Welcome to my ignore list SidDithers. Enjoy!

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 12:36 AM
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68. This entire OP is...
An exercise in apophenia.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 03:01 AM
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69. Tom Delay + Russian Bribes + Your Tax Dollars + Why Isn't Tom Delay in Jail???
Edited on Sun Jun-26-11 03:04 AM by CrunchMaster
As mentioned above, Republican Boehner has been assisting the the "Commie" Chinese to fuck over Americans.

And you may remember Republican Texan Tom Delay was working with "Commie" Russian oil execs to fuck over Americans, take their tax dollars and send them to the Russians.

So my question is...

WHY THE FUCK IS TOM DELAY STILL NOT IN JAIL?

Here’s the crux: Was the Republican leader Tom DeLay working on behalf of Russians against the American public interest—and being compensated for it?

That’s a pretty strong accusation, but unless I read my Washington Post wrong, that is exactly what was alleged in a front page story that appeared on Saturday, the last day of 2005, and therefore may escape proper notice. The article is even easier to miss because of the mundane “more of the same” headline above it: " The DeLay-Abramoff Money Trail : Nonprofit Group Linked to Lawmaker Was Funded Mostly by Clients of Lobbyist."

First, some background. Tuesday, as the world knows by now, Jack Abramoff, the powerful Republican lobbyist and major DeLay associate, pleaded guilty to conspiracy, fraud and tax evasion charges, agreeing to cooperate in a federal corruption probe in Washington. He faces up to 11 years in federal prison and must pay $26.7 million in restitution.

For many months, we’ve been hearing stories about Abramoff’s shakedowns and indiscreet e-mails mocking Indian tribal leaders and other outrages, many of them with DeLay at the periphery or more directly involved.

The problem with these stories—which range from machinations over gambling licenses and Pacific island sweatshops to golfing junkets in Scotland—is that they are complicated, seemingly obscure and center on figures like Abramoff, who, while important, is merely an enabler of a larger and more troubling reality: How Republicans inside and outside of the Congress are subverting democracy itself, with public funds going to advance the personal interests of a small set of powerful Americans.

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Cumulatively, a careful reader comes away with the following conclusion: DeLay was essentially being bribed by Russians. Specifically, a phony nonprofit set up by DeLay’s former top aide was used to transfer monies from powerful Russians to DeLay, in return for his influencing legislation that could direct U.S. taxpayer money into their pockets. The Russians, working through super-lobbyist Jack Abramoff, put up most of the $2.5 million “contributions” that funneled through the outfit.

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Monies were passed from Russian oil and gas executives working with Abramoff through a now-defunct London law firm and an obscure Bahamian company into an outfit, set up by former DeLay Chief of Staff Ed Buckham, masquerading as a grassroots advocacy group on family values. The group, the U.S. Family Network, existed for five years, but apparently did little or nothing on family issues, though it actually had the temerity to send out fundraising letters to the public, warning that “the American family is under attack from all sides: crime, drugs, pornography, and… gambling.” It also paid for ads attacking vulnerable Democratic candidates.

But what it was really doing, according to the article, was influencing DeLay to support legislation favorable to wealthy Russians—with the bill paid for by American taxpayers. DeLay traveled to Moscow in 1997 and spent time with the Russians, though he claimed to the House clerk that another nonprofit paid for it and that he was in that country to “meet with religious leaders there.”

Probably the most incendiary material in the Post story was buried, beginning in paragraph 32. The former president of the U.S. Family Network, a pastor no less, actually says that Buckham explained to him in 1999 that a $1 million payment passed through to the organization was intended specifically to influence DeLay's 1998 vote on a bill that enabled the International Monetary Fund to use U.S. taxpayer monies, in part, to bail out the Russian economy and specific wealthy Russian investors involved with the scheme.

...

Tom DeLay and his cronies appear to have been accepting what amounted to bribes from Russians with connections to the Yeltsin-Putin regimes who wanted U.S. taxpayer monies to keep flowing to benefit them. They laundered the money, and, worse, did it through a nonprofit organization, which, in turn, claimed to be established to fight the decline in moral standards in America. Even more appalling, while this phony charity was doing this mercenary work, it was hitting up naïve members of DeLay’s political base for contributions.

...

How better to capture the brazen hypocrisy of all this than through tabloid-style headlines:

* Revenue from the phony ‘family’ charity was used to finance radio ads attacking vulnerable Democratic lawmakers. So, let’s see:"Putin Buddies Paid For Attacks On Dems"
* Other funds went to finance the cash purchase of a townhouse near DeLay’s congressional office. DeLay’s guys called it “the Safe House.” So, maybe this headline: “Russian Cash Bought DeLay Safe House”
* The point man for this, DeLay’s former aide Buckham, had been executive director of the Republican Study Committee, a group of ‘fiscally conservative’ House members. Headline: “Fiscal Conservatives Give U.S. Money To Rich Russians”

The Russian angle is especially important, as recent developments show a growing clampdown by Putin on democracy in Russia—from arrests of political opponents to curtailment of the press—along with blatant attempts to intimidate former Soviet republics like Ukraine. This puts the so-called freedom-loving GOP leadership in bed with the least savory of the holdover Communists.
http://www.russbaker.com/archives/TomPaine_com%20-%20To%20Russia,%20Love%20Tom%20DeLay.htm



If anyone of you had been caught working with the Russians
to send American tax dollars to wealthy Russian oil pricks,
you know where you would be and it wouldn't be dancing
around on TV looking like a fucking clown.

You would probably be wearing the stripes though.


Only in Dumb America.

Where criminals run everything and the rest of us foot the bill.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-11 04:12 PM
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70. GOOGLE : American + Russian Founders + Blacksburg, VA CEO
Google getting the Stink eye from the U.S. Government
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/169425-google-hiring-12-lobbying-firms-in-response-to-investigations

Why? For becoming an internet MONOPOLY that is gaining way too much power.

Privacy concerns have taken center stage since the Street View WiFi spying incident last year, in which Google vehicles downloaded personal information from unencrypted wireless networks. A federal judge ruled this week that Google could be liable for the incident under the Wiretap Act.

The firm is frequently mentioned during the ongoing legislative debate over online privacy and behavioral advertising, due to Google’s huge online ad business.

Google has drawn criticism from lawmakers on copyright enforcement, with some stakeholders accusing the search giant of profiting off ads placed on sites that host pirated content.

In addition, Google’s Android smartphone platform has also been the target of accusations that the phones track and store user location data. Google has denied those accusations and testified that its phones do not track users.
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/169425-google-hiring-12-lobbying-firms-in-response-to-investigations


What is this Google WiFi spying incident you ask?
It was no secret that Google's cars had already been collecting publicly broadcast SSID information (Wi-Fi network names) and MAC addresses (unique numbers for devices like Wi-Fi routers). But this techie data, which is used for location-based services such as Google Maps, didn't include any "payload data," or personal information sent over the network.

Or so "Big Brother" Google claimed on April 27. But yesterday the search behemoth 'fessed up to a security gaffe of Orwellian proportions. Due to a piece of code written in 2006 by an engineer for an experimental Wi-Fi project, Google had in fact been collecting those private bits after all:

"But it's now clear that we have been mistakenly collecting samples of payload data from open (i.e. non-password-protected) WiFi networks, even though we never used that data in any Google products," wrote Alan Eustace, Google senior VP, engineering & research.

Wow. That's freaky and strange. And not in a good way, either.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/196397/googles_wifi_spying_what_were_they_thinking.html


Google's Founders

Larry Page
Page was born in East Lansing, Michigan.<5><6> His father, Carl Page, earned a Ph.D. in computer science in 1965 when the field was in its infancy, and is considered a "pioneer in computer science and artificial intelligence." Both he and Page's mother were computer science professors at Michigan State University.<7><8> Page is Jewish on his mother's side, and was raised without religion.<9>

In 1998, Brin and Page founded Google, Inc.<18> Page ran Google as co-president along with Brin until 2001 when they hired Eric Schmidt as Chairman and CEO of Google. In January 2011 Google announced that Page would replace Schmidt as CEO in April the same year.<19> Both Page and Brin earn an annual compensation of one dollar. On April 4, 2011, Page officially became the chief executive officer of Google, while Schmidt stepped down to become executive chairman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Page


Sergey Brin
Sergey Mikhaylovich Brin (Russian: Сергей Михайлович Брин; born August 21, 1973) is a Russian American computer scientist and industrialist who, with Larry Page, co-founded Google, the world's largest Internet company , based on its search engine and online advertising technology.<3> As of 2011, his personal wealth is estimated to be $19.8 billion.<1>

Brin immigrated to the United States from Russia at the age of six. He earned his undergraduate degree at the University of Maryland, following in his father's and grandfather's footsteps by studying mathematics, as well as computer science. After graduation, he moved to Stanford to acquire a Ph.D in computer science. There he met Larry Page, with whom he later became friends. They crammed their dormitory room with inexpensive computers and applied Brin’s data mining system to build a superior search engine. The program became popular at Stanford and they suspended their PhD studies to start up Google in a rented garage.

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Sergey Brin was born in Moscow to Jewish parents,<5> the son of Michael Brin and Eugenia Brin, both graduates of Moscow State University. His father is a mathematics professor at the University of Maryland, and his mother is a research scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.

