The Case of the Missing Helicopter

[spooked911]

Check out after the 2nd hit in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-_EEiEUei8
at 0:47, a helicopter comes out from behind the North tower.

I have been unable to see this helicopter, which would have had a great view of the 2nd hit, in any other 2nd hit video.

For instance, look at this video of the second hit, which clearly shows the west side of the North tower, and no helicopter in that position for any time after the hit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhBBdibvaLg

This is clear evidence of video compositing at some level. Particularly interesting is that the first video, which doesn't show a plane, shows the helicopter, indicating that the helicopter was deleted from videos with the plane.

[LARED]

1. Gee whiz a new mystery for the spatially challenged.

Spooked once again the only mystery here is how to get you to understand you have a problem reckoning spatial relationships.

[zappaman]

2. now THAT is a mystery

Congrats Spooked!
You must have just caught something that NO ONE else has in 9 years!

[spooked911]

3. perhaps you could address the substance of the post

thanks

[spooked911]

4. please

if you see a chopper anywhere CLOSE to that spot in other footage, show me where

[LARED]

5. You don't see the chopper in the second video because

the chopper is not within the frame of the second video. There is not enough information to know if the chopper should be seen or not, but given the cropped left side of the second video it's a pretty good assumption the chopper is simply off in the distance to the left. (A infinity more sensible assumption than it shows faked video) So in reality no one can know if there is a chopper or not.

This is just like the Lloyd England images where you cannot decipher spatial relationships. Again depth compression plays a role as well as angular relationships. Face it Spooked this common thread you have about "things just not looking right" is solely your problem.

[spooked911]

6. You're wrong.

The chopper comes out from behind the North tower, to the south and west of it, in the top video. How or why on earth could the chopper be off the distance to the left (to the north of the north tower) in the second video? That would be completely contradictory.

As far as the Lloyde England story, there were several issues going on there, that you and your pals never even addressed or failed to understand-- most notably the difference in foliage.

[zappaman]

7. "you and your pals"

No, we understood things like space and distance.
Besides, we were eagerly awaiting your photo analysis.
Why is it taking so long?

[LARED]

12. Spooked if I had any desire to help, I would create an image to show you

you I am right. But based on past history it would be a futile effort.

[sgsmith]

8. I'd suggest you look at this 2nd hit video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA1muyTbpD4&NR=1

I've never seen this video posted before, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't been linked to somewhere. Posting date on youtube is Oct 02, 2010. At about 02:14, the second hit a/c becomes visible in the upper right quadrant of the frame. Flames exit WTC at about 02:25. A low flying a/c (helicopter) can be seen just to the right of the radio tower at 02:42, and it travels south to north until about 02:49 and becomes visible again in the upper right quad at 03:15.

There's also a second a/c (helicopter?) transitioning right to left starting at about 03:00 until about 03:09. Starts off obscured by the NJ shoreline, and exits frame left about half way down the frame.

[LARED]

9. Spooked if you watch this video

you get a sense of how far away the helicopter seen in your first video really is. It's that depth compression thingy that seems to trip you up all the time.

[spooked911]

13. thanks--

that could be the same helicopter as shown in the first video. Then the question is whether it is the same one as in the second video.

The one in the second video is in a similar position but appears rather higher up. I suppose it could just be a perspective trick, except that it doesn't seem to be flying the same direction and is very high up.

[defendandprotect]

10. Interesting .... and presumably there actually was a helicopter -- at least one --

there flying around?

As I recall one of the helicopter pilots was killed in NYC when a car

crashed into he and his wife on a sidewalk?

[LARED]

11. How do you know the heliocopters were not fakes like

the planes?

[spooked911]

14. that's right about the strange death of one of the pilots

a taxi crashed into him on the sidewalk in a freak accident.