Jesse Ventura covered the Bilderberg Group Wednesday night

[Ter]

Amazing how there is actually a TV show reporting what is going on (Conspiracy Theories on TruTV). Wonder how long they will let him talk about issues like this. I personally think it was his best show yet.

[Subdivisions]

1. He's a giant disappointment who squandered a chance to take a serious

look at these topics and instead created a joke of a typical tee-vee trash show. Talking about the Bilderberg Group would be great if it weren't presented in a way that wasn't so laughable. If I wasn't already aware of the subject matter, I'd think he and his "investigative" team were completely batshit insane and from that moment on I wouldn't put an ounce of stock in what they say. I mean, how more absurd can you get that you would have Alex Jones come on there saying (I'm paraphrasing) 'I wanted to meet with you privately, Governor, to tell you about secret eugenicist plans to depopulate the planet...' I mean, c'mon! Jones talks about that shit every day on his show, and has done so with Ventura himself! And then the 'they're out to kill you personally, Governor!', to which the Governor relplies "Whaaaat?...You mean they want to kill little 'ole me?

Pfft...Give me a break!

[ryan_cats]

40. I tivod it and finally saw it yesterday

My complaints:
1) Using Alex Jones as a source?
2) Claiming they want to kill Jesse in the ads but the reality is they want to kill everyone (according to the show)
3) The Doctor from Panama? What are her credentials? Is she an MD? She mentioned that her clinic is drug-free. I feel sorry for anyone that puts their life in her hands.
4) The presentation was so over the top it was a joke.
5) What spook in their right mind would tell Jesse anything even though he's a SEAL, Governor or whatever else he's done. He's a nut-job more at home wrassling!
6) Jim Tucker (I hope that's his name) he says he's been chased for many years yet he's still alive so why all the drama?
Sheesh.

Edited for spelling.

[HannibalCards]

2. The only thing the CT show is about

is inflating Jesse's ego and lining Jesse's wallet.

Wrasslin' for the new Millennium.

[LARED]

3. Wait, I thought the Bilberbergers were top secret- nt

[HannibalCards]

4. Here you go

[Ter]

5. They are

They just say when and where their meetings are, never what goes on inside.

[HannibalCards]

6. To quote:

"They just say when and where their meetings are, never what goes on inside."

[jberryhill]

7. You mean, they could be Shriners?

[jberryhill]

8. So what?

Are people allowed to meet without your approval?

I'm getting together with some friends this weekend. You aren't invited, and I'm not going to tell you anything that goes on.

[Ter]

10. The difference is you're not trying to take over the world

And not meeting with wickedly evil people who want to reduce the Earth's population to 500,000,000.

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[Ter]

16. You never asked me if there's any conspiracy theory I don't believe

You asked spooked911. But if you want an answer from me, yes. I do not believe the idiots who believe in holocaust denial. I also don't believe in the one that says the Founding Fathers never existed and were a myth (no pictures of proof), and were put there to make America look good. Don't tyhink the faked
moon landing is true either.

Do you believe in any conspiracy?

[LARED]

15. when I watched some of the show last night

I was wondering how many people would actually believe there is a cabal of people planning to murder 6 plus billion people. I said to my wife that no one could possibly believe something that ridiculous. I was wrong.

[dflprincess]

30. And there were people who didn't believe the stories coming out of

Germany that Jews and others were being rounded up by the government and shipped to death camps. It was just too impossible to believe that such a ridiculous thing could be going on in a "civilized" country.

There are still people who deny it happened.

[SDuderstadt]

31. Well, as evil as the Nazis were....

they didn'gnit try to exterminate 6.5 billion people. The two aren't even comparable in magnitude. The claim that the Biderbergers want to eliminate 6.5 billion people is absurd on its face.

[LARED]

32. The NAZIS were driven by an ideological purpose.

A repulsive purpose, yes, but a justifiable means to an end in their eyes.

So what is the purpose behind the Bilberbergs desire to exterminate 6+ billion people?


I seem to have missed the reason for this massacre of unimaginable scope.