Childhood in the Soviet Union
In 1979, when Brin was six, his family felt compelled to emigrate to the United States. In an interview with Mark Malseed, author of The Google Story,<8> Sergey's father explains how he was "forced to abandon his dream of becoming an astronomer even before he reached college". Although an official policy of anti-Semitism didn't exist in the Soviet Union, Brin claims Communist Party heads barred Jews from upper professional ranks by denying them entry to universities; "Jews were excluded from the physics departments, in particular..." Michael Brin therefore changed his major to mathematics where he received nearly straight A's. He said, "Nobody would even consider me for graduate school because I was Jewish."<9> The Brin family lived in a three-room, 30 square meter (350 square foot) apartment in central Moscow, which they also shared with Sergey's paternal grandmother.<9> Sergey told Malseed, "I've known for a long time that my father wasn't able to pursue the career he wanted", but Sergey only picked up the details years later after they had settled in America. He learned how, in 1977, after his father returned from a mathematics conference in Warsaw, Poland, he announced that it was time for the family to emigrate. "We cannot stay here any more", he told his wife and mother. At the conference, he was able to "mingle freely with colleagues from the United States, France, England and Germany, and discovered that his intellectual brethren in the West were 'not monsters.'" He added, "I was the only one in the family who decided it was really important to leave..."<9>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin


Eric Schmidt : The Guy from Spooky Blacksburg, Virginia
Eric Emerson Schmidt (born April 27, 1955(1955-04-27))<3> is an engineer, a former member of the board of directors of Apple Inc.,<4> and executive chairman of Google. From 2001–2011, he served as CEO of Google. He is a co-author of the lex lexical analyzer software for Unix. He has also sat on the boards of trustees for Carnegie Mellon University<5> and Princeton University.<6>

Schmidt was born in Washington, D.C. and grew up in Blacksburg, Virginia. After graduating from Yorktown High School,<7> Schmidt attended Princeton University where he earned a B.S. in Electrical Engineering in 1976.<8> At the University of California, Berkeley, he earned an MS in 1979 for designing and implementing a network linking the campus computer center, the CS and the EECS departments,<9> and a PhD in 1982 in EECS with a dissertation about the problems of managing distributed software development and tools for solving these problems.<10> He was joint author of lex (a lexical analyzer and an important tool for compiler construction). He taught at Stanford Business School as a part time professor.<11>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt


March-August 2001 : Blacksburg Virginia Guy brought in To Run Google
Schmidt left Novell after the acquisition of Cambridge Technology Partners. Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin interviewed Schmidt. Impressed by him,<16> they recruited Schmidt to run their company in 2001 under the guidance of venture capitalists John Doerr and Michael Moritz.

...

Schmidt joined Google's board of directors as chairman in March 2001 and became the company's CEO in August 2001. At Google, Schmidt shared responsibility for Google's daily operations with founders Page and Brin. As indicated by page 29 of Google's 2004 S-1 Filing<17> Schmidt, Page, and Brin ran Google as a triumvirate. Schmidt had legal responsibilities typically assigned to the CEO of a public company and focused on management of the vice presidents and the sales organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt


More here on Spooky Communities in Virginia:


A bit of history on that other magical year : 1979
1979 : Beginnings of the U.S. and Saudi creation of Al-Qaeda to fight the Soviets
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=274634&mesg_id=278141





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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-11 11:45 PM
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71. U.S. GOP wants Dems to lift ban on Estonian/Luxembourg based Skype + Russian Cyber Spies in Estonia
Edited on Sun Jul-03-11 12:07 AM by CrunchMaster
Do Michele Bachmann and GOP want to set Democrats up to be spied on by foreign countries?

Why would an American want to open up American politicians to possible blackmail by asking that they use a communications service run by a foreign country(Luxembourg and Estonia)?

If you remember that Michele "Armed and Dangerous" Bachmann and Sarah "Secessionist " Palin belong to that part of America that wants to tank the U.S. Federal government so that rampaging bands of religious whackos can take it over and begin their crusade against gay sex, cuhludds, abortion and "handouts" to Americans(except Defense workers and the Ultra rich)... then of course this all makes a bit of sense.

Michele Bachmann wants Congress to use Skype despite security concerns:
House to use Skype for constituent calls, despite security concerns
Technology experts for the House of Representatives said in a memo Tuesday that House members will now be able to use the free Internet-based phone and videoconferencing service Skype.

Security concerns had originally stopped the House from allowing use of Skype, logisticians explained to The Hill.

“There’s a concern about having items broadcast that may be classified in nature,” Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), head of the House Technology Operations Team, said. “You suddenly put cameras in all these offices, you want to be able to make sure that those can’t be turned on remotely.”

The House has a modified license agreement with Skype and ooVoo, another teleconferencing service, that “will require members, officers, committee chairs, officials and staff to accept House-specific agreements that comply with House Rules and maximize protection for members and staff,” according to Lungren.

However,Skype was recently acquired by Microsoft, and was mentioned by the computer giant in 2009 as a program that could work with technology that lets spies easily record communications channeled through the service.

Congressional communications have also been privy to a very recent hack: earlier this month, hacker group LulzSec pried its way into the Senate computer system and released some internal data from the senate.gov server.
Despite these potential vulnerabilities, each congressional office will be outfitted with a Skype account, and individuals are to configure their own privacy settings. The accounts, the letter states, are only to be used over the House public wi-fi system.
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Some House members, including current presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), have been pushing for the ban on Skype to be lifted for a year, according to CBS News.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/28/house-to-use-skype-for-constituent-calls-despite-security-concerns/


Republicans seem to be behind the push to activate Skype(which is now active)
House enables use of Skype, video teleconferencing for members
Members had been clamoring for use of such communications technologies for more than a year. In April 2010, House Republicans sent a letter to then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and then-House Administration Committee Chairman Robert Brady (D-Pa.) requesting implementation of Skype. Several months later, then-Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) backed the request.
...
The congressional network security team worked closely with Skype engineers to ensure secure usage, according to Staci Pies, director of government and regulatory affairs for Skype in North America.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/168727-house-enables-use-of-skype-video-teleconferencing-for-members?utm_source=@USHouseNews


GOP Lawmakers: Let Us Use Skype!
House Republicans are pushing this week for Democrats to remove blocks on their ability to use the Internet-based phone and video service Skype.

"Skype and similar technologies offer a unique opportunity to connect elected officials and their constituents while saving taxpayer dollars," Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) said in a release. "House Republicans are listening to Americans and have asked to use Skype to communicate, but Speaker Pelosi and House Democrats continue to block its use. It's time that Congress join the hundreds of millions of people worldwide using money-saving communications tools like Skype."
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Kyle Anderson, Communications Director for the Committee on House Administration, told Hotsheet that Skype, technically, isn't banned.
"Rather, the peer2peer software which is the basis for Skype has been deemed a risk to House information systems infrastructure," he said in an e-mail. "That original determination was made in August of 2006 (when Republicans were in the Majority and in control of the House) and reaffirmed in an IT security review, the results of which were issued in December of 2009."
http://digg.com/story/r/GOP_Lawmakers_Let_Us_Use_Skype


Who owns Skype? The company is HQ'd in Luxembourg with operations mainly in Estonia. It is owned mainly by Microsoft and Ebay
Skype has also become popular for its additional features which include instant messaging, file transfer, and video conferencing. Skype has 663 million registered users as of 2010.<1> The network is operated by Skype Limited, which has its headquarters in Luxembourg. Most of the development team and 44% of the overall employees of Skype are situated in the offices of Tallinn and Tartu, Estonia.<2><3>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype


Estonia is on the western border of Russia.

Hmmmm...

The article above says that Tallinn, Estonia is one of the locations for Skype's development team. Ok. What else is going on in Tallinn? Oh, that just happens to be the heart of NATO's "Cyber Defence Centre". Notice the spelling. Not American.. So Estonian based Skype will be a service used by American politicians to discuss their business. Seems like a dumb thing to do. Then again, bankrupting the country in a war in Iraq and 10 others places seems like a dumb thing to do unless of course what you are trying to do is intentionally destroy the USA.

Estonia training Nato 'techies' for cyberwar
EUOBSERVER / TALLINN - In an unassuming, renovated military barracks dating back to tsarist times, Nato's cyber defence centre (CCD COE) in Tallinn is training computer experts to secure networks from attacks.
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The Nato training centre, set up in 2008, is host to some 30 experts from Germany, Estonia, Spain, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania and Slovakia. It organises training seminars and simulations, and examines the legal aspects of cyber defence for military personnel in Nato countries and for defence contractors.
...
One of the trainings on offer from the CCD COE is "botnet infiltration" - learning how to 'take over' the command of a network of zombie computers scattered around the world used to attack governmental or private servers. This is the type of attack Estonia experienced five years ago, with Russia suspected of being behind it.
http://euobserver.com/13/32479


Wait. It gets better...
Russian Spies in Tallin, Estonia Penetrate NATO and Pass U.S. Cyber-Defence Secrets on to Russians
A spy at the heart of Nato may have passed secrets on the US missile shield and cyber-defence to Russian Intelligence, it has emerged.

Herman Simm, 61, an Estonian defence ministry official who was arrested in September, was responsible for handling all of his country's classified information at Nato, giving him access to every top-secret graded document from other alliance countries.

He was recruited by the Russians in the late 1980s and has been charged in Estonia with supplying information to a foreign power.

Several investigation teams from both the EU and Nato, under the supervision of a US officer, have flown to the Estonian capital Tallinn to assess the scope of what is being seen as the most serious case of espionage against Nato since the end of the Cold War.

“The longer they work on the case, the more obvious it becomes how big the impact of the suspected treachery really is,” according to Der Spiegel magazine. A German official described the Russian penetration of Nato as a "catastrophe".

Comparisons are being drawn with the case of Aldrich Ames, the former head of the CIA counter-intelligence department who was in effect Russia's top agent in the US.
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Mr Simm was ensnared because of blunders that have dogged modern espionage ever since the KGB first pitted itself against the West. First, he bought up several pieces of valuable land and houses including a farmhouse on the Baltic Sea and a grand white-painted villa outside Tallinn.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5166227.ece


Maybe we should think twice then about U.S. politicians using Estonia based Skype to handle their communications? Don't count on it. Republicans don't give a shit about the United States of America. Their goal is to destroy it. And Democrats are too chicken to do anything about it. When was the last time you heard a fucking Republican talk about doing anything for actual Americans other than selling us out for pennies on the dollar to the highest bidder, regardless of whether it is Russia, China, Pakistan or some other fucking non Democratic country? Is Tom Delay in jail for sending American tax dollars to the Russians and running wage slaves in foreign countries competing with American workers? No.

REPUBLICANS DO NOT WORK FOR THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. PERIOD.


Back to Skype and Estonia

A country on the Russian border known for its penetration by Russian spies wants to handle NATO's Cyber Security needs? uh huh. That makes sense.

