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NYMdaveNYI Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 07:34 PM
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I heard some truther call in on the Thom Hartmann show just before.
He went on a rambling that eventually led him to say “9/11 was an inside job, and you know that, Thom.”


To which Thom responded “you need to remove that from your vocabulary. Because once you become a ‘truther,’ you’re the equivalent to a ‘birther’ on the right. No one takes you seriously.”


LET THAT BE A LESSON TO ALL OF DU’S TROOFERS.


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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 07:41 AM
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1. Is he the guy on Russia Today ?


Russian TV Channel Pushes 'Patriot' Conspiracy Theories

By Sonia Scherr

Five years ago, Russia Today made its debut as a news network aimed at enhancing Russia's image in the West.

Recently, however, the Kremlin-financed television channel has devoted considerable airtime not only to coverage that makes Russia look good, but to coverage that makes the United States look bad. Over the past year and a half, Russia Today has reported with boosterish zeal on conspiracy theories popular in the resurgent "Patriot" movement, whose adherents typically advocate extreme antigovernment doctrines. Its slickly packaged stories suggest that a legitimate debate is under way in the United States about who perpetrated the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, for instance, and about President Obama's eligibility for high office.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/fall/from-russia-with-love#


http://www.youtube.com/TheBigPictureRT He even shaved for TV and still is afraid of loosing credibility.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:48 AM
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2. Yeah
Let's just ignore all the evidence about 9/11 being an inside job because no one will take us seriously. Great plan.

With all due respect to Mr. Hartman, he is full of shit.
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:30 AM
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3. Thom lost me
some time ago over comments like this on various subjects, but comparing Richard Gage and over 1300 serious researchers with Orly Taitz is beyond ridiculous. I tune in for the brunch with Bernie hour whenever I can and that's it.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 11:38 AM
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4. Richard Gage and Orly Taitz are actually quite similar in that
they are both batshit crazy.
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NYMdaveNYI Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:18 PM
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5. dont forget David Ray Griffin nt
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:31 PM
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6. "over 1300 serious researchers "
People signing a petition after watching Gage's highly slanted presentation are not serious researchers.
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immune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 09:59 AM
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7. Wrong again Bolo,
if we were only counting people who signed the NYC CAN petition, we'd be talking about 80,000 people in New York alone. I don't keep track of signatures on the ae911truth petition anymore, it grows daily.

Highly slanted:

Without Precedent
Written by Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton

"How do you tell the story of 9/11 without assessing the borders that the hijackers penetrated, the aviation security that they foiled, the military and diplomatic policies that the United States used to pursue Usama Bin Ladin and al Qaeda in the months and years preceding September 11, 2001, or the emergency response in New York and northern Virginia on that horrible day? Revelations of disturbing problems in our intelligence agencies also suggested the need for further investigation. The clock was set to run out on the Joint Inquiry at the end of 2002, and the inquiry was uncovering more leads than it had the time to track down. If there were such systemic problems, then there clearly needed to be further inquiry into what went wrong and how to protect the American people better.

http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780307265494&view=excerpt

And they apparently didn't even think to question the possibility of thermate being used to collapse the towers.

There are surely more questions remaining than you (or the commission) have answers for, but some people are seeking those answers and it really frosts your ... well, you get the picture. Why are you so fearful of the truth?


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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:04 AM
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13. Hello Immune, Good Question:
"Why are you so fearful of the truth?"

Here's what I think makes them afraid...

If they ever opened up their heads to the whole body of facts....
Their belief systems would collapse and they'd become mumblers and parrots. Oh, wait....
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mrarundale Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 10:50 PM
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14. AA is owned by NY Real estate "Green Family Media"
Mark Green was the fake opposition candidate on 9-11 to run against billionaire 911 clean up guy Bloomberg.
So it's performers were neutralized a long time ago.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 10:46 AM
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8. Here's a bit of "troof" for you
Saudi Arabia financed your alleged hijackers and what the fuck have any of you people who are all for the official bushco story ever fucking done about it?

Name 1 fucking thing any of you have ever done about the SA financing of your hijackers.

Go ahead. Make my day you sanctimonious anti- "Troofers"

Let's hear your lessons.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 12:56 PM
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9. heh
what have you ever done getting your so-called "truth" out there?
post on internet forums?
cuts both ways, don't it?
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NYMdaveNYI Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:39 PM
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10. Yea, that’s a two-way street.
Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 03:40 PM by NYMdaveNYI
But don’t worry; they’re just keeping us in the dark because they got something BIG in the works.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 03:50 PM
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11. NYMdaveNYI, I've been reading the comment by Michael Moore in your profile

Did you come across his statement about being confronted by firefighters since Fahrenheit 911 came out ?

They were telling him about explosions, did he mention it anywhere else than in this tiny youtube video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1gk7iqNksg (starts after 30 seconds )
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-10 09:44 AM
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12. eh?
Bushco Is keeping you in the dark. Your dear 'Troofers' are trying to help you.

Bushco is your enemy. But who do you attack? Regular people seeking what bushco is hiding.

Bushco likes what you are doing.
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