[dflprincess]

34. If the Biderbergers are involved in anything the motive would be power & greed

from what I know of them (and I'll admit to not paying much attention to them), that appears to be their primary motivators.

I have no idea if they're plotting anything remotely like this. The point I intended to make was that just because something sounds impossible or ridiculous doesn't necessarily mean it hasn't been thought of/is happening/or has been done.

Yes, 6 billion sounds crazy, so did 6 million. How low would the number have to go to be believable?

[LARED]

36. The numbers might be believable if-------

there was an actual motivation / purpose / reason to exterminate 6+ billion people.

When someone can tell me the reasoning as to why the Bilberberg group desires the extermination of 6,000,000,000 ++++ people, then it might be believable.

[jberryhill]

35. But my friends and I *are* planning to take over the world!

We figured we would start by making some YouTube videos and forming a Meet-Up group.

But, you said the Bilderberg meetings were secret, and now you say you know what they are up to.

Obviously, my friends and I have better security.

[HannibalCards]

39. What are we going to do tonight, Brain?

The same thing we do every night; Try and take over the World.

[defendandprotect]

19. Ahhh... but recall how upset the right wing gets when Dems/HRC met in

seclusion to discuss health care during the Clinton administration ----------

Of course, when Cheney met with the energy people, Scalia made sure that the records

weren't released! Wasn't that the way it went?

I'd also suggest that when elites meet yearly, it is something for us all to be concerned with --

and that includes when Obama meets at the White House with the pharmaceutical people!!

Do we fail to recall that the right wing infiltrates unions and left-wing/anti-war groups --

even the tiniest of them -- and it's certainly because they are concerned about knowing what's

going on against their interests!

"Only fools never doubt!"

Shakespeare

[earth mom]

9. I've watched a couple of Jesse's shows but I hate how the info is presented.

It pisses me off because it could be done so much better.

[dflprincess]

14. I've watched a couple of the shows as well

and somehow he manages to make them all about Jesse. This week's about MKUltra was a classic example of that. I don't think I'll bother to watch it again.

[defendandprotect]

12. Two points: First, the CIA played a major role in creating Bilderbergers . . .

which I didn't know until recently . . . !!!

AND, frequently news stations used to carry reports that the Bilderbergers were meeting --

not went on, of course, but even at times they'd have a little video showing elites arriving!

That was quite a ways back!!

[defendandprotect]

13. But . . . now the Bilderberg Group is in the dungeon??? Whaat????

[soyousay]

17. There is a great vid out there...

showing David Gergen mainstream news commentator deluxe and all around DNC type hero republocrat from the Clinton administration
being interviewed about his involvement in the Bohemian Grove. Granted Alex Jones is doing the interview
and the mods on here fill the post with clever pictures of tin foil hats and shriners and what not at the mere mention of his name.
But he did manage to sneak in and get rather disturbing video of certain rituals being preformed in the redwood forest by this group.
Gergens reaction to his questions is no better than Martin Shorts defensive lawyer routine on saturday night live.
Its really quite funny.
Its been pretty well established certain of these groups exist. Well it would seem to be only logical to ask when the rich and powerful meet in private
what is the purpose of these meetings? I mean they ask for scrutiny when they dress up in weird costumes in the middle of the Redwood forest or get together with our elected officials
in private. It used to be considered good journalism to ask questions as basic as this. Secrecy such as this used to be considered the enemy of democracy. Now you are labeled a conspiracy nut.

[defendandprotect]

18. Thank you . . . we're in the same church on this . . .

but I'm checking all the pews!!

Detest David Gergen . . . one of the all time fence sitters ready to move whichever

way power moves!

MODS put tin foil hats on the Gergen interview??? Wow . . . dumb!

Never saw the Jones/Gergen interview . . . if you come across it, please send it to me.

At the moment I again cannot watch videos at YouTube . .. but if someone posts them, I can!

I did see the Alex Jones film of the Bohemian Grove and I thought quite impressive and

indicative of the childishness involved and what looks like right wing sexual perversion.

