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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 09:59 PM
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America: the new heart of darkness

Our creature comforts have made silent cowards of us all
John Kaminski


February 1, 2005

... absolute power corrupts absolutely.
— Lord Acton

All a man can betray is his conscience.
— Joseph Conrad



"We do it because we can," the military man said smugly. And by such philosophy, the corporate American war machine tries to take the world to its grave.

The former general and recent Secretary of State Colin Powell's words still ring in my ears: "We don't count the Iraqi dead," he said. Perhaps it was because he knew he couldn't count that high.

For a month I've looked around for something positive to say, something encouraging, uplifting, productive ... and failing that, perhaps something consoling, some obvious explanation of the twisted perversion that has wrapped its petrochemical tentacles around the throat of humanity and keeps squeezing.

Across the gray landscape of languid lies and malevolent misconceptions, I see nothing to cling to. No ray of hope. Only lies, self-serving twists of what used to be called logic. Freedom is no longer safe, they tell us. You must have a number. And while you're at it, take this toxic vaccine, and no, you won't be able to sue the manufacturer if you get sick. Just do it, as the slogan commands us.

The right to a fair trial is no longer guaranteed. You can be put in jail or executed for reasons that can be kept secret. And still, on the crumbling streets of America, most people go about their business as if nothing has happened.

Sensible people, who in the deepening darkness of their own secret hearts must realize something has definitely happened, that something definitely will happen. Sensible people, suddenly afraid to speak what they really believe for fear their neighbors will overhear and tell someone with a gun and a uniform, or worse, an employer with an important contract who wants no employees who don't agree with the way things are. And then, they think, paralyzed by fear, who will feed the kids? Scared silence follows.

Who would have thought that democracy would come to mean tyranny? OK, Orwell. And many other now unpopular voices, never heard in our manacled media.

<snip>

By their silent complicity, the American people are accessories to all these horrendous crimes before, during, and after the fact, and deserve the same punishment as its leaders.

It’s a little something to remember when on that fateful day the world finally comes calling to repay America for the gifts it has bestowed upon the world.

Just don’t say you didn’t know. Because people with guns don’t listen.

more...
http://uruknet.info/?s1=2&p=9380&s2=02
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:09 PM
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1. Time for a reminder
www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:24 PM
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2. American weapons of mass destruction used by American...
...troops following orders given by American commanders who carry out the policies implemented by George W Bush, appointed president of the United States, unchallenged by good American men and women who say nothing for fear that they will betray the spirit of America. Well, America has been betrayed and will continue to be betrayed unless we stand-up and shout, "enough, this must all end now!".
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nagbacalan Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:36 PM
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5. Thoreau: "We are men first, subjects afterwards."
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:26 PM
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3. Once again, John Kaminski is a stinking bag of Nazi filth.
From the same column, here's a graf you didn't quote:
There is no terror threat. It was invented by the Israelis in the White House who wanted to take the focus off the genocide going on in Israel. The 9/11 deception will not be solved until the Israeli component of it is unearthed, and right now, that won’t happen because the entire 9/11 skeptics movement is riddled with Israeli moles and Zionist apologists.
Outright hardcore Naziism.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:43 PM
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6. That's not Nazi rhetoric. Many Israelis say much the same thing.
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 11:52 PM by indigobusiness
Human rights abuses and official corruption are rampant in Israel. Many Israelis are outraged at the forces at work within their Country/govt.

http://www.barrychamish.com/html/natan_sharansky.html

http://www.barrychamish.com

http://www.barrychamish.com/article_archive/bclist.html
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 12:56 AM
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7. Barry Charnish is a fucking loon.
He writes for Jeff Rense's Nazi shit site (which also doubles as a UFO wack site).
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 09:43 AM
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8. You, on the other hand
are immanently cool, calm, reasonable, and entirely out-to-lunch.

I'd put Kaminsky, Chamish, and Rense's credibity up against yours anyday.

You are the worst sort of knee-jerk mudslinger. Your claims are wildly out of context and unfair. Have you considered working for O'Reilly or Drudge, or maybe Limbaugh? You would fit right in.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:35 AM
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9. Have you considered working for David Duke? YOU'd fit right in.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:50 AM
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11. I rest my case.
Who you going after next...Jimmy Carter?
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nagbacalan Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:34 PM
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4. Forget any "shining city on the hill" talk as well as any prattle about
American "exceptionalism." The blind-obedience crowd of today is no different nor less dominant than the public indignation at those dasterdly Poles for their cowardly and treacherous attacks on The German border stations in 1939.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 10:45 AM
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10. Moving RE: the link is more about the 9/11 conspiracy.
Though there is information not regarding the 9/11 conspiracy the link does talk about it, so I am moving this to the 9/11 Forum.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:43 AM
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12. Locking
Mr. Kaminski bases much of his speculation on the claim that a handful of Zionists control and dominate US foreign policy. (Eg. read the trailer at the end of the article quoted above).

Such theories mimic many anti-Semitic memes made throughout history including being fully responsible for death of Christ (the cause of 9/11, the death of Democracy in the US, and the current world woes), blood libel (the training by Jews of how to be cruel, the joy at the attacks of 9/11, Jews taking special care to view the attacks, etc.), the attribution of magical powers (control over US foreign policy/media/money), and claims concerning a lack of patriotism (due to double loyalties).

To be blunt, this is naked anti-Semitism and theorists and theories which derive from such a sentiment are not appropriate for discussion.

Lithos
9/11 Forum Moderator
Democratic Underground

Addendum - Please note that much of the same mechanisms used above are also used to slander Muslims and are equally not approprate.

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