Susan Lindauer

[k-robjoe]

This is all new to me. Does anyone know more about it?

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"Former CIA Asset, Susan Lindauer, provides an extraordinary first-hand account from behind the intelligence curtain (...)"

http://extremeprejudiceusa.wordpress.com/

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"Barrett :

It leads me to (my next question): You apparently had some kind of foreknowledge of 9/11. Can you explain to us what that was?

Lindauer :

Yes. This is a very interesting thing, and I’m glad…I hope your audience will pay attention to this. We absolutely expected 9/11 to happen. And there’s a subtlety here that I hope your audience will appreciate. In April and May of 2001 I was summoned to my CIA handler’s office and told that I needed to confront the Iraqi diplomats at the United Nations, through my back channel, with a demand for any fragment of intelligence regarding airplane hijackings and/or airplane bombings. And over the summer, that progressed to a deep belief that there was going to be an airplane hijacking attack, and some sort of aerial strike, on the World Trade Center. We talked about this in our one-on-one meetings practically every week. Just so we are clear, this was not a one-time conversation. This was a major focus of our efforts. Richard (Fuisz, Lindauer’s CIA handler) was very worried about it, very agitated about it, how Iraq must give us this intelligence. Now, I don’t mean to patronize you, but I’m sure you’re familiar with the concept of deniability. I do not think that Richard Fuisz knew all the details of 9/11. However, he knew enough. My book Extreme Prejudice goes into the conversations that we had in great detail. And he knew the timing of the attack. By August 2001, Richard was telling me not to go into New York City because this attack was immanent. And on the day of FBI Director Robert Mueller’s confirmation hearings, which I think was August 2nd–in my book it’s very clear, I’ve checked all the dates–Richard Fuisz told me that the attack was immanent. And I said, well, I’m going up to New York to ask my Iraqi sources about this again. And he said “Don’t go to New York, it’s too dangerous, I don’t want you going there again.” And I said “I’m just going up this weekend, and I promise I will not go back to New York.” And that’s how close this was. They knew a great deal. And what was interesting is that after 9/11, I get arrested, and he gets thirteen million dollars in payoffs. (laughs)"

http://extremeprejudiceusa.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/kevin-barrett-interview-for-no-lies-radio-jan-4-2011/

[hack89]

1. You do know, don't you, that she is a certified nutcase?

A former journalist and Congressional aide accused of working with Iraqi intelligence before the war was released from prison yesterday after a federal judge ruled that she could not be forced to take antipsychotic medication in an effort to make her competent to stand trial.

The judge, Michael Mukasey of Federal District Court in Manhattan, said he was not convinced that even if she took the medication, the defendant, Susan P. Lindauer, 43, would improve enough to be capable of standing trial.

At least a half dozen doctors for both the defense and the prosecution have found that Ms. Lindauer suffers from delusions of grandeur and paranoia, which makes her incompetent to stand trial, the judge said. But she refuses to accept the diagnosis or to take medication, he said. One doctor found that Ms. Lindauer had a history of psychotic episodes going back to her childhood, possibly at the age of 7, the judge said. These include her contention that she had gifts of prophecy that allowed her to report 11 bombings before they happened, that she spoke with divine inspiration and that she was an angel.

Among her paranoid delusions, doctors said, were the notion that she was being watched by hidden cameras in her apartment, that the Egyptian government had tried to assassinate her and that men next door had videotaped her under instructions from President Bill Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/09/nyregion/09spy.html

[k-robjoe]

2. No, I didn´t know about this

Thanks for the info.

[SDuderstadt]

3. I would also take anything involving...

Kevin Barrett with a huge grain of salt.

[k-robjoe]

4. She doesn´t seem like a typical "certified nutcase" though

From wikipedia :

"Lindauer attended East Anchorage High School in Anchorage, Alaska where she was an honor student and was in school plays. She graduated from Smith College in 1985. She earned a masters degree in public policy from the London School of Economics. She worked as a temporary reporter at the Seattle Post-Intelligencer for 13 weeks in 1987, and as an editorial writer at the The Everett Herald in Everett, Washington in 1989. She then was a reporter and researcher at U.S. News & World Report in 1990 and 1991. Her co-workers said she was a woman "prone to mood swings and erratic behavior".

She then worked for Representative Peter DeFazio, D-Oregon (1993) and then Representative Ron Wyden, D-Oregon (1994) before joining the office of Senator Carol Moseley Braun, D-Illinois, where she worked as a press secretary and speech writer."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Lindauer

[zappaman]

5. "She doesn´t seem like a typical "certified nutcase" though"

What is a "typical certified nutcase"?
THe NY TIMES article lays it out pretty clearly.
You might want to let this one go...

[k-robjoe]

6. She doesn´t seem like a typical "certified nutcase"

I think most people have some idea about the typical nutcase.

And you won´t get in a typical nutcase for those jobs.

