Sharp-dressed man aided terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab onto plane without passport

[jakeXT]

Flight 253 passenger: Sharp-dressed man aided terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab onto plane without passport (MLive.com exclusive)
By Sheena Harrison | MLive.com
December 26, 2009, 2:22PM

Kurt Haskell

Kurt Haskell's boarding pass for NWA Flight 253

A Michigan man who was aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 says he witnessed Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab trying to board the plane in Amsterdam without a passport.

Kurt Haskell of Newport, Mich., who posted an earlier comment about his experience, talked exclusively with MLive.com and confirmed he was on the flight by sending a picture of his boarding pass. He and his wife, Lori, were returning from a safari in Uganda when they boarded the NWA flight on Friday.
Kurt Haskell

Lori and Kurt Haskell
Haskell said he and his wife were sitting on the ground near their boarding gate in Amsterdam, which is when they saw Mutallab approach the gate with an unidentified man.

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http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_says_at_l.html


nothing to see here....

[Bolo Boffin]

1. "nothing to see here...."

Do you have any evidence that someone is trying to cover up this piece of information?

Hint: a big daily in the United States that talks about this is a strange way to try and cover up the information.

[jakeXT]

3. reminds me of the liquid bomb plot

None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport Agency would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber for quite some time.

In the absence of bombs and airline tickets, and in many cases passports, it could be pretty difficult to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that individuals intended to go through with suicide bombings, whatever rash stuff they may have bragged in internet chat rooms.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0815-36.htm

[procopia]

5. "A" big daily reports it, so there was no suppression?

What other news sources reported this story?

[Bolo Boffin]

6. Well, it's kind of hard to say it's been suppressed when the link to the story is right there.

It was an exclusive for the paper. The reporter interviewed the passenger.

[procopia]

7. "Suppressed" doesn't mean "never reported at all."

A Google news search finds this source and one or two minor news sources reporting it.

[Bolo Boffin]

8. "Suppressed" doesn't mean "not as widely reported as I would like," either.

"Suppressed" implies, oh, I don't know, some actual suppression?

[spooked911]

13. let me know when you hear this on CNN or FoxNews

and also when you get a clue

[Bolo Boffin]

18. Hint: "suppression" is not defined "not as widely reported as I would like"

Until you have actual evidence of suppression, all you have is speculation.

[spooked911]

20. just because u insist on keeping your head in the sand

I am not sure why u insist on hanging out here and shoving everyone else's head down too...

[jakeXT]

24. it was on cnn

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x417930


But so was the King family on ABC once talking how the gov killed mlk.

[spooked911]

39. link didn't work

but good to know. A lot of times these kinds of stories are reported once, then they fall down the "memory hole" and are never talked about again.

[jberryhill]

2. Bullshit

I've flown out of Schiphol a bunch of times.

Passport control is nowhere near the boarding gates.

[KDLarsen]

4. Stop the presses! A sharply-dressed man!

Seriously, are the standards that low, that airline/airport employees stand out because they're sharply dressed?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. At Amsterdam? I doubt he would get on without a passport.

[jberryhill]

16. Get on? He wouldn't even get to the international gate area without one /nt

[Lithos]

10. Just a question for people to answer

How does this relate to the well reported fact of his traveling on a US supplied visa? They obviously knew who he was when he was on the plane, meaning that the ticket and the id used to obtain it matched. Seems a bit incongruous.

L-

[jakeXT]

11. Britain refused a visa but the US didn't

Dutch police investigate terror plot accomplice

heraldscotland staff


Published on 28 Dec 2009

Dutch military police are investigating the possibility that an accomplice may have helped the Nigerian man accused of trying to blow up a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day.

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The military police have already said Abdulmutallab did not go through passport control at Schiphol when he arrived from Lagos.

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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/world-news/dutch-police-investigate-terror-plot-accomplice-1.994745




A fresh British visa request was refused in May after he applied for a bogus course, Whitehall sources said
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/video-clip-warned-of-fresh-terror-attack-439774.html

[spooked911]

12. verily, the story stinks

http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2009/12/nigerian-mi6-airline-bomber-patsy.html

[Ohio Joe]

19. Perhaps the stupidest ever from the Anonymous Physicist

My favorite part is at the very end:

"Indeed the use of many small nuclear devices, emplaced in those towers, may have revealed the ultimate reasons for getting much of Mankind to live and/or work in large buildings, and in large cities…"

WTF? heh, just frighteningly stupid.

