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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 01:56 PM
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Come for another oddball question!
So, I'm trying to feather some interesting frolickings again.

As a DUer, caught a 30 minute political video, all in all I think most who frequent this part of the boards are already informed about, I link because of the faces put on the 'bad guys'. It's a message geared to a still thirsty for their bearings kind of audience. I've since seen the image elsewhere though, and presented in a completely different context. As the parent of an imposing girly dancing teenybopper, I rented Step Up 3, (a Disney production), the crew we root and cheer for at the end uses pretty much the same imagery and color scheme as the team flag.


From about 13 minutes and on, you see a lot of the 'red shield' which my grown son says may be a reference to Rothschild name and family crest.
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=541144&mesg_id=541144>

Trust me, flash forward to two minutes in, that's the best shot at the image in question close up. It's preceded by a mushy romance resolution scene, and a pretty syrupy one at that.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snIqAyFE9us&feature=related>

I guess I'm wanting to sense an effort to slip subliminal suggestions so I associate positively with the image. But then again, I'm not the film's intended audience.

How layered is communication as a process at this point? That's the most generic way I can think of to ask.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:10 PM
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1. I've got to ask...
is there ANY conspiracy theory so goofy that even YOU won't embrace it?
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-11 02:20 PM
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2. And what is it you think you know of me?
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mrobotsm2 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 05:58 AM
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3. the American Revolution - Jan 1 2011
what really happened on 911 was not as it seemed....






an example and warning of the fate of those who try to divide people....


http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1176-serves-em-right.html


At least we're on the same page...

Serves Em Right, eh, Randi....


Just for you, little traitors…



WHAT IS *WRONG* WITH HENRY?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YgdmtkTwO8&feature=related






we're this far from nuking all of you....




the X-MAS vacuum cleaner for the atheists....


shermer, randi, myers, pz, dawkins, harris




______________________________________






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz4R0GHfM-Y&

why does everyone always want to PUNCH you, shermer?

______________________________





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxrWz9XVvls&


take your meds, you little fckers...






now we are going to bury you...


And the lesson from all of this? DOUBLE!
____________________________


What do you want, you little ****ers?

more of these idiots


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4C5yzFmC80




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_for_evidence_of_the_paranormal

HOW N WON ALL THE PARANORMAL PRIZES!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus


pz myers does not exist…

http://richarddawkins.net/discussions/543672-inhertitance-of-acquired-behaviour-adaptions-and-brain-gene-expression-in-chickens

atheists, we’re gonna cut off your heads…

THE HIGH PRICE OF REVOLUTION

http://www.youtube.com/user/xviolatex?feature=mhum
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:14 PM
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7. Curious collection.
Not sure if you're trying to pick on me or extend an invitation. The fiction I like to write is often in that vein, and I love puzzles. So is your attempt to be cruel or kind, please clarify.

I'm pleased to be prone to paring the people from the parasitic propaganda pushing profiteers and their posse of politicians or other policing posers. (Rhyme and alliteration, my favored means of declaration)

I'd had enough at 5 and a half minutes of the Shermer vid. What was it doing on Fixed Noise's business channel, would be my first question there. I describe myself as a student of faith, which frees me from the confines and protocol of religious doctrine. The bible is man's interpretation of the will of God, I am entitled to my own. I daresay any deity deemed deserving would not condone the shedding of innocent blood.


Astrology and fortune tellers? This diligent fool from a distant hill views both interesting topics, but neither as fit to determine the details or direction of life's course.

Paranormal prize money? A paid for story meets that criteria, tyvm! I talk about what I did in my early 90's pseudoscience class in the open, and I'll get us both in trouble, I'm supposed to set a better example.

Welcome to DU, Mr. Obots

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 07:12 PM
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9. Poor mrobotsm2
I guess he was just too high-strung.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 07:21 PM
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10. wow
that guy made Larry seem reasonable!
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 10:50 AM
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11. Whoa!
That dude was all OVER the place!

One and done. Kinda sad. Coulda been very entertaining for quite some time.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 06:51 AM
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4. If I understand
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 07:25 AM by LARED
You are concerned that in this Disney movie geared toward teenybopper girls they are marketing the Rothschild's family shield image as a way to subliminally suggest fractional banking. But you believe fractional banking is an immense conspiracy to control the world by collapsing the world financial system.

Yes? No? Something else?
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 AM
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5. Just trying to reconcile how this image is the bad guy in one environment
and the hero in another.

Didn't Nissan change its name to Datsun for decades in order to separate itself from the image of a weapons manufacturer in the eyes of a buying American public?

My question remains unanswered, how layered is communication when it comes to messaging and the masses and to what end?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 10:12 AM
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6. I'm not sure what you mean by 'layered' nt
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 12:34 PM
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8. A long time ago, in a galaxy far far from this madness grown from the roots of yestercades,
I spent 60 hours a week building a desk as a headhunter, placing engineers and computer scientists with big companies like 3M and Hughes Aircraft Corporation. Glorified title for a specific brand of telemarketer, but the point is the sales meetings and the gimmicks employed to persuade, which we were coached on regularly. If communication, or language was getting that analyzed and manipulated then, how much more subtle and sophisticated do you think such gimmicks might be now, 25 years later? The hammering of trigger words as employed by the Bushco's are an interesting example. The tactics of rebutticans are almost entirely rooted in repetition and reinforced peripherally.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 07:33 PM
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13. I am very sure they have sharpened up their persuasive tools considerably.
And very good Op, K & R every word.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 11:08 AM
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12. I think it's nothing

Like most of the other inhabitants of the Frankfurt Judengasse, the Rothschilds took their name from their house. Although their civil status was uncertain, the inhabitants of the Judengasse derived a proud sense of identity from their ancestral homes. Pictorial representations of names were engraved or painted onto keystones and doors, and people often retained their names, and emblems, when they moved to another house.

The Rothschild name can be traced back to a sixteenth-century ancestor of Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), Isaak Elchanan who took the name Rothschild from a small house he occupied at the southern end of the Judengasse called zum Roten Schild ("House at the Red Shield").
http://www.rothschildarchive.org/ib/?doc=/ib/articles/data_faq_redshield
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-11 02:24 AM
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14. Will take a look tomorrow ....
people have been talking about this subliminal stuff for decades --

at least being concerned that it would happen --

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