Estonia, NATO's most IT-savvy nation
Estonia – described by NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer as "Nato's most IT-savvy nation" – conducts much of its government and commercial business online. People vote and pay their taxes online, government meetings involve almost no paperwork.
As a result, when it angered Russia in 2007, by removing a Soviet war memorial, it became the target of hostile attacks on the internet. Estonia has been lobbying hard to put cyber-defence on the Nato agenda, and has set up a Cyber Defence centre in Tallinn which is supposed to help the Alliance as a whole. Now that project could be compromised.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5166227.ece


Tallin, Estonia, NATO's Cyber Defense HQ?
To counter such threats, a group of NATO members, including the U.S. and Germany, last year established a kind of internal cybersecurity think tank, based in a former government building in Tallinn, Estonia. The 30 staffers at the Cooperative Cyber Defense Centre of Excellence analyze emerging viruses and other threats, and pass on alerts to sponsoring NATO governments. They are also working to bring the allies together on the elusive issues that deepen the fog of cyberwar.
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/04/17/the-fog-of-cyberwar.html


The choice of Estonia as the home to NATO's new cyberwar brain trust is not accidental. In 2007 Estonia was in a public squabble with Russia over the fate of a Soviet-era monument when it suddenly found itself under a wave of cyberattacks. Among the targets were two of Estonia's biggest banks, whose online systems were severely degraded for several hours.
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/04/17/the-fog-of-cyberwar.html


I would think that if Russian based cyberattacks against NATO was the reason for setting up a Cyber-Security group to protect NATO, you might want to set that HQ up in place without so many Russians in the population and not sitting a few miles from the Russian border.

More on those Russian spies in Tallinn, Estonia workin on Cyber Attack Defense of NATO and Secret Data flow.
Second, his contact officer got careless and tried to recruit a second agent – who reported the incident to the security authorities. That is when the Estonian mole-hunters began to reconstruct the movements of the supposed Spaniard and followed the thread back to the agent inside Nato.

But Mr Simm was not some relic from the days of Kim Philby or other notorious deep-cover agents. He was at the cutting edge of one of Nato’s most important new strategic missions: to defend the alliance against cyber-attack.

Mr Simm headed government delegations in bilateral talks on protecting secret data flow. And he was an important player in devising EU and Nato information protection systems.

...

The other important question in the Simm case is whether he was operating alone. A senior Estonian police officer claimed asylum in Britain in the 1990s reportedly telling the authorities that he was trying to escape pressure from the Russian secret service to sell secrets.

The Russians, it seems, were keen to buy as many place-men as they could: the prospect of Nato forces hard up against the northern Russian border was too alarming for the Kremlin. Moreover, Mr Simm was for many years in charge of issuing security clearance: he could have nodded through other Russian agents.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5166227.ece


The attack revealed the vulnerability of a NATO member to external pressure. If a group in Russia could wreak so much havoc over a statue, imagine what a state-sponsored effort could do? Attackers could infect and gain control of thousands of computers—much like GhostNet did—and go after banks all across Europe, leading to digital chaos—online banking would go down, credit-card purchases couldn't be verified. Factor in electricity grids, dams and airport navigation systems, which are connected to the Internet, and it begins to sound like a Hollywood movie.
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/04/17/the-fog-of-cyberwar.html


Security Concerns regarding SKYPE
Unlike other VoIP services, Skype is a peer-to-peer system rather than a client–server system, and makes use of background processing on computers running Skype software; the original name proposed – Sky peer-to-peer – reflects this.

Some network administrators have banned Skype on corporate,<4> government, home, and education networks,<5> citing reasons such as inappropriate usage of resources, excessive bandwidth usage,<6> and security concerns.<7>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype


As mentioned above, Skype's HQ is in Luxembourg. Luxembourg is known to be a location where terrorist money(including Bin Laden's) was laundered. Kind of makes sense that if you were involved with illegal activities like laundering money for terrorists, drug runners and wealthy tax dodgers, you might want to have a communications infrastructure to pry into the business of your enemies and competitors so you can blackmail them into silence.

Would be interesting to see if there were any direct ties from the European banking system to communications backbones like Skype that have the ability to snoop around in your communications.

More on the banking systems in Luxembourg and Brussels (NATO HQ) and ties to terrorism and tax evasion:

A controversial European book that might help authorities track terrorist funding sources remains unpublished and relatively unknown in the United States.

Entitled "Revelation$," it exposes a secret banking system that might be used by terrorists. At the center is a clearinghouse in Luxembourg called Clearstream, which transfers money for international banks and major companies.

Written by a former high-ranking Clearstream official and a French journalist, its publication last February by Les Arenes in Paris triggered the firing of Clearstream's top officials, a judicial inquiry in Luxembourg, and invitations to the authors to address members of the European Parliament and the French parliamentary commission on financial crime and money-laundering.
Authors Ernest Backes -- a former banker who helped design and install the clearinghouse's computerized accounting system in the 1970s -- and investigative reporter Denis Robert described a potential money laundering and tax evasion system that uses unpublished accounts to provide investors with a veil of secrecy.

...

Clients of Clearstream can be bankers, investment managers, offshore companies, tax evaders, officials of secret services, the CEOs of multinationals -- or terrorists.
For example, the records list a Clearstream account belonging to Bahrain International Bank, which is suspected of moving Osama bin Laden's money.
Clearstream and another clearinghouse, Euroclear -- based in Brussels -- transfer titles in 150 million transactions each year, involving more than US$7 billion in assets.
http://www.alternet.org/story/11650/tracking_terrorist_money_--_too_hot_for_u.s._to_handle/


Money laundering Honey Trap Clearinghouses Euroclear and Swift are based in Brussels Belgium(home of NATO HQ, wink, wink). Kind of reminds you of that other Terrorist Honey Trap BCCI run by Pakistan and the Saudis, the U.S. and others(see Safari Club). Now this may all now be starting to sound suspiciously familiar.... afterall the BCCI was incorporated in Luxembourg:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Finance_Tracking_Program

Same old Tune : BCCI + Safari Club + Terrorist Proxies + Secret Illegal Financing
And of course behind all of these Honey Trap Clearing Houses that secretly finance these terrorists and wars you and I are expect to pay for and fight in, you find the true root of the world's terrorism problem... a rats nest of intelligence agencies (Anti-Communist and Communist) clandestinely at war with each other and destroying everything in their path using networks of terrorist proxies.

The Anti-Communist side of the Proxy Terror War equation
1976: CIA and Other Intelligence Agencies Use BCCI to Control and Manipulate Criminals and Terrorists Worldwide
Investigative journalist Joseph Trento will later report that in 1976, the Safari Club, a newly formed secret cabal of intelligence agencies (see September 1, 1976-Early 1980s), decides it needs a network of banks to help finance its intelligence operations. Saudi Intelligence Minister Kamal Adham is given the task. “With the official blessing of George H. W. Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed a small Pakistani merchant bank, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a world-wide money-laundering machine, buying banks around the world to create the biggest clandestine money network in history.” BCCI was founded in 1972 by a Pakistani named Agha Hasan Abedi, who was an associate of Adham’s. Bush himself has an account at BCCI established while still director of the CIA. French customs will later raid the Paris BCCI branch and discover the account in Bush’s name.
Bush, Adham, and other intelligence heads work with Abedi to contrive “a plan that seemed too good to be true. The bank would solicit the business of every major terrorist, rebel, and underground organization in the world. The intelligence thus gained would be shared with ‘friends’ of BCCI.” CIA operative Raymond Close works closely with Adham on this. BCCI taps “into the CIA’s stockpile of misfits and malcontents to help man a 1,500-strong group of assassins and enforcers.”
...
Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi intelligence from 1979, will say in a 2002 speech in the US, “In 1976, after the Watergate matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by Congress. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Iran.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=safari_club_1


America's #1 Terrorist Provocateur Bin Laden, operated in Luxembourg and Amsterdam Netherlands through his holding companies which fronted for opium sales:
The Paris-based newspaper Al Watan Al Arabi has reported that bin Laden operates through holding companies in Luxembourg and Amsterdam; that he pays people unconnected to his movement to act as front men; and that he handles the multibillion-dollar opium earnings of his hosts in the extremist Muslim Taliban movement, who control Afghanistan.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/eafricabombing/stories/binladen082898.htm


Luxembourg says no money laundering going on
Last July, Luxembourg authorities announced that their investigation of Clearstream found no money-laundering activity. Backes and other critics say that investigators ignored the issue of the secret accounts. Backes has met with European officials to urge that the clearinghouses be audited by an international, public entity.

...

Major companies use the secret accounts. Backes discovered non-published accounts of the Dutch agricultural multinational Unilever. The Shell petroleum group had a non-published account in the name Shell Overseas Trading Ltd. The German giant Siemens had four non-published accounts.
Among the international banks with the most secret accounts are: Citibank (271); Barclays (200); Credit Lyonnais (23); and the Japanese company Nomura (12).
There are 2,000 investment companies, banks and subsidiaries of banks -- principally British, German American, Italian, French or Swiss -- with Clearstream unpublished accounts based in tax havens such as the Cayman Islands, which in turn offer local secret accounts -- a double layer of secrecy.

...

The U.S. and other countries have to ask why such a secret system should exist in Clearstream or in Euroclear, the competing house. Why Shell and the Bank of New York, for example, need secret accounts. And why Clearstream -- called one of the "black boxes of financial globalization" by some European judges -- remains a secret.
http://www.alternet.org/story/11650/tracking_terrorist_money_--_too_hot_for_u.s._to_handle/


I wonder how many Republicans have their money in these foreign accounts in order to avoid paying taxes? How many U.S. corporations have sent their money to these banks? While the USA rots?

A BIT OF HISTORY OF SKYPE
That Magical Year 2003 (Iraq War)
Skype was founded in 2003 by Niklas Zennström from Sweden, Janus Friis from Denmark and Samuel Gray from New Jersey.<19> The Skype software was developed by Estonians Ahti Heinla, Priit Kasesalu and Jaan Tallinn, who were also behind the peer-to-peer file sharing software Kazaa.<20> In April 2003, Skype.com and Skype.net domain names were registered. In August 2003, the first public beta version was released.

...

In September 2005, SkypeOut was banned in China.<23> In October of the same year, eBay purchased Skype<24> for $2.6 billion.<25> (In 2011, the Ars Technica estimated the purchase price at $3.1 billion, not $2.6 billion.)<26> In December 2005, videotelephony was introduced.<27>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype


Ebay Owned by French-Iranian
Omidyar was born in Paris, France to Iranian immigrant parents, and had been sent by his grandparents to attend university there.<3> His mother Elahé Mir-Djalali Omidyar, who did her doctorate in linguistics at the Sorbonne, is herself a well-known academic.<4> His father was a surgeon.<5> The family moved to the US when Omidyar was six. His name "Pierre" is a French form of the name Peter<6>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Omidyar


Linguistics...hmmm... uh.. I wonder if... nah.. I'll be nice and not make assumptions....