Of course . . . I'm prejudiced!!!

As I noted in a prior post, our press used to discuss the Bilderbergers/Bohemian Grove . . .

at least to some point -- they never had much info on it -- but simply reporting how little

they knew gave everyone a clue that this was something very secret and something to be watched.

Corporate press now of course gives no challenge to the right wing -- they're all working

for the same cause - elitism.

Sadly many watching TV have no understanding of what used to be -- pre the CIA/corporate

takeover of our press.

And those certainly weren't the glory days, either -- not until MLK, RFK, JFK and Malcolm X

came along! The Sunday talk shows were always old and farty/silly ...

The news obviously intended to keep everything placid, calm.

Well, here we are --

:)

Happy New Year -- we hope!!



PS: Forgot to mention that all of these secret groups are getting more attention these

days from investigators -- Jim Marrs "Rule by Secrecy" and his newest "Rise of the Fourth

Reich" and Martin Lee's "The Beast Reawakens" -- that beast being fascism.

[EmKayUltra]

20. Culling The Herd

Do I believe that the Bilderbergers exist?......yes. Do I believe that they are meeting together and making decisions for the betterment of mankind.......no. Are they conspiring to eliminate x-amount of beings on this planet? I do believe that so called wars, and LIHOP hunger and pestilence have thinned enough of the herd to some satisfaction. Are they the perp's of these actions? Who knows.

But what I did absorb and put to real time was eliminating all Aspartame products from my life style. Thanks Jessie

[SDuderstadt]

21. If the "herd is thinning":....

why is the world's population growing so rapidly?

Stupid post. Take a critical thinking class before it's too late.

[EmKayUltra]

22. Growing Or Uncontrolled?

Thank you for bring your intelligence to the forefront. Yes it must be a "stupid post." So stupid of me I apologize and humble myself before thee. Yes the worlds population is out of control. Somebody send an E-mail to the pope, and advise him that Jesus has got nothing against latex. As we all know every sperm is sacred.
But I do believe that there are efforts in many shapes and devices as to slow down the dynamic.
Just imagine where we would be if the millions that have been slaughtered via wars and negative humanity were alive today!? Talk about no supply and demand.....eh?

I am reminded of this line....Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to another area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we are the cure!

[SDuderstadt]

23. Do you honestly deny that the world's population is growing....

rapidly?

[EmKayUltra]

24. Not At All

What ever gave you the impression that I was?? My cerebral oblation is that it may be possible that their machinations are to slow down this dynamic. Some may consider it Faustian and inhumane. Others may see it as a source of necessity and survival. May it be the survival of the fittest or the richest. But I do believe such actions are and have been in place for some time.

[SDuderstadt]

25. So, how does that fit the definition of....

"culling the herd"?

[EmKayUltra]

27. Culling The Herd

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2757.shtml

[greyl]

28. Forrest M. Mims III is being dishonest.

Bother to read the actual speech given by Pianka.

[SDuderstadt]

29. So, if you "culled the herd"....

would you have more or less than when you started? Duh.

[greyl]

26. Whoever delivered that line mistook 1 culture for the whole of humanity.

An extremely common and misleading idea.

[LARED]

33. Three things

1. The Matrix was a fictional movie. Agent Smith is not real.

2. If you quote a source it is common courtesy to provide a reference, otherwise folks might think you thunk up the words yourself.

3. Western civilization is not the source of population growth. In fact most Western ie Christian / Catholic nations have slow population growth. So your shot at Catholics was both ill informed and cheap.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

[EmKayUltra]

37. 3-Replies

1-you have a firm grip on the obvious.

2. Maybe I did fail to give the source. But I perceived responders at this table to be hip enough to pick up on it. And I seriously doubt anyone would perceive it to be my creation. Especially when I opened it with "I am reminded of this line."

3. Very true the west has reduced its population growth. It is the 3rd world nations that have the problem. The same 3rd world nations that follow the advice of a so called Pope. The same Pope that advises them that birth control is sin!
(My shot was at the Pope not the catholics) Not all catholics follow the advice of their so called Pope, thank Elvis for that!