Maybe it was the "war-adventures" of the USA since 911 that "tipped her over"?

Or has she "tipped over"? If she´s lying, then she is deliberately lying. It seems more like a deliberate choice, if she´s lying, that she is convinced that it is a good thing if people believe that the US knew about the 911-attack, and let it happen.

[jberryhill]

16. Are you kidding? A lot of nutcases are high achievers

High achievers are not "normal" in the first place.

[Ghost in the Machine]

7. Was she a CIA Agent or not?

Does the CIA routinely hire certified nutcases? I'm sure there wouldn't be any kind of character assassination attempt happening, especially by a judge who later went on to be Attorney General for the Bush Misadministration. Think of Bruce Ivans... Deborah Palfrey... Margie Schoedinger...

[hack89]

8. No reason to believe she is. nt

[Ghost in the Machine]

10. Hmmmm.. she is related to Andrew Card, too...

"In 2005 she was incarcerated in Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth, Texas for psychological evaluation..."

How many private civillians are incarcerated at, and evaluated by, military installations each year? Nothing to see here, just keep moving along....

[hack89]

12. The Federal Medical Center for women prisoners is at Carswell

The Federal Medical Center (FMC) Carswell in Fort Worth, Texas, is a Federal Bureau of Prisons facility that provides specialized medical and mental health services to female offenders. FMC Carswell is located in the northeast corner of Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base Fort Worth (formerly Carswell Air Force Base).<1> Its address is Building 3000 along J Street.<2> The facility, which houses approximately 1,400 inmates, is fully accredited by the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations and the American Correctional Association. It is the only medical facility for women in the Federal Bureau of Prisons.<3>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Medical_Center,_Carswell

[Ghost in the Machine]

13. Thanks for the info, hack...

fixing to head out on a road trip to the north carolina coast.. I'll check back in when I get back..

Peace,

Ghost

[k-robjoe]

9. Probably not

But I wouldn´t mind getting some information that would really leave no doubt that she wasn´t.

Her story is that her CIA handler was Richard Fuisz :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carl_Fuisz

But it seems that it is no secret that Richard Fuisz har worked for the CIA, so there´s no problem making up stories about him.

But then, when I read this, I don´t know what to think :

"To recount only one bizarre incident, Susan Lindauer, a US Congressional aide, testified that Dr. Richard Fuisz who was employed by the CIA had informed her that he knew for a fact that Megrahi was not involved in the Lockerbie bombing – and that he could identify the actual perpetrators, “If the government would let me.” After making her evidence known, Lindauer was charged with being an Iraqi agent and a federal court promptly gagged the loquacious Dr. Fuisz.

(...)

The Director of Central Intelligence should order his staff to remove the gag from Dr. Fuisz and any other informant with knowledge of the facts in this labyrinthine and Kafkaesque case – and report the findings to the President and the people as a matter of course."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14873

Fist thing I wonder is : Is this legit? Did it really happen this way?

That she testified about this, before she got into real trouble and got arrested?

And second question, if it is legit, if it happened this way, does it really mean anything that Fuisz was gagged by the CIA? Or would he be gagged anyhow? My guess is he would be gagged anyhow.

[hack89]

11. What evidence is there that Richard Fuisz was CIA? nt

[k-robjoe]

14. I assumed that he was, and that it was "common knowledge"

But your question made me check some more. And this quote makes me wonder if it really was "common knowledge" at the time that Lindauer gave that testimony.

Sunday Herald :

"United Nations diplomats are outraged that the US government is apparently suppressing a potential key trial witness. Diplomats are now demanding that the CIA agent, Dr Richard Fuisz, be released from the gagging order. Fuisz, a multi-millionaire businessman and pharmaceutical researcher, was, according to US intelligence sources, the CIA's key operative in the Syrian capital Damascus during the 1980s where he also had business interests."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20000528/ai_n13949725/

[k-robjoe]

15. Big hmmm...

This is making me go "hmmm...."

The story about the testimony about the Lockerbie bombing seems legit.

But then, if it his, then she and her CIA-handler can hardly have been trusted by the CIA after that episode.

So how can the rest of her story possibly be true?

Hmmmm....

[Ghost in the Machine]

19. Police chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked

Police chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked

Published Date: 28 August 2005
By MARCELLO MEGA

A FORMER Scottish police chief has given lawyers a signed statement claiming that key evidence in the Lockerbie bombing trial was fabricated.

The retired officer - of assistant chief constable rank or higher - has testified that the CIA planted the tiny fragment of circuit board crucial in convicting a Libyan for the 1989 mass murder of 270 people.

{snip}

The fragment of circuit board therefore enabled Libya - and Megrahi - to be placed at the heart of the investigation. However, Thurman was later unmasked as a fraud who had given false evidence in American murder trials, and it emerged that he had little in the way of scientific qualifications.