Ebay founder grew up in Washington, D.C.
Growing up in Washington, D.C., Pierre's interest in computers began at the Potomac School, which started to increase when he was in the 9th grade. He attended St. Andrew's Episcopal School in Potomac, Maryland. He graduated from St. Andrew's in 1984, and in 1988, he graduated with a degree in computer science from Tufts University. Shortly after, Omidyar went to work for Claris, an Apple Computer subsidiary, where he helped write MacDraw. In 1991 he co-founded Ink Development, a pen-based computing startup that was later rebranded as an e-commerce company and renamed eShop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Omidyar


A French-Iranian guy with one linguist parent who lives in Washington D.C. Hmmmm... I wonder if he was for or against a war in Iraq?
France, Iran, Washington D.C., ... What were those member nations of the Safari Club again?

Ownership History of Skype
Two original founders depart and new CEO appointed
For the six months after the departure of Niklas and Janus, Michael van Swaaij led the company as Interim CEO, until the appointment of Josh Silverman in February 2008.<36> Silverman was "widely viewed as bringing in stability to Skype after a tumultuous phase that followed the exit of the two Skype co-founders."<37> Under Silverman's 2.5 year tenure, the company focused its product efforts around video calling, ubiquity (gaining high penetration on smartphones, PCs, TVs, and consumer-electronic devices), building tailored offerings for enterprise customers, and diversifying revenue through subscriptions, premium accounts and advertising.

...

eBay sells 70%
Building on the revitalization which had begun in 2008, eBay announced, in April 2009, plans to spin off Skype through an initial public offering in 2010.<48> In August, Joltid filed a motion with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, seeking to terminate a licensing agreement with eBay which allows eBay (and therefore Skype) to use the peer-to-peer communications technology on which Skype is based. If successful, this may have caused a shutdown of Skype in its current form, and made an IPO challenging to execute.<49> In September, eBay announced the sale of 65 per cent of Skype to a consortium of Index Ventures and Silver Lake Partners. Early in September, Skype shut down the Extras developer program.<50> In November Skype settled the Joltid litigation and acquired all Skype technology in exchange for equity in the company<51> and eBay completed the sale of 70% of Skype to a consortium comprising Silver Lake Partners, Joltid, CPPIB, and Andreessen Horowitz for approximately $2 billion, valuing the entire business at US$2.75 billion.<52>

...

Acquisition by Microsoft
On 10 May 2011, Microsoft announced it had agreed to acquire Skype for $8.5 billion.<61> This marked a 300% increase in value for the company in the three years since the eBay write-down in October 2007. It will be Microsoft's largest acquisition ever.<62> Skype will be a division within Microsoft, with Skype's former CEO Tony Bates —now its president —reporting to Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer.<63> The price Microsoft agreed to pay for the company is 32 times Skype's operating profits.<64> According to the Financial Times this raises fears of a new tech bubble.<64> Ars Technica and the BBC have questioned the value for Microsoft in the purchase.<65><66>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype


Ebay Ownership now down to about 30%
eBay Inc. (NASDAQ: is the immediate winner here in this Skype-Microsoft tie-up. eBay is still a partial owner of close to 30% of Skype after selling its majority interest. $8.5 billion is much higher than what the IPO value was going to be, and now eBay can realize an instant win here. In effect it will have sold Skype twice if you think about it. Shares are up about 4% at $34.45 pre-market
http://247wallst.com/2011/05/10/secondary-valuation-winners-after-skype-microsoft-deal-msft-goog-csco-ctxs-ebay-pgi-call-vg-rvsn-plcm/


Back to Skype in Estonia...
Skype of Estonia(that country where a NATO cyber security guy was a Russian agent), Skype of Estonia hints that yes, they can listen in on your Skype calls... winkety, wink wink, hear that Dumb Democratic Party Leadership(DDPL)? )
In an interview Kurt Sauer, the Chief Security Officer of Skype, said, "We provide a safe communication option. I will not tell you whether we can listen or not."<[109> Skype's client uses an undocumented and proprietary protocol. The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is concerned by user privacy issues arising from using proprietary software and protocols and has made a replacement for Skype one of their high priority projects.<110> Security researchers Biondi and Desclaux have speculated that Skype may have a back door, since Skype sends traffic even when it is turned off and because Skype has taken extreme measures to obfuscate their traffic and functioning of their program.<111> Several media sources reported that at a meeting about the "Lawful interception of IP based services" held on 25 June 2008, high-ranking unnamed officials at the Austrian interior ministry said that they could listen in on Skype conversations without problems. Austrian public broadcasting service ORF, citing minutes from the meeting, reported that "the Austrian police are able to listen in on Skype connections". Skype declined to comment on the reports.<112><113>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype


More on Skype Security and Privacy concerns from a 2005 article here:
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/357

The Democrats have set themselves up again. Expect more Wienergates and more Useless Democrats doing the bidding of Republicans regardless of what the Democratic base wants.

Are we still dropping billions of U.S. dollars in the Middle East fighting terrorists funded by drug money stashed in secretive European banks and the American tax dollars pouring into terrorist supporting countries like Pakistan(where Bin Laden was being coddled all these years) Why yes we are! What are American politicians doing about the wholesale destruction of the USA? Absolutely nothing.

They are now saying the cost of the wars is at 3.7 Trillion and counting. That is about $18,000 for each adult man and woman in the USA. That doesn't include the 14 trillion U.S. debt (owned in large part by China) and the Trillions paid to Wall Street banks.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43573008/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/t/cost-us-wars-least-trillion-study-finds/

In other News
American Provocateur Glen Beck makes another Crypto-Assassination Threat against Obama(blacks) and Sunstein(Jews)
Beck Asks, "Why Would You Get A Gun?" -- Then Points To Pictures Of Obama, Sunstein
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201106130022


Later, after being called out by angry New York filmgoers for being the hatemongering piece of shit he is, Glenn Beck has decided to pack up his bags and move to Texas where I imagine he assumes assassination talk against American presidents is more favorable.

Happy 4th of July America. Enjoy them while you still can.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #69
72. Murdochgate : Murdoch, the UK Conservative Elite, the Rothschild bankers and Russian Billionares
Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 02:45 PM by CrunchMaster
So Rupert Murdoch's piece of shit blackmail rag the News of the World has gone down in flames. Rather than clean up the News of the World Murdoch has decided to fire the entire staff and create 200 or so unemployed overnight. That's what Murdoch does: Destroys your world to pad out his bottom line.

Rupert Murdoch is an Asshole.

Murdoch's News of the World has been spying on the voicemails of UK celebrities, politicians and even the Royal family since at least 2006. Instead of firing the people responsible for this crime he shuffled them around between his various political blackmail organizations(tabloids). When it just recently became known that these assholes hacked into the phones of murdered children, London 7/7 victims and Iraq war vets the Brits had apparently Had Quite the Fuck Enough and went off on Murdoch and his asshole minions.

Did you know that on August 22, 2008, it was reported that Murdoch's yacht and the yacht of Russia's wealthiest oligarch(Oleg Deripska) were both parked in Corfu in the waters near a Rothschild estate? Why were Murdoch and the Russian billionaire both hanging out in Corfu Greece courting the same UK politicians (George Osborne and Lord Mandelson). Rebekah Brooks(Wade) was also present.
http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/wire/4070

Did you know that Lord Mandelson used to be a member of the Young Communist League?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mandelson

Did you know that Russian Billionaire Deripska's right hand man is a KGB vet?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081464/Veteran-KGB-spy-revealed-right-hand-man-Mandelsons-oligarch-friend.html

Did you know that Nat Rothschild who invited the UK politicians to meet with Russian billionaire Deripska, made the majority of his wealth off of Russian interests?

Mr Rothschild, 37, is not only the heir to a £750 million fortune, but is wealthy in his own right.He manages funds worth £11 billion through the Atticus hedge fund and has apparently accrued much of his wealth through his role as Mr Deripaska’s adviser. He also has friendships that traverse the political divide.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4982265.ece


WTF is Murdoch doing hanging out with all of these shady characters? Why, he's doing what he does best of course.

Working with transnational elites to steer your wealth and the wealth of people in other countries into the hands of the privileged few.



Rupert Murdoch runs a transnational protection racket for the ultra rich. Murdoch doesn't care if you are American, Russian,
British, Australian... doesn't matter as long as you are down with the plan to wreck democracies and appropriate wealth for the ultra elite.

Murdoch and his News Empire have gone unchallenged. Even when threatening the life of heads of state.

Glenn Beck on Murdoch's Fox News has made at least two crypto-assassination threats against Obama. Another news anchor on Fox recently said that Obama had been killed. Fox's twitter feed was recently "hacked" and reported that Obama had been assassinated.

WHAT OTHER FUCKING NEWS AGENCY HAS CALLED OUT OBAMA'S ASSSASSINATION AS MANY TIMES AS FOX??? WHAT OTHER NEWS AGENCY HAS EVEN DONE IT ONE TIME???

America's elite ruling class has done absolutely NOTHING about it any of this.

That is how they keep Obama on task with such things as destroying social security and protecting tax breaks for the ultra rich. Glenn Beck has since moved to Texas where I imagine the same networks that killed JFK will find Glenn Beck a useful patsy idiot for making the occasional death threat against Obama to keep him in line.

Murdoch and Fox News were also instrumental in stealing the 2000 election for Bush.

Murdoch and and his cronies were also instrumental in helping to shove the Patriot Act down America's throat.

Murdoch and his News outlets helped to lie the USA and UK into war in Iraq and Afghanistan. This war is costing Americans TRILLIONS of dollars. This money is going to Murdoch's corporate buddies and certain Transnational interests. (I bet Russia loves the fact that the USA is wrecking its economy with all of these dumbass wars against terrorists Pakistan is funding with U.S. tax dollars).

Rupert Murdoch and his News outlets and blackmail rags are working to destabilize democracies around the world in favor of the wealthy elite.

Rupert Murdoch's henchman in the UK have been hacking the phones and listening in on the private messages of celebrities, politicians
and even the British Royal Family. And Rupert Murdoch has not been punished. That is all you need to understand that he is blackmailing his targets.

