Another Piece in the 9/11 Puzzle: The Fake Hijack of KAL85

[spooked911]

http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2010/04/was-korean-airlines-flight-85-simulated.html

This story is pretty interesting, and fits with the idea that there were live-fly hijacking exercises going on during 9/11.

What is ludicrous is the official story that KAL85-- which turned out NOT to be hijacked-- did the following because of "miscommunication":

1) texted "HJK" (hijack) to air traffic control

2) changed their transponder to 7500 (signal for a hijack)

3) repeatedly did not answer calls from air traffic control

So the official story is clearly bullshit.

What is interesting is that one story has the Koreans saying that air traffic controllers made them put on the hijack signals: "The airline's administrator, Michael Lim, said: "Our captain was following their instruction. even told the captain to transmit code 7500, hijack code. Our captain, who realized how serious it is, they were just following instructions.""

So, we have air traffic controllers apparently involved in the exercises, and not only that, they were converting a normal passenger plane into a hijacked plane, likely as some weird part of the wargames going on. And as the article explains, there was a known exercise involving a plane coming from Korea.

Unfortunately, this doesn't really prove anything about flights 11, 175, 77 and 93, but it suggests that air traffic controllers were more involved in the wargames than we might have suspected, and that the key 9/11 flights were turned into hijacks as part of the ongoing exercises.

[zappaman]

1. huh?

" the key 9/11 flights were turned into hijacks as part of the ongoing exercises."
that's quite a leap you make there, Spooked.
that's like saying 2 + 2 might equal five and therefore the moon is a giant alien spaceship.

[spooked911]

2. not much of a leap at all

but nice try at mockery

[defendandprotect]

7. Attempt at "mockery" and "ridicule" is the gold standard put in place by CIA --

for any taboo subject --

and certainly 9/11 is one of them!

Many fear finding out about anything that will destroy their notion of a "conspiracy-free" America

and imitate the handy technique.

But there is no real thought behind it -- only an attempt to find a way to ignore what is

being said.

[rmontez]

24. Nice try?

I though he did a damn good job.

[hack89]

3. So of course there is plenty of evidence

that, prior to 911, foreign airlines routinely and willingly volunteered unwitting passengers to be participants in another countries military exercise? How frequently did it happen - once, twice, ten times a year? Where is the announcement from KAL saying they have stopped participating? What other airlines participated?

Any hard facts would be greatly appreciated.

[zappaman]

4. hard facts?

don't hold your breath

[spooked911]

9. the hard fact is that KAL85 was forced to pretend it was a hijack

we can only speculate about what it means wrt 9/11, but this is a pretty remarkable incident.

[hack89]

11. It was not forced

there is no evidence for that at all. At best it appears to be a communications mix up due to a poor command of the English language.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever that any commercial airline has ever participated in a military hijacking drill using planes with unsuspecting passengers?

[zappaman]

12. Asking Spooked for evidence

is like asking my dog to make me a gin and tonic.

[LARED]

5. From the link

The military reportedly blamed the false alert on "muddled communications between air traffic controllers and the flight crew aboard the plane." But Korean Airlines claimed that the pilot of KAL 85 "believed he was directed by air traffic controllers at the FAA's Anchorage flight control center to send out the hijack signal." The airline's administrator, Michael Lim, said: "Our captain was following their instruction. even told the captain to transmit code 7500, hijack code. Our captain, who realized how serious it is, they were just following instructions.

Falls into the category of, no one would make up a lie this stupid, so I'm guessing it true.

[KDLarsen]

6. For what it's worth..

.. and this is entirely the opinion of a monday morning quarterback, you have to consider the situation. By the time KAL85 was approaching Achorage airspace, they would have been in the air for 6-7 hours, so fatigue was probably creeping up. Combined with the language barrier (if the pilot was not an Expat), that only makes it more plausible that the pilot couldn't understand what was being said. Add in that the pilot, at that time, was probably expecting Air Traffic Control to be giving them instructions on descending, suddenly having to answer coded questions can be confusing. And if you think I'm being racist, go look up some of the JFK tower recordings involving airline from non-english speaking countries, the standard can be appaling.

ETA: Of course it would help a lot if we had the transcript.

[spooked911]

10. sorry, but I cannot see how a language miscommunication

would result in them putting 7500 into the transponder and ignoring radio calls.

[SDuderstadt]

13. Jesus, Spooked...

is EVERYTHING a fucking conspiracy to you???

[zappaman]

14. sorry dude

Spooked is too busy figuring out why the evil powers that be are putting less crunchberries in cap'n crunch...

[defendandprotect]

8. "Made them" . . . could mean they told them they needed to check whether

functioning . . .

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with this event at all --

interesting --

What is interesting is that one story has the Koreans saying that air traffic controllers made them put on the hijack signals: "The airline's administrator, Michael Lim, said: "Our captain was following their instruction. even told the captain to transmit code 7500, hijack code. Our captain, who realized how serious it is, they were just following instructions.""

[Old Troop]

15. I guess the biggest question is why hasn't at least one member of the

legions of people in on the conspiracy spilled their guts?

[zappaman]

16. they can't spill their guts

cuz they know the evil powers that be can take them out easily with a microwave weapon.
these millions of people are terrified I tell you!!!

[spooked911]

17. people who really know something about the 9/11 conspiracy

do have to worry about their lives.

Many have been killed already:
http://dead911whistleblowers.blogspot.com/

[SDuderstadt]

18. Jesus, Spooked...

more of your goofy, unproven bullshit.

For example, how is William Cooper's death "suspicious" and how is it remotely connected to 9/11? In what way was Cooper a "9/11 whistleblower"?

Again I ask, is there ANY conspiracy theory so goofy that even YOU won't embrace it, dude?

[zappaman]

19. I guess that means

you really don't know something, huh?

[PufPuf23]

20. No insult to Spooked but this link caused my pc to repeatedly open

IE with multiple windows and when I tried to close IE windows more were spawned. I wasn't even using IE as a browser.

Spooked is the author of the blog that had interesting names but no follow-up.

My pc (Vista alas was only option during purchasing period from Dell)acted weirder than any other occasion since the 2007 purchase and also weirder and more out control since I went from dial up to Hughes satellite in 2008.


So I hit the power surge strip to stop the spawning of of repeated multiple tab IE windows, rebooted emptied cache, and ran Norton. and all seems well.

I do not believe the 9-11 Commission narrative but in a more pragmatic manner

The Van der Sloot case in Peru is an interesting conspiracy theory topic.

[spooked911]

21. that's bizarre and I'm sorry

but it's just a blogspot blog and I've never had any problems with that site. Sounds like your comp was going crazy.

[SDuderstadt]

22. It was the computer's bullshit detector going...

haywire. That should tell you something, dude.

[SDuderstadt]

23. It was the computer's bullshit detector going...

haywire. That should tell you something, dude.

[zappaman]

25. another piece in the puzzle?

So, you've got this so far?

After 9 years, I would expect you would have a little more done by now.