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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 09:18 AM
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How many people know that the US govt actually concluded that Oswald was not the only shooter?
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 09:20 AM by spooked911
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSCA

The HSCA concluded in its 1979 report that:
2. Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that at least two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations.
3. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy.


Yes, they also say Oswald did it, and they ruled out a lot of groups in being complicit. But still, it is remarkable that the Warren commission lone gunman explanation is the one that has been exclusively promulgated by the media.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 10:02 AM
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1. It's 2011
the acoustical evidence has been debunked many times over since the report.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 11:58 AM
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4. Cherry picking is essential to all of the best CT's
Without it they do not exist.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:23 PM
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6. EVERYONE cherry picks.
OCTists do it at least as much as CTists.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:55 PM
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11. Yes, but some people cherry pick from cherry trees, instead of poison ivy /nt
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 05:57 AM
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16. all in the eye of the beholder (nt)
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:23 PM
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5. debunked by who?
and did the govt ever retract the HSCA findings?
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:31 PM
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9. start here...
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 05:59 AM
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17. thanks-- but clearly this is controversial
and the HSCA didn't base their findings solely on acoustic evidence
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 07:45 AM
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18. Let us know when your...
"knowledge" has progressed to present day.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:44 AM
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19. which findings?
Honestly, spooked, yesterday you posted that you "only just learned of the HSCA findings." If you now intend to school us on them, you'll have to do more work than that.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:46 AM
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20. "Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that at least two gunmen fired..."
The HSCA didn't "conclude" Oswald wasn't the only shooter. They acknowledged that acoustical evidence (and for the record, acoustical evidence alone) established a high probability that there were at least two gunmen. The acoustical evidence was later shown to be incorrect. Therefore, since it was the SOLE BASIS for the "high probability" that there were two gunmen, that probability disappears when the evidence is proven incorrect.

A and only A implies B in this scenario.

A is denied.

Therefore, there is no basis for asserting B.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 10:22 AM
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21. damn you!
with your silly logic and reasoning!
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 10:17 AM
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2. And, of course...
you leave out the later findings of the National Academy of Sciences.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:24 PM
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7. I am not aware of that
I only just learned of the HSCA findings
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:54 PM
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10. Seriously? You only just learned about the HSCA now?

Where were you at the time?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 05:16 PM
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13. "I only just learned of the HSCA findings"
Okay, I rest my case.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 05:55 PM
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14. Welcome to 2011! n/t
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 09:23 PM
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15. Give or take a few decades... /nt
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 11:28 AM
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3. "exclusively promulgated by the media"
:eyes:
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 04:25 PM
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8. NO? What news organization promotes two shooters?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 05:13 PM
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12. Woo boy,
Spooked, here's a clue. Look up promulgated.
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