I called it a long time ago. The tabloids(of which Murdoch owns many) are in the business of blackmail. How else could Rupert Murdoch spy
on the communications of the British Royal Family for so long uncontested?

The same thing is obviously going on here in the USA. It was only a few weeks back that some mysterious characters had been watching Anthony Weiner and predicting a major news story was about to bust. The same day that Anthony Weiner sent a Texas woman (Meagan Broussard) a picture of himself, a character named Mike Stack(Goatsred) tweeted:

"A big bomb about to burst: Rumor on the Right Coast is that a "big time" Congressman was caught with a mistress. There are pix and a top five Right-Wing blogger has them."

It is becoming obvious that Anthony Weiner's private communications were being watched. The claim made on DailyKos is that this
was a "Christian Infowar Cell" operating out of Oklahoma:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/04/982122/-Breaking:-Christian-Infowar-Militia-Attacked-Congressman-Weiner

Fox News friend and professional blackmailer Andrew Breitbart then stepped in to take Weinergate national.

America you are fooling yourself if you think that Rupert Murdoch and his thugs were only hacking phones in the UK. This is almost certainly happening here in the U.S. too.

More to be said about this later.



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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:50 AM
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73. McCain + Russian Billionaire Deripaska + The Kremlin + Rothschilds + Democracy Wreckers
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 04:50 AM by CrunchMaster
Excerpts from the Nation :
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties?page=0,0

GOP Sellouts and the Kremlin

McCain's Kremlin Ties
Mark Ames and Ari Berman
October 1, 2008
Yet despite McCain's tough talk, behind the scenes his top advisers have cultivated deep ties with Russia's oligarchy--indeed, they have promoted the Kremlin's geopolitical and economic interests, as well as some of its most unsavory business figures, through greedy cynicism and geopolitical stupor. The most notable example is the tale of how McCain and his campaign manager, Rick Davis , advanced what became a key victory for the Kremlin: gaining control over the small but strategically important country of Montenegro.

According to two former senior US diplomats who served in the Balkans, Davis and his lobbying firm, Davis Manafort, received several million dollars to help run Montenegro's independence referendum campaign of 2006. The terms of the agreement were never disclosed to the public, but top Montenegrin officials told the US diplomats that Davis's work was underwritten by powerful Russian business interests connected to the Kremlin and operating in Montenegro. Neither Davis nor the McCain campaign responded to repeated requests for comment.

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...Denis MacShane, Blair's former Europe minister, wrote in Newsweek in June. The takeover of Montenegro has been a Russian geostrategic victory--quietly accomplished, paradoxically enough, with the help of McCain and his top aides.
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties


Montenegro, Resource Theft, The Russians, Assholes and Yachts
So Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska's yacht rolls up in Montenegro while John McCain happens to be there. Kind of like how Deripaska and Rupert Murdoch just happen to park there boats off Corfu and then schmooze the same UK politicians in August 2008
In mid-September The Nation's website published a photo of McCain celebrating his seventieth birthday in Montenegro in August 2006 at a yacht party hosted by convicted Italian felon Raffaello Follieri and his movie-star girlfriend Anne Hathaway. On the same day one of the largest mega-yachts in the world, the Queen K, was moored in the same bay of Kotor. This was where the real party was. The owner of the Queen K was known as "Putin's oligarch": Oleg Deripaska, controlling shareholder of the Russian aluminum giant RusAl, currently listed as the ninth-richest man in the world, with a rap sheet as abundant as his wealth. By mid-2005 Deripaska had already virtually taken control of Montenegro's economy by snapping up its aluminum plant, KAP--which accounts for up to 40 percent of the country's GDP and some 80 percent of its export earnings--in a nontransparent privatization tender strongly criticized by NGO watchdogs, Montenegrin politicians and journalists.
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties?page=0,0



Popeye walking up the gangplank of a yacht in some non-American place
(see that red Union Jack back there) about to meet with some felon and his
hot Hollywood girlfriend Anne Hathaway


Who does Deripaska take orders from? Answer : The Kremlin.
The Nation has learned that Deripaska told one of his closest associates that he bought the plant "because Putin encouraged him to do it." The reason: "the Kremlin wanted an area of influence in the Mediterranean."
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties


McCain meets Deripaska in Switzerland
Russia's virtual takeover of Montenegro was well under way by January 2006, when Rick Davis introduced Deripaska to McCain at a villa in Davos, Switzerland. They met again seven months later, at a reception in Montenegro celebrating McCain's birthday, as reported in the Washington Post.
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties


Deripaska is in Montenegro for McCain's birthday. And Deripaska was in Corfu when Murdoch was celebrating his daughter's birthday. Interesting.

Is celebrating birthdays in faraway places a cover for Republicans to hook up with shady Russian oligarchs?

Deripaska's Gangsta Style Rise To Power. Would Make Republicans proud.
The story of how Oleg Deripaska, 40, rose from a Cossack village to become a Putin-blessed aluminum tycoon with an estimated $40 billion fortune does not begin with a lemonade stand and old-fashioned elbow grease. Like most post-Soviet success stories, Deripaska's rise began abruptly and violently, during the chaotic reign of Boris Yeltsin . Among all the battles for control of valuable state assets in the 1990s, none were as bloody as the "aluminum wars," in which organized-crime gangs hired by competing interests assassinated dozens of executives, shareholders and bankers. During a visit to the United States in 1995, Deripaska threatened the lives of two aluminum rivals, Yuri and Mikhail Zhivilo, according to a RICO lawsuit filed against Deripaska in New York district court in 2000. The RICO case is just one of many lawsuits, including one filed in Israel by a former business partner claiming that Deripaska illegally wiretapped an Israeli cabinet minister. In addition, German prosecutors have begun a criminal money-laundering investigation in Stuttgart. (Deripaska did not respond to requests for comment.)
...
Throughout Putin's reign, Deripaska has adhered to an unwritten understanding between Putin and the oligarchs: as long as they support the Kremlin, they can operate with impunity.
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties


Republicans: Friends to Kremlin Controlled Billionaires and Gangsters
Despite rampant Russophobia among Republicans, Deripaska turned to powerful GOP figures to solve his problem--especially to Republicans connected with McCain. In 2003 Deripaska hired former presidential candidate Bob Dole , who had nearly picked McCain as his running mate, and Dole's lobbying partner Bruce Jackson (also a McCain aide) to lobby the State Department to overturn the visa ban, according to Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby of the Wall Street Journal. Over the next few years Dole's firm, Alston & Bird, was paid more than $500,000 to push for Deripaska's visa.
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties


The GOP, The Rothschild bankers and Russian Billionaire Deripaska
Deripaska also reached out to a Washington-based intelligence firm, Diligence, chaired by GOP foreign policy hand Richard Burt , McCain's top foreign policy adviser in 2000 and an adviser in '08 (Burt left Diligence in 2007 to join Henry Kissinger 's consulting firm). Deripaska's business partner in London, Nathaniel Rothschild, an heir to the English Rothschild fortune, bought a stake in Diligence, according to the New York Times and confirmed by a Rothschild spokesman. The firm offered Deripaska many useful services: corporate intelligence gathering, visa lobbying through considerable GOP connections and, crucially, help in obtaining a $150 million World Bank/European Bank for Reconstruction and Development loan for a Deripaska subsidiary, the Komi Aluminum Project. Getting the loan was useful in providing a layer of comfort to Western investors skittish about RusAl. So Diligence, now partly owned by Rothschild, provided a "due diligence" report to the World Bank, which the Bank then used to approve its loan to Deripaska.

Not surprisingly, the lobbying worked: in December 2005 Deripaska was issued a multientry US visa, according to the State Department. During his brief stay he signed his World Bank loan, spoke at a Carnegie Endowment meeting and attended a dinner for Harvard University's Belfer Center, where, thanks to a generous donation, he became a member of its international council.
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties


The FBI revokes Deripaska's Visa. The GOP busts its ass to get the Kremlin's #1 Billionaire back in Favor with the USA
However, Deripaska's trip did not end well. Under the visa's terms, he was forced to endure lengthy FBI questioning. According to the mining-industry newsletter Mineweb, the list of his enemies had grown from jilted former business partners to the heads of powerful US metals companies and government officials unhappy with RusAl's control of key Third World bauxite mines, which threatened beleaguered US aluminum giants. The interview went badly--according to people who know him, Deripaska had little patience for prying bureaucrats. When he left the country, the visa ban was reinstated. Once again Deripaska turned to powerful Republicans--this time, to McCain and campaign manager Davis, who arranged the January 2006 Davos introduction. The McCain campaign later claimed that "any contact between Mr. Deripaska and the senator was social and incidental," but afterward Deripaska thanked Davis for arranging "such an intimate setting." The Washington Post reported that Davis was "seeking to do business with the billionaire." Indeed, Deripaska's subsequent thank-you letter mentioned his possible investment in a metals company Davis represented through a hedge-fund client.
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties


McCain, the Rothschilds, the Russians and Democracy Wrecking in Montenegro
Soon after the referendum, the powerful figures behind Montenegro's independence were carving up the country. That summer Rothschild started discussions with top Montenegrin officials about gaining control of the valuable shoreline, including the half-billion-dollar Porto Montenegro project, which aims to become the world's top mega-yacht marina, complete with luxury hotels, shopping and the country's first eighteen-hole golf course. The property was handed to the Munk-Rothschild-fronted offshore consortium for a pittance, according to MANS, the local NGO partner of Transparency International, in yet another backroom deal. Eventually, Deripaska's role in Porto Montenegro, which was initially secret, was formally acknowledged, although the full list of owners is still a mystery. Deripaska is also developing an 8 billion-euro resort in southern Montenegro and seeking control of a coal mine and a thermal power plant.
Roughly two years later, in March of this year, Rothschild hosted a high-dollar fundraiser for McCain at London's posh eighteenth-century Spencer House, which Rothschild donated for the occasion. Given the close relationship between Rothschild and Deripaska, some speculated that Deripaska was the hidden hand behind the event. The conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission, alleging that the fundraiser amounted to an illegal contribution by foreign nationals to McCain's campaign.
Aside from a little campaign dough, what has McCain gotten out of all this? It's hard to tell--either he was utterly clueless while his top advisers and political allies ran around the former Soviet domain promoting the Kremlin's interests for cash, or he was aware of it and didn't care.