Then, in 2003, a retired CIA officer gave a statement to Megrahi's lawyers in which he alleged evidence had been planted.
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Police-chief-Lockerbie-evidence-was.2656485.jp

[k-robjoe]

20. I don´t have a problem with that

Here is what I do have a problem with:

Lindauer was approached by her handler, dr. Richard Fuisz ;

"...he spoke to US congressional aide Susan Lindauer, telling her he knew the identities of the Lockerbie bombers and claiming they were not Libyan."

And she testified about this. ( And he was gagged. )

This is in 1994 (95?).

So how are we supposed to believe that Lindauer and Fuisz were "back in business", working for the CIA, in 2001, when she allegedly was informed about the coming terrorist attack?

That doesn´t make any sense.

[k-robjoe]

22. Re : Police chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked

"Lockerbie documents: Labour 'did all it could' to secure bomber's release
The former Labour Government did "all it could" to help Libya secure the release of the Lockerbie bomber, Britain's most senior civil servant said today."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8308169/Lockerbie-documents-Labour-did-all-it-could-to-secure-bombers-release.html

[jberryhill]

17. Does the CIA hire nutcases?

Yes. And some non-nutcases become nutcases working there.

G. Gordon Liddy? Major nutcase.

[Raphael Weber]

21. Certified nutcase?

„Certified nutcase“

You know that there are sometimes cases of certified nutcases that aren’t nutcases at all, e.g. in Nazi-Germany and USSR. But evenn today this can happen in a democracy. Look for example at this case of some German tax investigators who were very successful against big banks and were then certified as „having a querulant personlaty“ and forced into early retirement. Only problem the certification was complete bogus.
http://www.whistleblower-netz.de/pdf/WB_in_Germany.pdf

And if you take a closer look at Susan Lindauer than this article of the New York Times then things look way more complicated. Here is an article by Michel Collins pointing out the mistakes of the NYT. Here some excerpts:

The story leaves out the psychiatrist who examined Lindauer just after her arrest and found no such thing. It fails to mention the two psychotherapists who saw Lindauer over a period of months and failed to report any of this. Observation and interaction over an extended period are powerful tools for diagnosis.
The reporter also failed to note the completed report submitted to the court by a distinguished Washington, D.C. area psychiatrist and academic which reportedly says that Lindauer is competent to stand trial.
The psychiatrist is scheduled to appear on Lindauer's behalf at the next hearing before Judge Preska on July 7, 2008. But discovering this would require that the reporter actually talk to the defendant.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0806/S00332.htm

The New York Times described the last hearing of former judge, now U.S. Attorney General Mukasey, on the prosecution's request to have Lindauer forcibly drugged. He said that "Judge Mukasey declined to rule on the request, saying that the case would be assigned to a new judge -- which turned out to be Loretta A. Preska -- and that she would eventually have to decide." NYT
That's entirely incorrect. In his "Opinion and Order" of Sept. 6, 2006, Mukasey wrote: "Based on the evidence presented at a Sell hearing on May 4 and May 9, 2006, for the reasons explained below, the government has failed to carry this burden --- Accordingly, the motion is denied."


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0806/S00332.htm

The New York Times article referred to the defense witnesses' testimony as "suggestively odd." Why would the Times make that inference?
The first witness, Kelly O'Meara, was a former reporter for the Washington Times and Insight Magazine and a senior congressional staffer for over two decades. She established a strong connection between Lindauer and an individual reported to be a part of U.S. intelligence, a relationship that endured over time.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0806/S00332.htm

The story erred by ignoring Mukasey's highly significant "opinion and order" that denied the government the ability to physically force drugs on the defendant. The reporter jettisoned the facts by claiming that Mukasey simply passed that issue along to Lindauer's current judge, a factually incorrect statement.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0806/S00332.htm

There is much more to the story than meets the NYT’s eye.
Several psychiatrists testified in favour of Susan Lindauer.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0809/S00157.htm
The wish to force drugs into Lindauer’s body.
People testifying that Lindauer did indeed made prewarnings.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0901/S00210.htm
And these affidavits look pretty impressive for a „certfied nutcase“.
http://extremeprejudiceusa.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/brian-shaughnessy_attorney_affidavit1.pdf
http://extremeprejudiceusa.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/parke-godfrey-affidavit-on-911-warning.pdf


Maybe it’s less about Susan Lindauer’s psychological health than about the question whether she shood have a trial (and the possibility to make her case) or not:

Ms. Lindauer's Attorney, Brian W. Shaughnessy pointed out that he could find no other instance where federal, state or local prosecutors have ever argued for a defendant's incompetence to stand trial over the objections of the defendant and defendant's Counsel, when that defendant was a successfully functioning member of the community and a full participant in her defense.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0901/S00210.htm

[sofa king]

18. Crazy as she sounds, it would explain why Tariq Aziz has to die.