False Electronic Hijacks WERE Injected onto NEADS Radar Screens While 9/11 Was Occurring

[spooked911]

Another important, excellent article from "Shoestring911". This is piece particularly interesting since the idea that the hijacking exercises interfered with the 9/11 response has been mocked and/or ignored and/or totally downplayed here.
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http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2010/08/lets-get-rid-of-this-goddamn-sim-how.html


Military personnel responsible for defending U.S. airspace had false tracks displayed on their radar screens throughout the entire duration of the 9/11 attacks, as part of the simulation for a training exercise being conducted that day. Technicians at NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) were still receiving the simulated radar information around the time the third attack, on the Pentagon, took place. Those at NORAD's operations center in Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado, were still receiving it several minutes after United Airlines Flight 93 apparently crashed in rural Pennsylvania.

No one has investigated why false tracks continued being injected onto NORAD radar screens long after the U.S. military was alerted to the real-world crisis taking place that morning. And yet we surely need to know more about these simulated "inputs" and what effect they had on the military's ability to respond to the 9/11 attacks.

NEADS TECHNICIANS TOLD TO TURN OFF 'SIM SWITCHES'
The terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 took place in airspace that was the responsibility of NEADS, based in Rome, New York. NEADS was therefore responsible for trying to coordinate the military's response to the hijackings. And yet, in the middle of it all, at 9:30 a.m. that morning a member of staff on the NEADS operations floor complained about simulated material that was appearing on the NEADS radar screens. He said: "You know what, let's get rid of this goddamn sim. Turn your sim switches off. Let's get rid of that crap." <1> Four minutes later, Technical Sergeant Jeffrey Richmond gave an instruction to the NEADS surveillance technicians, "All surveillance, turn off your sim switches." (A "sim switch" presumably allows a technician to either display or turn off any simulated material on their radar screen.) <2>

This means that at least some of the radar scopes at NEADS were still displaying simulated information--presumably false tracks--57 minutes after an air traffic controller at the FAA's Boston Center called there and announced: "We have a problem here. We have a hijacked aircraft headed towards New York." Forty-eight minutes had passed since the first attack on the World Trade Center occurred, and 31 minutes since the second tower was hit and it became obvious that the U.S. was under attack. It was only three minutes after Richmond gave his instruction, at 9:37 a.m., that the Pentagon was struck in the third successful attack that morning. <3>

[zappaman]

1. why a new investigation?

you seem to have put all of the pieces together.
take all your "evidence" to the families that lost someone.
once they sign on to your "theories", you will have a strong group that will have to be listened to by The PTB.
it should be easy to get the families on your side, right?
after all, your "evidence" is unimpeachable.

[deconstruct911]

2. "in their own words"

Who do YOU think got kissinger to step down?

[SDuderstadt]

6. The fact that he would have to disclose the names of...

the clients of his consulting firm, under the disclosure requirements and the vetting process.

And, it's simply not true that he had to "step down", as he never accepted the appointment to begin with.

[BeFree]

15. You asked

Its goofy to think that the job was not Kissinger's.

They asked, he said sure.

The families raised hell and he had to refuse the job, he defacto stepped down from a position he as good as had.

[SDuderstadt]

16. You need to learn to read, dude...

if you even know how and were to read the pubic law creating the 9/11 Commission, you would know that in order to avoid a conflict-of-interest, Kissinger would have had to disclose the names of the clients of his consulting firm. No one is saying the families did not play a role at all, but it's silly to claim it was solely or even significantly because of that.

[BeFree]

17. So

The people that the evil Kissinger worked for were so anti-American that he could not disclose their names? That's why he had to back out?

[SDuderstadt]

19. Nevermind, dude...

you really ought to take a remedial reading class. Seriously.

I doubt a critical thinking class would be of much help.

[BeFree]

3. Remember?

There was a command and control aircraft in the skies that morning.

Forget the top general's name but he was 'on the way to Europe' that morning.
The flight he was on had all critical hardware onboard to control and command troops, flights, etc.

The general had a wide command of, and complete observations of, nearly all military air movements.

Too, there were AWACS planes in flight.

They had the whole thing planned very well. And they almost got away with it.

But now people know the truth.

[zappaman]

4. hahahahahahaha

"They had the whole thing planned very well. And they almost got away with it.
But now people know the truth."

yes, thanks to you intrepid internet sleuths, they didn't get away with it.
reminds me of SCOOBY DOO "Curses, I would have gotten away with if it wasn't for those meddling kids!"
you guys should pool your resources and get a MYSTERY VAN.

:rofl:

[BeFree]

5. wow

Can you be anymore uncivil?

Keep digging. Of course Zappa would be ashamed, eh?

[SDuderstadt]

7. Being civil doesn't require according goofy bullshit...

respect, dude.

I don't believe Frank Zappa would tolerate your goofy bullshit either.

[BeFree]

8. Ok lets play

Zappa would not like your goofy bullshit. He damn sure wouldn't tolerate it.

He was always for questioning authority in many ways, shapes and forms.

He suggested one feel and be free to do so.

[zappaman]

9. he might also want evidence

You know what that is?
back to the point, now that they didn't get away with it, what happens?

[BeFree]

10. Ah, good question

What happens now?

Powers That Be, PTB, will determine that up to and including the point where they drop the curtain.

In the meantime the evidence is being widely disbursed, as seen here in this thread. Evidence that I doubt you will even take the time to disprove.

PS. I bet wiki is being slammed by people looking up Frank Zappa, right about now.

[zappaman]

11. uh huh

yes, the "evidence" has been sooooo widely disbursed.
you are just as much as an embarrassment to the democratic party as birthers are to the republicans.

[BeFree]

12. I'll play

You are an embarrassment to the democratic party as birthers are to the republicans.

I see you can't or won't even attempt to take on the issues posed in this thread.

Zappa would be embarrassed.

[zappaman]

13. get busy "mysterying"!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GIchwvJ-aNk/S4GOTQVVazI/AAAAAAAAOnc/meX2cuM3-tg/s800/Mystery+machine+cartoon+version.jpg

[SDuderstadt]

14. I'd love for you to point to...

my "goofy bullshit". Can you, dude? Or, are you too busy "disbursing" your own.

[snooper2]

27. you know the TRUTH!

Sweet...

Now could you please spell out what happened with details for the rest of us?

[hack89]

18. I don't see any reference to False Electronic Hijacks in the link

adding a little personal spin to the story?

[spooked911]

20. Since hijacking exercises were being run on the morning of 9/11 by NORAD,

some of the electronic injects should have been "hijacked planes". Do you have evidence otherwise?

[hack89]

23. It doesn't work that way

you made the assertion - you need to prove it. You can start by listing all the exercises and their purposes.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

21. were these false tracks discussed at the 9/11 commission?

[SDuderstadt]

22. Just in case anyone....

buys into Spooked's goofy bullshit, here's what 911myths has to say about it:

http://www.911myths.com/html/operation_vigilant_guardian.html

[spooked911]

24. that piece doesn't refute anything and leaves out other important info

that is in my link.

[SDuderstadt]

25. Like what, dude?

Please be specific.

[spooked911]

26. NORAD Exercise a Year Before 9/11 Simulated a Pilot Crashing a Plane into a New York Skyscraper

http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2010/07/norad-exercise-year-before-911.html


NORAD Exercise a Year Before 9/11 Simulated a Pilot Trying to Crash a Plane into a New York Skyscraper--The United Nation Headquarters