...

But in the case of Montenegro, he should have known what Davis & Co. were up to. After all, McCain lent a helping hand. And by the time he visited the country, the Russian takeover was plain to see.

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When McCain's campaign proclaims "country first," one has to wonder, Which country? The one with the highest bidder?
http://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties?page=0,1


So what is this all about? Is the Republican party a Communist Sleeper cell in America?
No. Although I imagine there are probably some interesting videos of some of them taken aboard Russian Yachts. But this is not really about communism anymore. It is about Transnational collusion to wreck democracies and steal and then privatize wealth. That is the game being played. Republicans don't give a shit about the United States of America, the constitution or Americans. If they did, they wouldn't be colluding with Russians, the Chinese, or India to send jobs to sweatshops in third world countries. The United States as a country cannot survive when it is being gutted from the inside out like this. Republicans aren't stupid. They are complicit.

Republicans(and some Dems obviously) are in the business of Transferring Your Wealth Out of Your Accounts and into the hands of the nearest billionaire. And if those billionaires are in the USA, Russia, Germany, Switzerland, Iraq, Iran, Cuba or wherever, it doesn't matter as long as the money is in the hands of their associates.

Russian Vladimir Putin Showing something
Toe-sucking American Sellout Politicians
Apparently Lack : Balls
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 11:42 PM
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74. BP's Gulf of Mexico Wrecker Tony Hayward Teams up With Russian Billionaire Friend Nat Rothschild
A year ago the UK's Tony Hayward was Chief Executive of BP when they wrecked the Gulf of Mexico. Tony Gulf-Wrecker Hayward is now teaming up with friend to Russian Billionaires Nat Rothschild:

Tony Hayward Teams With Nat Rothschild For Post-BP Comeback
Redemption. Second chance. Comeback. Whatever you want to call it, we all deserve at least one, and Tony Hayward’s is well under way. Less than a year after leaving BP, Hayward has teamed with banking scion Nat Rothschild to forge a new future.

This week they celebrated the pubic listing of Vallares, a blank-check investment vehicle through which they intend to acquire as much as $10 billion in oil and gas assets. Investors were so keen to extend Hayward a new lease on life that the IPO raised $2.2 billion, far more than the $1 billion initially planned.

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At Vallares, look for this dynamic duo to focus on targets in Russia and the Middle East, where both men have ample relationships with players who would likely prefer to make deals with a small, nimble operator than with the likes of gargantuan BP. Other founders of Valleres include former Goldman Sachs banker Julian Metherell and investor Tom Daniel.
http://blogs.forbes.com/christopherhelman/2011/06/17/tony-hayward-teams-with-nat-rothschild-for-post-bp-comeback/


No, I am not Russian bashing, or UK bashing or even Rothschild Bashing. I am Billionaire Asshole bashing, pure and simple.
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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 09:36 AM
Response to Reply #72
75. Rightwing Pakistani Spy Story Spin + Pathological Assholes and Bullshit Propagators
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 09:56 AM by CrunchMaster
Matt Drudge, has posted a link to Politico, where Politico has given the story the following title:

"Report: NRSC, Obama donor arrested as Pakistan agent"


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0711/Report_NRSC_Obama_donor_arrested_as_Pakistan_agent.html

Click on the link and what do you find? You find that THIS ISI TIED PAKISTANI SPY DONATED MOSTLY TO REPUBLICANS

$6000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee
$5000 to Republican Dan Burton of Indiana
$250 To Barack Obama


Republican Dan Burton got way more money from this guy than Obama did. Ben Smith, didn't you work for the Indiana star? You still covering for Indiana fatcat Republicans??? $5000 is 20 times Obama's $250. Should have put Burton's name in the headline, asshole.

In the comments section, you will see dozen of idiots who apparently can't read going on about how Obama is a Pakistan agent, but totally ignoring the fact that THE MUCH LARGER MAJORITY OF THE GODDAMN MONEY WENT TO REPUBLICANS.

Obviously the Republican angle is the much bigger story... but not in brain damaged Republican KooKKoo Land.

Drudge highlighted this story as being about Obama. Politico did a bit better by putting NRSC in the headline.

Ben Smith who wrote the article is just another Wall Street stooge tasked by his masters with redirecting attention away from the real thieves stealing U.S. wealth and wrecking the country.

He was living in the former soviet Baltic states(Lithuania,Latvia) in 2001 carrying water for the Wall Street Journal Europe(I wonder if he picked up any tips there on USSR Propaganda, he's pretty good at it). And has a history of spreading lies and bullshit to further dumb down the USA in favor of Wallstreet. (Obummer, You Got Yer Birf Certificate Obummer?!)
http://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/5558/

From Intern to Wall Street Street Journal Europe
Now the New York Sun's city hall reporter, Ben Smith worked at the Baltic Times in Riga, Latvia, after starting first at the Indiana Star where he worked as a summer fellow. Smith had been planning to do an internship in the southern U.S. when he stumbled upon an opportunity with the Baltic Times, and went with it, out of the blue. “I thought Latvia would be more interesting than Alabama,” says Smith. He lined up a bunch of contacts before he even arrived in Riga, and began stringing for the Wall Street Journal Europe once he arrived. He worked as a stringer there for almost two years when he finally got the itch to return to his native New York after 9/11.
http://www.mediabistro.com/content/archives/03/01/15a/


In short, he works for Wall Street.. Not Americans. No surprise there.

4th and Inches from the White House


Here's 5 Minutes of Very Scary Audio of Michelle Bachmann
http://www.dumpbachmann.com/2008/10/audio-of-rep-michele-bachmanns-prayer.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBz2VbSN8g& Awesomer when you play it with this link at same time

America, how did you let yourself get to this point where the crazees are the Republican front runners for president?!?!?

YES, THAT MURDOCH GUY HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT




To be fair, Romney isn't in the same league of crazy ... except for the fact he probably wears Holy Underwear:



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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:10 AM
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76. Managing Editor of Murdoch's Wall Street Journal Married to Daughter of Chinese General
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 04:37 AM by CrunchMaster
Let me get one thing out of the way first. The fact that this guy fell in love with the daughter of Chinese General is no sin. Love is blind. This is not a race issue here, or an anti-Chinese issue. This is about the possible underlying politics that might be at play here. Nothing more.

So to anyone of Chinese ethnicity reading this, please do not take this as China bashing... Chinese communist government bashing...yes a little bit.

It is quite possible that there is nothing sinister at all about this relationship. But in light of Rupert Murdoch's Democracy Wrecking tendencies, and the Anti-Democracy stance of the Chinese government and army... it is interesting to know that Murdoch and the guy who he placed as #1 over at the Wall Street Journal, which is said to be now pumping out political bullshit to America's financial sector.... that these ties to communist China are very interesting to say the least. No, I don't believe Murdoch is a communist. Yes, I do believe he would get in bed with the communist Chinese government if he and his billionaire friends could make some money doing it. Of course none of this is occurring with out the full complicit approval of the Toe Suckers in Washington D.C. but that is another story.

Having said all that, check out some of the Democracy Wreckers ties to China:

Murdoch's Wall Street Journal Managing Editor, Robert Thomson : Adventures in China and How he Found a Wife
In the early 1980s, he went to Beijing for the Sydney Morning Herald, and began stringing for the Financial Times. He went on to become the FT's correspondent in the Chinese capital - where he met his wife, Wang Ping (with whom he has two young boys) - and then in Tokyo.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/the-interview-robert-thomson-530690.html


Murdoch's Wall Street Yes Man(Thomson) is married to the daughter of a communist Chinese general.
The similarities between the two men are uncanny. They share Australian roots and the same March 11 birthday, albeit 30 years apart. Both consider themselves citizens of the world, having lived on several different continents. Both are married to Chinese women and have children of about the same age.

The two families have vacationed together at Murdoch’s ranch in California, where Wendi Murdoch and Thomson’s wife, Wang Ping, speak Mandarin to each other, according to a 2007 profile of Thomson in the Canberra Times.

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His career took off when The Herald tapped him to go to Beijing at the age of 24, and he covered the crushing of the Tiananmen Square democracy protests by the Chinese army. That’s also where he met his wife, the daughter of a Chinese general, whom he married in a traditional Chinese ceremony in 1992.
http://news.muckety.com/2008/04/28/robert-thomson-is-heir-apparent-at-the-wall-street-journal/2421


Hmmmm.....

Murdoch's Right Hand Man Thomson and their Takeover of Wall Street
Thomson was a close advisor Murdoch in his acquisition of Dow Jones last year. More recently, as publisher of the Wall Street Journal, he has been a strong presence in the newsroom so his ascension to the top editorial post would not be a big leap. The question is how it will be received by the Journal’s old guard. Stay tuned.
http://news.muckety.com/2008/04/28/robert-thomson-is-heir-apparent-at-the-wall-street-journal/2421


Murdoch and his boy Thomson and their interest in China:
Marital Relations:
THOMSON: Married to Wang Ping, the daughter of a general in the Chinese People's Liberation Army.
MURDOCH: Married to Wendi Deng, the daughter of a worker in the Chinese People's Machinery Works.

Other Chinese Interests:
THOMSON: Co-author of The Chinese Army: An Illustrated History From The Long March to Tiananmen Square.
MURDOCH: Took BBC News off his Chinese TV network.
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Vacation Destination:
THOMSON: The Murdoch family ranch in California.
MURDOCH: The Murdoch family ranch in California.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/04/rupert_murdoch_and_robert_thom.html


Something about Rupert Murdoch smells fishy. Hard to put my finger on it. He seems to be a Propagandist for the Highest Bidder. His family has a history of being in the business of Race-Baiting, Mucking Around in Politics, and Pumping the Propaganda for Imperialist Wars all the way back to World War I.

Rupert’s father, Sir Keith, founded the dynasty during World War I as a dirty-tricks minion for “Billy” Hughes, probably Australia’s nastiest prime minister. His cover myth as a heroic war reporter has been so thoroughly dismantled that now it impresses none but family retainers.

At Versailles, Keith was Billy’s ever-present aide in striving to make the Peace Conference into a vicious cock-up, rich in racist and imperialist content.

