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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 05:22 PM
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 07:16 AM
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1. This video .....
Edited on Thu Aug-25-11 07:17 AM by wildbilln864
in the OP shows the windows being blown out right before the collapse of building 7.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 10:19 AM
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2. No, it doesn't
It indirectly shows the progressive vertical failure propagating upward, just as the NIST FEA model predicts. There is no rational reason to think the windows were broken by magical silent explosives.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 02:58 PM
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3. you're right!
"There is no rational reason to think the windows were broken by magical silent explosives."
That's true because there's no such thing as "magical silent explosives". But standard explosives and/or incendiaries could do the job. No magic required!
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 03:14 PM
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4. Should be easy for you then
to provide audio proof for these explosions since the collapse was caught on numerous videos.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 04:19 PM
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6. Well....
Edited on Thu Aug-25-11 05:13 PM by wildbilln864
I didn't take any video so no.
And it being faked to look like planes caused the collapse would require who ever to use the smallest charges needed to minimize any sounds of explosions. But many witnesses did indeed think they heard them.
But I'll look for some that maybe others have made and posted. Any video out there though was already screened and/or edited IMHO.
But listen here at about 37 seconds in...Keep your eye on that building.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:22 AM
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13. That video was shot around 2:30 in the afternoon
... not around 5:21, and it doesn't sound anything like a controlled demolition. And we've discussed many times how the firemen knew the building would probably fall.

Keep looking.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 04:34 PM
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7. and here...
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:16 AM
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12. That video was shot around 10:30 in the morning
Edited on Fri Aug-26-11 08:23 AM by William Seger
We're looking for something around 5:21 in the afternoon, preferably one that sounds remotely similar to a large controlled demolition.

Keep looking.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 03:38 PM
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5. how does that make any sense at all?
Are you proposing that carefully timed explosions blew out (some of) the windows sequentially from bottom to top?

Why? What's the advantage of using explosives on the upper floors?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 04:43 PM
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8. what's the advantage? you're joking right?
to make sure the whole building is demolished. No big chunks left, no floors left standing as in this example.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 04:54 PM
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9. are you?
Are you seriously suggesting that the way to avoid a failed demolition is to set off explosives on practically every floor, but apparently just in one corner of the building?

I'm frankly kind of tired of trying to guess what people intend to argue.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 04:58 PM
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10. nope...
that's just the faulty way you interpret it!

"I'm frankly kind of tired of trying to guess what people intend to argue." Get some rest.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 06:29 PM
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11. thanks for your concern, but an argument would be better
Do you seriously think the footage you posted looks like a controlled demolition? If so, why on earth? Don't you have anything at all?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:30 AM
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14. Why would they be so concerned about big chunks being left over? nt
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