[spooked911]

22. No, it is not stupid, if you are awake.

"The Family Guy", however, is mind-numbingly dumb. There's probably a connection there.

[Ohio Joe]

23. ahh, the truthers second favorite accusation

The first, of course, being that you support repugs if you don't buy the tinfoil. Now though, your going to the second string where one is asleep... not paying attention because they don't buy into stupid shit like AP puts out. Seriously, a couple hundred years ago some shadowy group that controls everything (while never being found out) convinces people to live in cities, live and work in large building... for the purpose of using mini nukes that by some miracle look nothing like nukes, act nothing like nukes and leave no traces of nukes being used... Seriously... you buy stupid shit like that? Really?

[procopia]

27. Straw man, the OCTists' favorite tactic

Just because one side observation made by the writer seems illogical to you, does that mean there are no valid points in the gist of the article?

[Ohio Joe]

28. There are many stupid items in the "article"

I only mentioned one. The general gist of it is to blather about these shadowy all powerful invisible people that control everything with zero cites for the claims made and zero evidence, it is complete non-sense.

[procopia]

29. But you didn't specify any of them...nt

[Ohio Joe]

30. No, I did not

Read the non-sense for yourself. It is paranoid bullshit and I very specific ly stated I was only mentioning the stupidest part. If you wish to ignore the massive leaps made to come up with that drivel, you are free to do so.

[AZCat]

31. Playing dumb, the truther's favorite tactic. n/t

[procopia]

32. projection--

a common OCTist mechanism. Thanks for the example.

[AZCat]

33. Generally speaking...

when you point to an example it should actually reflect your point.

[spooked911]

14. it would fit if he was a patsy

and they are putting out all sorts of stories on him to mislead and confuse

[netsurfer2]

34. He was a patsy

For Al Queda.

[procopia]

35. Confirmed?

By whom?

[spooked911]

38. "Al Queda"?

wow, never saw that version of the name.

Anyway, al Qaeda is really al-CIA-duh, hope you know.

[KDLarsen]

40. Not that there's any evidence of that at all..

.. but hey, since when has that stopped twoofers from declaring something proven.

[Don Caballero]

15. Such utter BS

Every time something like this happens the conspiracy theory crowd comes out in full force. Who do they work for? Why are they always distracting from the facts with conspiracy theory garbage?

[spooked911]

21. the original post WAS based on facts

not sure why you think it is BS. Why are you so angry?

[procopia]

25. Because the really sane people believe

the "war on terror" is just about keeping Americans safe, right?

[sylvi]

17. OMG! ZZ Top is in on it, too!(nt)

[spoony]

41. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that

:D

[HannibalCards]

43. Be on the lookout

[spoony]

44. Their beards would be the envy of all AQ

If they were darker and not famous, I wonder if they could even get on a plane with those things :P

[netsurfer2]

26. Confirmed?

Has this been confirmed as fact? Or is this just another story that apperas on the net with no basis in fact?

[MinM]

36. Passengers on Detroit Flight Witness Accomplice and Passenger Video

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x418019

[zappaman]

37. verrrrry interesting

A sharp dressed man? Maybe like the men in black who show up after UFO encounters? Could the two be related?
A sharp dressed man makes me think of the CIA or some sort of black ops.
Let's keep asking the important questions like...
1. What part of our government did he work for?
2. Has he ever been seen near any unusual activities such as crop circles, ufo sightings or 9/11?
3. Or if he isn't part of our government, then he is Mossad and we should be asking Israel some serious questions.
Keep on it guys!
Good work!

[Sancho]

42. two lawyers interviewed on npr....

saw and described the man in detail: Indian or Pakistan; 50's, etc. He helped the bomber board without a passport. The witnesses were a married couple, both lawyers, one used to work for the US Gov. A third passenger with two adopted kids were required to have passports. The "older man" spoke to a supervisor to gain boarding without a passport when the gate worker did not allow boarding. The witnesses were interviewed by the FBI.

Seemed like credible witnesses, and maybe there are tapes of the "older man".

I heard the interview on the radio.