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This ironic history yields two items of present relevance. One, we see the core of the Murdoch business: offering political propaganda services, disguised thinly as journalism. Two, there’s the stunning Murdoch talent for seizing the wrong end of any available political or military stick. Keith’s estimate of Monash and Rupert’s of the pseudo-warrior Bush Jr. were reciprocals, to be sure, but identically crass.
http://www.counterpunch.com/page07182011.html


Wendi Murdoch
The backstory on Wendi Murdoch is a bit murky. Suspicious even, according to some. She met an American man in China when she was a teen and he sponsored her to come to the U.S.A. There were sexy pictures, an affair, a broken marriage and then Wendi was on a fast track through Yale, back east to Murdoch's StarTV Hong Kong and then on to the top of Murdoch's Democracy Wrecking media empire... I don't like to judge but yes, I am a bit suspicious.

Some aspects of the new Mrs Murdoch you haven't read in the British press
The Mail on Sunday described how after Mr Murdoch's marriage to `the Yale graduate' there was a 12-minute firework display set to Frank Sinatra's `New York'. The Observer told readers how until guests arrived they thought they had been invited to an ordinary party, not a wedding. But it was a quiet and secretive affair. Mr Murdoch, who built his fortune on publicising details of the private lives of the rich and famous, told his PR people to say nothing.

In normal circumstances Wendy, at least, would be entitled to her privacy. She is said to be 'a very reserved and private person'. Many people are, but that does not stop Mr Murdoch's newspapers writing about them. I am afraid Wendy cannot entirely escape our notice, partly because she has just married the biggest hypocrite in the universe, Rupert Murdoch, and partly because she is, well, a person without a past. To read the scant reports that have appeared in the non-Murdoch press over recent months, you would think Wendy was a straightforward Yaleeducated Chinese-American. But it's not like that at all. Wendy was born in China, has lived most of her life in China, and has relatives there. The way in which she was drawn towards Mr Murdoch is at the very least intriguing, and possibly bizarre. She is a woman of mystery, and if she had married an ordinary billionaire, rather than a media tycoon who strikes fear into journalists and proprietors, she would have attracted a great deal of interest from newspapers.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3724/is_199907/ai_n8859382/


Wendi Murdoch lived in Guangzhou, China before moving to the U.S.A., possibly was a Model
Lague and Riley establish that Wendy was born in the north-eastern province of Shandong in the same year that Rupert Murdoch married a young Daily Mirror journalist called Anna Torv. Her family moved to Guangzhou, capital of the prosperous Guangdong province, when she was young. Almost nothing is known about her until she arrived in America in 1991. One source has told me that she worked as a photographic model in Canton where she married a much older Chinese-American husband before discovering that he had already tied the knot with someone else.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3724/is_199907/ai_n8859382/


Hmmmmm....

While in school in California at Cal State, associates say she was vague and contradictory about her background. Had lots of money.
Nor was Wendy forthcoming about her past while at Cal State. Lague and Riley assert that `workmates, friends, teachers and employers all report that she is vague and sometimes contradictory about her background'. She was also surprisingly wealthy. Lague and Riley quote one of her professors as saying that she was a brilliant student. After Cal State she went to Yale, but only for a year to what another source describes as the `unfashionable management school'. Then she met a News Corp executive called Bruce Churchill on a flight to Hong Kong in 1996, came across Murdoch at the Harbour Plaza hotel, and struck up a relationship with him. As one source put it to me, `Murdoch was often in Hong Kong pursuing his media interests in China, and he was lonely and this woman came along.' Wendy acted as an interpreter for Murdoch when he visited China last June.

This is really all that is so far known about Wendy. A handful of Sinologists and Murdoch-watchers are developing two rather different theories about her. One is that she has some sort of relationship with the Chinese authorities, and has been instrumental in making Mr Murdoch increasingly proChinese to the point when he told Chinese leaders last year that he approved of `every one' of their policies. According to these people, if a Chinese woman without a past has a chance meeting with a News Corp executive, and subsequently befriends the then-married Rupert Murdoch, we are entitled to wonder what is going on.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3724/is_199907/ai_n8859382/


Murdoch's Joint Venture with China's Phoenix TV
Ownership
Phoenix Satellite Television holdings Ltd is a public limited company. Shareholders include Today's Asia Ltd. with 37.5% of the company, China Mobile Hong Kong Company Limited with 19.9%, Xing Kong Chuan Mei Group Co., Ltd. (wholly owned by News Corporation) with 17.6%, China Wise International Ltd. with 8.3% and the public with 16.7%.<4>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Television


Phoenix TV's Relationship with the People's Republic of China : Good
Good relationship with the mainland
Phoenix has good relationships with the PRC government. In January 2003, the Chinese State Administration of Radio, Films and Television (SARFT) granted landing rights to Phoenix InfoNews Channel, making it one of the few non-government related television broadcasters in mainland China able to broadcast information about events not covered by the government media, such as the coverage on the Against Basic Law Article 23 Rally on 1 July 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Television


Wendi Murdoch had been vice-president of Star TV and its offshoot Phoenix. At the time Murdoch had a 45% stake in Phoenix
Running A Joint Venture With The Pla
By this stage she had been promoted to the position of vice-president
of Star, with main responsibility for its Chinese-language TV offshoot,
Phoenix
. News has a 45% stake in Phoenix, a joint-venture with a
company, as the Hong Kong euphemism has it, close to the People’s
Liberation Army (PLA).
It is a cable and satellite service which
broadcasts in Mandarin, and claims a 45 million viewership, whereas in
fact the 45 million relates only to those who could conceivably pick up
the station (it is mostly carried by the larger hotels catering to
foreign visitors).
http://www.crikey.com.au/2000/05/07/rupert-and-wendi-on-their-chinese-joyride/


Spies in Phoenix TV stealing U.S. Military Secrets for 15 Years : Story from 2005
Coming to Canada: China Spy TV?
Reports surfaced this month that four Chinese-Americans arrested on October 28 had managed to funnel secret U.S. military technology to Communist China for as long as 15 years. One of the four is a top executive of the North American division of Phoenix TV, the purportedly independent Hong Kong-based Chinese network that is now applying for broadcasting rights in Canada.

That man, Tai Wang Mak, had planned to fly from Los Angeles to Hong Kong and Guangzhou, China with his wife on October 28. They were arrested at their home before they could make the journey. Mak’s brother and his wife were also arrested. The intelligence breach said to have led to their arrests was described by some officials quoted in a Washington newspaper as the “most damaging” in 20 years.

Mak is Broadcast and Engineering Director for Phoenix in Los Angeles, but investigators suspect that he doubles as a courier or spy handler with China's Ministry of National Security, or the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), according to reports. In a statement on the arrest, Phoenix was quick to distance itself from Mak, saying it discovered the news from other media, and that Mak was acting on his own.

Phoenix has not touched the topic of the spy-ring arrests in its programming.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-11-11/34419.html


Similar to how Fox News is not touching the News of The World spying story in the UK. Hmmmmm...

Phoenix TV a Propaganda Piece for Chinese Government
Government Connections
However, newspaper reports say that Wu Xiaoyong, the son of China’s former Vice Premier, Wu Xueqian, heads the station’s North American operations. Both Wu and Phoenix Chairman and CEO Liu Changle previously held posts in China’s official mouthpiece radio station, China National Radio.

Liu, a military officer during the Cultural Revolution, started his journalism career with the PLA. A report in the Washington Post says he gained favour with Communist Party leaders by producing extensive propaganda singing the praises of Mao Zedong and the like.

In the late 1980’s, Liu moved on from his military appointment (having gained a rank of colonel) to start work at a state oil firm. Making use of high-level connections, Liu amassed business assets worth an estimated $USD 500 million. He used this fortune to build his media empire.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-11-11/34419.html


Wendi Murdoch is now working for Myspace in China, doing for the Chinese youth what Facebook and Myspace have been doing to a new generation of young Americans : Capturing their crotch pictures and private communications for all eternity.

HONG KONG -
Wendi Deng, the young Chinese wife of Rupert Murdoch, appears to have finally been elevated to an official post within News Corp.: chief of strategy for MySpace’s China operation.

News of the impending appointment was confirmed by unnamed sources separately in media in China and the U.S., as well as in Australia. The new title, plus a seat on the board of MySpace China, would bring her into the glare of the public eye for the first time after an important backstage role setting up the venture.

MySpace China, which aspires to duplicate the success of the pioneering U.S. social-networking Web site, debuted in April as a trial site.

...

An official role at MySpace China would provide the 39-year-old Deng with her first chance to prove her mettle in the succession battle with Murdoch's children for control of the sprawling family-run media empire.

Critics fear Murdoch would be quick to submit to the wishes of Chinese authorities once he acquires The Wall Street Journal, the same way he has cooperated with China’s heavy Internet censorship to obtain the relatively fast launch of MySpace China.
http://www.forbes.com/2007/06/28/myspace-china-deng-markets-equity-cx_jc_0628markets2.html


So critics fear that Murdoch would submit to the wishes of Chinese authorities once he acquires the Wall Street Journal. Very interesting. Remember who is controlling the Wall Street Journal..Robert Thomson, the guy who just happens to be married to the daughter of a communist Chinese general. (see above).

Rupert Murdoch : Propaganda Pimp for Authoritarian Regimes
Seven of the Journal's China reporters sent a letter to Dow Jones shareholders in May accusing Murdoch of cozying up to the regime in the past to advance his business interests.
An article about Deng that was recently spiked by the Australian magazine Good Weekend is also providing ammunition to Murdoch’s opponents over The Wall Street Journal bid. The magazine is owned by Fairfax, in which News Corp. has a minority stake. The highly regarded journalist Eric Ellis spent three months working on the 10,000-word profile of Deng, only to have it killed, arousing speculation of intervention from above.
A native of China born in Xuzhou, Jiangsu province, Deng has been the locomotive behind Murdoch’s long push into the country, serving first as his personal interpreter at News Corp., then a mistress and an intimate adviser on China after their eventual marriage in 1999.
Deng has made frequent trips to China since News Corp.’s acquisition of MySpace early in 2006 to lay the political and business groundwork to launch MySpace China.
http://www.forbes.com/2007/06/28/myspace-china-deng-markets-equity-cx_jc_0628markets2.html


Myspace was already available to Chinese users. What Murdoch is doing is helping the Chinese to control content on the Chinese Myspace.cn and I imagine to spy on users too. And we all know now without doubt that Murdoch's organizations have no problem spying on the private communications of citizens. What is Murdoch really up to? And who is he really working for? Certainly not for the people of the USA, UK and China.

