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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:39 AM
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Mathematicians?! Binary questions.
I guess I need one of them snappy tinfoil hats b/c I noticed something about the stock market on Monday that just won't let me go. I'm here cuz I gotta ask.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:52 PM
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1. I gotta ask
What are you babbling about.
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:13 PM
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2. I just found this interesting.
Decided that to have a binary figure on a binary kind of date a bit out of the ordinary.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average on Columbus Day, 10/11/10 finished at 11010.11.

I'm somewhat fond of pencil puzzles, including cryptograms, which is essentially letter substitution. Puzzles that become solvable when you recognize a pattern and this struck me as more than random.

That's all. Didn't know where else to ask this kind of question.

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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:09 PM
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3. What is the question you are trying to ask?
Do you think someone rigged the stock market to close with ones and zeros just to look kind of like the date?
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:33 PM
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4. I think if someone were gonna rig the market it would be for a lot more than to look like a date.
Edited on Thu Oct-14-10 11:35 PM by jotsy
It struck me as odd and hard not to wonder about what the odds would be on both numbers being a binary...expression on the same day as random occurrence, which I'm guessing would be on the long side, but anything's possible.

If I'm to risk spilling all beans up my sleeve, I run the risk of some serious pointing and laughing, and I get enough of that on the boards, tyvm. I'm an imaginative fiction writer, there's story and back story in lots of what I see around me every day.

I'm wanting to sense some kind of clandestine communication, I guess and seeking information about stuff I don't know too much to either dismiss it or look harder. I understand there is something of a binary alphabet. One of the numbers does in fact correlate to a letter of the alphabet, but not the other. Are binary messages used by some in such fashion and does any model exist for...decoding?

I figured a forum where 'conspiracy theories' are shop talk is the place to pose such an inquiry. If the tone of the questions I've gotten thus far are indicative of a "is this person here to stir what later hits the fan or on the proverbial level, I say I believe in the BFEE and that the nature of our own governing bodies at the turn of the century had everything to gain from the disaster that launched their usurpation of the people's rights.

This is just stubborn curiosity, I can seek answers elsewhere if my questions are offensive.

Edited to finish a sentence.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:08 AM
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5. Well... I'm a mainframe programmer
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 01:10 AM by Ohio Joe
I can tell you there are 16 bits (each bit is a 1 or 0) to a byte, a byte is one character, a letter, number or symbol. There are several ways to translate the bytes depending on what platform you are on and regardless, those numbers translate to nothing, there simply is not enough of them.

edit - spelling error :(
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 02:00 AM
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6. Insufficient input then, got it.
I appreciate the response. Would six more characters provide enough? I've come upon an additional number, also a binary, 101010.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:13 AM
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7. Well...
With the original 13, that gives 19 bits, enough for the 16 but which ones do you want to use and in what order? If you tell me which ones you want to use and in what order, I can translate it into the EBCDIC character it represents. EBCDIC is the only one I know off the top of my head but perhaps someone else can translate it into ASCII, I can't.
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 11:38 AM
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9. Back to crunching for me then.
Thank You.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:40 AM
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11. Quit showing off...
O.J!

Damn showboater.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:33 AM
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10. I thought there were 8 bits to a byte...
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 02:23 PM
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8. ascii chart at http://www.aboutmyip.com /AboutMyXApp /AsciiChart.jsp
Character Decimal Value Hex Value Binary Value Octal Value

k 107 6B 1101011 153

Now you'll find something!
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-10 12:18 PM
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12. Thanks all!
Some theories have surfaced and if I'm on to anything at all, I'll know before the holidays have blown through.
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