[LARED]

38. Below is a list of the top 75 countries in order of population growth

I may have missed one or two but I think Catholics would make up at best a tiny fraction of the people in these countries. So it's unlikely any of them are following the Popes advice.

1 Niger 51.60 2009 est.
2 Mali 49.15 2009 est.
3 Uganda 47.84 2009 est.
4 Afghanistan 45.46 2009 est.
5 Sierra Leone 44.73 2009 est.
6 Burkina Faso 44.33 2009 est.
7 Somalia 43.70 2009 est.
8 Angola 43.69 2009 est.
9 Ethiopia 43.66 2009 est.
10 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 42.63 2009 est.
11 Liberia 42.25 2009 est.
12 Yemen 42.14 2009 est.
13 Malawi 41.48 2009 est.
14 Burundi 41.42 2009 est.
15 Congo, Republic of the 41.37 2009 est.
16 Chad 40.86 2009 est.
17 Zambia 40.24 2009 est.
18 Rwanda 39.67 2009 est.
19 Western Sahara 39.54 2009 est.
20 Mayotte 39.26 2009 est.
21 Benin 39.22 2009 est.
22 Sao Tome and Principe 38.54 2009 est.
23 Madagascar 38.14 2009 est.
24 Djibouti 38.13 2009 est.
25 Mozambique 37.98 2009 est.
26 Gambia, The 37.87 2009 est.
27 Guinea 37.52 2009 est.
28 Gaza Strip 36.93 2009 est.
29 Senegal 36.84 2009 est.
30 Nigeria 36.65 2009 est.
31 Kenya 36.64 2009 est.
32 Equatorial Guinea 36.52 2009 est.
33 Togo 36.44 2009 est.
34 Guinea-Bissau 35.97 2009 est.
35 Gabon 35.57 2009 est.
36 Comoros 35.23 2009 est.
37 Oman 34.79 2009 est.
38 Tanzania 34.29 2009 est.
39 Eritrea 34.20 2009 est.
40 Mauritania 34.11 2009 est.
41 Cameroon 34.10 2009 est.
42 Laos 33.94 2009 est.
43 Sudan 33.74 2009 est.
44 Central African Republic 32.75 2009 est.
45 Cote d'Ivoire 32.11 2009 est.
46 Zimbabwe 31.49 2009 est.
47 Marshall Islands 30.70 2009 est.
48 Kiribati 30.20 2009 est.
49 Iraq 30.10 2009 est.
50 Haiti 29.10 2009 est.
51 Ghana 28.58 2009 est.
52 Saudi Arabia 28.55 2009 est.
53 Paraguay 28.17 2009 est.
54 Samoa 28.06 2009 est.
55 Guatemala 27.98 2009 est.
56 Solomon Islands 27.69 2009 est.
57 Pakistan 27.62 2009 est.
58 Papua New Guinea 27.55 2009 est.
59 Belize 27.33 2009 est.
60 Tajikistan 26.90 2009 est.
61 Honduras 26.27 2009 est.
62 Timor-Leste 26.25 2009 est.
63 Swaziland 26.25 2009 est.
64 Philippines 26.01 2009 est.
65 Syria 25.90 2009 est.
66 Bolivia 25.82 2009 est.
67 Cambodia 25.73 2009 est.
68 West Bank 25.44 2009 est.
69 El Salvador 25.31 2009 est.
70 Libya 25.15 2009 est.
71 Bangladesh 24.68 2009 est.
72 Lesotho 24.14 2009 est.
73 Nauru 23.90 2009 est.
74 Cape Verde 23.50 2009 est.
75 Kyrgyzstan 23.44 2009 est.

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[SDuderstadt]

42. Enjoy your short stay here...n/t

[Ter]

43. Bilderburger Bill Gates ays malaria vaccine may be ready in three years

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8479986.stm

This is scary. I wonder how many millions this so-called "vaccine" will effect...