MySpace Forcing Chinese Users to Switch to MySpace.cn
A notice sent out by MySpace has indicated that users located in China must move their accounts to MySpace.cn, or lose their accounts entirely.

MySpace won’t say the exact reason for the forced switch, but it’s a known fact that MySpace.cn is goverened by local authorities, while MySpace is not.
http://mashable.com/2007/08/27/myspace-switch-chinese-users/


We shouldn't rush to judgement about what this may mean... but again the connections are interesting in light of Murdoch's destructive behavior around the world. His habit of working against the interests of citizens and for the interests of billionaires and autocrats.

Is anyone in the media talking about this? Don't count on it. They are two busy kissing up to the Murdochs telling us all how awesome the Tiger Woman is for bitch slapping some dude that threw a fucking pie on this Democracy Wrecking Family of Assholes who lied multiple countries into multiple wars over many many years killing millions of people. Meanwhile Americans are too busy losing everything they own to know that The United States of America is not run by Americans any more.




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CrunchMaster Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:18 AM
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77. 2006 : Chinese Espionage + NASA + Florida Republican Tom Feeney + Vote Rigging
Major Media Ignores Story of Republican in Florida Writing Vote Rigging Software While Working for Chinese Company Haboring Spies.
By Brad Friedman on 1/11/2006 2:47pm
Feeney in China: Still Carrying Water for the Communist Nation...
Powerful Republican Who Once Ran with Jeb Bush and Worked for a Company That Harbored Chinese Spies, Calls for a More 'Balanced' Relationship While Travelling Abroad

Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) continues to carry water for his Communist Chinese friends. Even while the media hasn't stopped for a moment to question Feeney's years-long effort at protecting a Florida software company which harbored and employed a convicted Chinese spy. The company, Yang Enterprises Inc. (YEI) continues to lie about that employment.

As an illegal alien in 2004, Hai Lin "Henry" Nee, who worked for years for the company, plead guilty to charges related to three counts of attempting to send Hellfire Anti-Tank Missile chips illegally to China. Stunningly, Nee received only three-years probation and a $100 fine for the crime, even after admitting that he and a partner had sent such shipments "10 to 20 times over the past year" to China. The convictions were the result of a four-year sting effort by the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency.
...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2265


More Republicans Outsourcing Jobs to Communist China

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Feeney himself worked as general counsel and registered lobbyist for YEI even while he was the powerful Speaker of the Florida Legislature back in 2000. The conflicts of interest there are mind-blowing. He now sits on the U.S. House Judiciary Committee.
...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2265


2001 : While Working for Chinese Company, Republican Asshole Feeney asks Employee to Write Vote-Rigging Software

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The BRAD BLOG originally took notice of Feeney when we first broke explosive allegations about Feeney and YEI, as made by computer programmer Clint Curtis. Curtis, who first reported all of these matters to Florida's Inspector General back in 2001, alleged in a sworn affidavit that Feeney had asked him to create a vote-rigging software prototype while they both worked for YEI. Curtis, who had been a Republican at the time, later gave video-taped testimony under oath to members of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee of the allegations. He later passed a polygraph test confirming the veracity of his charges against Feeney and YEI.
...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2265


Republican Tom Feeney's Adventures in China Helping Them Grow their Space Program

...
As a report from Reuters today reveals, Feeney is currently in the Communist nation as part of a "congressional US-China Working Group", where he is advocating for a "more 'balanced' discussion about relations with China." A quote below, from Reuters' story, reports Feeney's support for expanding China's space program.
...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2265


Chinese Spies + A Compromised NASA + Republican Tom Feeney's Deep Ties to Chinese Firm YEI

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The story fails, of course, to mention Feeney's personal relationship to NASA, which is based in his home state of Florida. As well, NASA is a client of YEI's and, as far as we know, Feeney's wife still works for the space agency, as do many of YEI's employees.
...
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2265


Republicans in China working to Export Your Jobs

...
Here's some earlier BRAD BLOG reporting, which links to several of our stories exposing the corrupt congressman's dubious connections to Chinese spying and his activities on behalf of the company, which has apparently been harboring at least one such spy for many years.

And here's the quote from the Reuters story :
On Tuesday, a U.S. senator on a separate visit to Beijing, Max Baucus, said resentment in Congress about China's $200 billion trade surplus with the United States may prompt lawmakers to pass legislation threatening to punish China unless Beijing revalues the yuan and so makes Chinese exports more expensive.

The other three visiting congressman are members of a congressional U.S.-China Working Group, which advocates more "balanced" discussion about relations with China.

Kirk <(R-IL)> said during their six-day visit in Beijing that began on Monday that China's repeated promises to post an intellectual property ombudsman in Washington to take complaints from U.S. businesses, as well as to spend $250 million on legitimate software for government offices.

Tom Feeney, a Republican congressman from Florida, said the lawmakers also discussed expanded cooperation in space, including a proposal for China to engineer the entry docks of its manned spacecraft so they could dock with U.S. and Russian craft, allowing for cooperation in space rescues.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=2265


Why again did Feeney never go to jail for trying to rig U.S. elections? Oh never mind.

Five years later, how is that U.S. Manned Space program doing? Oh, almost forgot.

THE USA DOESN'T HAVE A MANNED SPACE PROGRAM ANY MORE.

American astronauts will be hitching rides into space with the Russians. Yes, China and Russia have full blown manned space programs. The USA doesn't have a maanned space program, doesn't have jobs, doesn't have an economy, doesn't have jack shit except for a 10 year long war in the middle east siphoning off Trillions of U.S. dollars out of the country. Just nevermind all of the resources floating around out there in space... at this rate the Russians and Chinese will get to them first.


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78. Russia, China, India, Iran Going Into Space .. USA Grounded, Too Busy with Wars & Birth Certificates
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 03:11 AM by CrunchMaster
Foreign nations push into space as U.S. pulls back
Countries including China, India and Iran are engaged in a new race to explore space. Efforts include building research centers, rockets, satellites and lunar rovers.

As NASA retreats from an ambitious human spaceflight program for the foreseeable future, foreign countries are moving ahead with their own multibillion-dollar plans to go to the moon, build space stations and even take the long voyage to Mars.

Although most of the world still lags far behind the United States in space technology and engineering know-how, other nations are engaging in a new space race and building their own space research centers, rockets, satellites and lunar rovers. Their ambitions are a declaration of their economic and technological arrival.

And it's not just the Russians.

Later this year, China plans to launch into orbit the first phase of its own space station. The country has already launched six people into outer space and hopes to put a man on the moon sometime after 2020.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-0722-space-race-20110722,0,20513.story


We have gone from this


To This

Teabaggers and Birthers




Trump for President

HOW DID CELEBRATION AND ADORATION OF...

STUPIDITY

...BECOME SO ACCEPTED IN AMERICAN CULTURE? HOW DID THAT HAPPEN???

BECAUSE THE MEDIA AND THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT FORCE FED IT TO US


Today on the radio I heard Randi Rhodes on the radio stepping all over herself talking to a caller about Hitler, but afraid to use the word Hitler and replaced Hitler with the name of the Harry Potter character Voldemort. So I had to spend the first minute or two trying to figure out what the heck she was going on about. Why does she have to censor herself from using the word Hitler to describe the actions of fascists? She does it because the rightwingers who follow in the footsteps of Hitler and seem to worship him, would prefer you not draw too much attention to their fetish. Come on Democrats... let your balls drop,(or as Randi would say, your boobies bounce)... Seriously, if you kill millions of people using cooked up lies like Hitler did. By all means. Stopping being wishy washy.. let your Weiner hang out...and compare that person to Hitler. People will respect you more for it.

It's like how the media was all offended because Murdoch had a fucking pie thrown in his face. Really? Murdoch deserves much worse. In fact his Karmic debt, if there is such a thing, must be so heavy, that if he isn't eaten alive by 1000 Teabagger flesh eating zombies in this life, he'll be burning off his sins for many lives to come. With the exception of the Bush Clan, who else in the past 30 years has been so singlehandedly enabling for as much, death, war and mayhem as Rupert Murdoch and his War Pumping, phone hacking, billionaire enriching, stupidity pimping media empire??? HIS FAMILY HAS BEEN PUMPING WAR AND PROPAGANDA SINCE WORLD WAR I.

Here are your too largest contributors to the phenomenon of American stupidity by far.


Rupert Murdoch


Roger Ailes

Sure, there are plenty of other people pushing stupidity on Americans. Howard Stern would be one example. The difference is, that Murdoch and Ailes are pushing Stupidity on America but wrapped in the guise of God, Patriotism and Truth, whereas Howard Stern will tell you he is simply entertainment.

Why are they so heavily invested in dumbing down the American public?

Because a dumbed down population that doesn't ask questions is easier for billionaires to graze on than an intelligent and aware population. That is what Ailes and Murdoch are all about.


The more important question now, is... WHEN IS AMERICA GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? When is America going to demand that Murdoch's News Empire be shut down for running propaganda, lying to the public, for multiple crypto assassination threats against the President, for promoting endless War for probably 30 or even more years costing Trillions and Trillions of dollars, for hacking in to the personal communications of average citizens in the UK and almost surely here in the USA also, for creating the intrusive patriot act, for spying on and blackmailing politicians and citizens in the UK(and probably USA), for buying off corrupt cops, for creating a climate of fear, paranoia and I might even say insanity that has pretty much collapsed this country at its core. Really, what is taking so long for our government to do something about it? To shut Newscorp down?

Rupert Murdoch is running a globe spanning criminal organization dedicated to the purpose of undermining Democracies in multiple countries and appropriating wealth for a handful of elite associates. And then there is Murdoch's China gov friendly wife that has the heavy odor of "Chinese Intelligence" about her(I know some are offended by that, but come on..think about it).

So what does it take for the FBI to get off its ass and do some real meaningful crackdowns on Murdoch, to open a serious investigation into this? Someone please tell the FBI to stop rounding up 13 year old honey-trapped Anonymous wannebees and go after some big fish doing far, far greater damage to the USA: RUPERT MURDOCH AND ROGER AILES.
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