Simple challenge to assassination buffs who claim the "single bullet must be magical" bullshit....

[SDuderstadt]

Okay, buffs...this just keeps getting dumber and dumber.

See if you can give a reasonably logical answer to the question I am about to pose.

Can we stipulate that Connally had an entrance wound in his back, an exit wound in his chest and another wound in his thigh?

If your answer is "yes", then look at whatever you want (still picture, Zapruder film, etc.) that establishes the relative positions of JFK and Connally at the time Connally was wounded and then answer this simple question.

How could Oswald (or any other gunman, for that matter) have hit Connally where he was hit in the back WITHOUT first going through JFK?

And, before you accuse me of being a government apologist, do you really think you guys are the only ones interested in learning the truth? Or, is it just a rhetorical trick ("psychic foreclosure") in which you try to argue alternative points of view are simply not possible?

Take your time.

[Octafish]

1. Fucking sophistry.

The Warren Commission -- meaning the FBI -- never established the basic facts regarding the holes in Connally's clothing. The bloodied clothes were left at the hospital for several days, if not weeks, unexamined by the authorities. They eventually were returned to the Connallys, who sent the shirt and suit to the cleaners, before they could be analyzed to determine from which direction the shots came.

And, before you accuse me of a being a conspiracy nut, do you really think you can get away with never posting a link to support your false narratives, SDuderstadt? If it's all in the mind, it is bullshit. So, quit peddling your J Edgar Hoover apologist bullshit.

For those interested in truth, here's where to go and learn:

The Separate Connally Shot

Lab Tests on JFK Evidence Complete

Bugliosi Fails to Resuscitate the Single-Bullet Theory

The Magic Bullet: Even More Magical Than We Knew?

Single Bullet (lots of photos and graphics)

[SDuderstadt]

2. I notice you cannot answer the question so...

you attack me. Typical Octafish.

Why can't you answer the very simple question I asked, dude?

Hint: because it totally destroys your goofy bullshit.

P.S. Are you really implying Connally was hit from the front?

P.P.S. You aeem to be losing your cool, dude.

[Octafish]

3. I said the FBI never examined the evidence, so we can't tell from where the shots came.

As for attacking you, I don't need to. Since the facts aren't on your side, you need to make a lot of noise about whatever.

[SDuderstadt]

4. Bullshit, dude....

the doctors at Parkland identified the hole in Connally's back as the entrance wound.

Moreover, if you claim the bullet came from the front, explain the wound in Connaly's thigh, dude. Do you really want to claim it hit him in the thigh, then jumped up and struck him in the chest? Or, did it hit him in the chest, exit his back, then come around his body before planting itself in his thigh? I'd love to hear you try to wiggle out of this one.

Quit being silly, dude. When you're on the ropes, you just become even sillier.

[Octafish]

5. Got a link for any of that?

Doubt it.

[SDuderstadt]

8. Here you go, dude....

this is the examination of Dr. Shaw, who operated on Connally at Parkland. Shaw clearly describes the wound to Connally's chest as an "exit wound". He also describes the "point of entry" as being on Connally's back.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh4/html/WC_Vol4_0056b.htm

Simple question: since you claim to be such an expert on the JFK assassination and you have a "journal" and all, how could you not know this? Or, is it more likely that you've never read the Warren Commission Report, let alone the volumes of testimony? Like I said, dude, you'd be wise not to make me have to embarrass you by highlighting your ignorance of the most fundamental aspects of the case.

Now, please explain how Connally could possibly have been hit by a bullet from the front and have it wound his wrist, thigh and chest.

[SDuderstadt]

10. Crickets

[SDuderstadt]

13. Second day of crickets

[SDuderstadt]

14. THIRD day of crickets....

Hmmmmm







I wonder if there is such a thing as an Octacricket.

[Octafish]

15. Your self-righteous act is stale. Besides, I don't have to answer to you.

And in answer to your question, I've already stated: We don't know who shot him, or from what direction, because the FBI flubbed the case. Some of their incompetence includes ignoring evidence, such as the Governor's clothing, to the point where the family had it, literally, sent to the laundrey for cleaning.

Happy now?

[SDuderstadt]

16. Dude...

you can't ignore Dr. Shaw's testimony, but you try because your whole "case" unravels otherwise, dude. We DO know which direction Connally was shot from, we can tell from the work of Dale Myers when he was shot and we DO know who shot him because CE 399 was matched to Oswald's rifle. If you're going to continue to claim that Connally could have possibly been shot anywhere other than from behind him, you're going to have to explain how he could possibly have been wounded in the wrist, thigh, chest and back from the front. Take your time, dude. You've already wasted nearly a half century. What's a few more decades?

I'm hardly being self-righteous, dude. I'm pointing out the typical CT tactic of ignoring the evidence that doesn't fit the pre-determined conclusion. Again, since the entrance wound was in Connally's back (for the life of me, I don't know why you think his clothing would establish which direction he was shot from), you have to explain how Oswald could possibly have hit Connally where he did without hitting JFK first. You can try to weasel out of it if you want, but you're just digging a bigger hole for yourself, dude.

I know it must suck to have your "life's work" destroyed by facts and evidence and it must suck even worse to be humiliated in front of your little CT groupies but, at some point, you have to acknowledge that you have had nearly half a century to "crack" this case and you've failed miserably, dude. And, the reason you've fallen flat on your face is because there is no case to crack. While no one is claiming the WC was perfect, they essentially got it right.

47 years, dude. Aren't you embarrassed by your utter lack of results? And, by the way, before you unleash your normal barrage of ponderously long, totally disjointed CT factoids, strained "analysis" and "what about THIS!" bullshit, you need to take stock of the fact that the convergence of evidence is what reveals your nonsense to be the goofy bullshit that it is. Sorry, dude.

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[Happy Friend]

6. Parkland Doctors hahahahahaha

Didn't they also say JFK had an entrance wound in the front of neck and a massive exit wound in the BACK OF HIS HEAD ?

Are they reliable or not ?

Mrs Connely said Kennedy's head got exploded BEFORE Connely got hit in the back. She's a randy buff.

Connely himself didn't buy the magic bullet. If he were still alive perhaps your epic debunkings would show him the error of his ways.

[SDuderstadt]

7. It's "Connally", dude....

still parading your ignorance?

Can you answer the simple question I posed or not?

[jberryhill]

9. So connally's wrist was hit by someone under the floormat?

Uh screw the Parkland doctors.... After all, the man walked the earth with his evident wounds for years after the event. You think he didn't know from which direction he was hit?

[jberryhill]

11. Gee... When did Connally get his skin returned to him?

Wait wait, don't tell me... They sent his skin to the cleaners too, so that he'd never know from which direction he was shot.

[enik_1]

12. Simple question about the obvious

Have you ever visited Dealey Plaza? Why couldn't a second gunman be hiding in the building at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Dealey+Plaza,+Dallas,+Texas+75202&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.444078,95.097656&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FXMp9AEdc9I6-g&split=0&hq=&hnear=Dealey+Plaza&ll=32.779551,-96.807967&spn=0,359.997098&z=19&layer=c&cbll=32.77952,-96.808055&panoid=jSwYUdJ0icC_gc6D8OBp5w&cbp=12,13.37,,0,-19.21">501 Elm Place? They have a great view of Elm Street but the recessed windows prevent any possible shot on N. Houston Street. (I apologize if the link doesn't work)