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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 09:25 AM Original message |
For Those Who Don't Believe Explosives Were Used in the WTC Collapses: |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. It is simply.... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Consider this: |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. What is is sheer lunacy |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Debunked? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. thanks for keeping an open mind! |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. We agree |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 01:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Or |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. This is not about the Bush version of 9/11 |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Yes, it is the same problem |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 09:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
58. King James Version |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
133. You actually have problems with the Bush version of 9/11? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Complete hogwash |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Uncontrolled collapse |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. A "more detailed study"? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Normal crashes |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. There seems to be a serious disconnect on this issue |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. No disconnect |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Actually they did look through the evidence |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. are you saying NIST had access to every sample they could have wanted? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. No I am not saying that |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Why is the fire-induced collapsed simpler? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 06:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. It is more than "fire-induced collapsed" |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 07:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Resistance |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Static versus dynamic loads |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Yes, I understand. The question is-- if a floor drops ten feet, does it |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. It was a lot more than just one floor falling if I recall correctly |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Is your comparison valid? |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. The volume of the space went from .... |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. do you understand what I'm driving at? |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
121. I don't think the fire got that hot, either |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Yes, Fires Are Not Hot Enough: Thermite Is |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Great post |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 08:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
70. Not hard to imagine |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. The siesmigraphs are important to this discussion. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Those siesmographs |
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NecessaryOnslaught (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. What about the molten steel? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. So how does explosives result in |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
117. Thermite Applied To Box Columns In 1993 |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Christopher Bollyn melted it with hot air. |
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NecessaryOnslaught (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 01:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. The only source? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Great finds! I was wondering about that myself-- if Bollyn was the only |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. Here's a few more |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 12:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Feh. Not even close. |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Then here's more sources who believe there was molten steel |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #56 |
71. Yes hard to imagine |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Explosives can contain a lot of energy. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Pressure is what cuts steel |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 02:42 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. 7 stories underground? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 07:17 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. How can you suggest the foundation pilings were blown? |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Isn't this the point of entire thread? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. So you are telling me you can't tell the difference |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. I'm not arguing molten steel in the basement. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I'm not saying the BUILDINGS looked different! |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. More charts...... |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-01-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Graphs |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-02-05 12:50 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. I understand your point....that's why I included the other set |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-02-05 07:39 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It's not my graph! |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-02-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I only use "my" and "yours" to differentiate between graph posts. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-02-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Hardly semantics |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
125. Blowing the foundation of the central core structure of the WTC towers |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #125 |
169. Core DET. At APROX. Impact Level = Top Tilting Wrong Way |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 03:42 AM Response to Reply #85 |
118. ViBraTion DeteCtoRs Set Off Charges In Basement At Impact |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 04:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. And the original sources were primary sources... |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Not for molten steel. |
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NecessaryOnslaught (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Please |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 07:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. It's sort of like fighting the Black Knight from the Holy Grail |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. I would tend to agree. |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 09:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. The melting point of aluminum is 1220.58 F |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Be On The Look Out Bolo..................... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. 9b |
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k-robjoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. No |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. It is my contention....... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. How do you know... |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Those explosions were at 9:23am |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Not all of them. |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. O.K |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #74 |
86. Got to do better than that |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Oh for Pete's sake, what evidence do you want? |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. You gotta do better with your refutin' |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Not! |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
126. I agree partly |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. What would it take to convince you otherwise? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I don't see that your links say anything about |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
72. NIST investigators |
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Lavachequirit (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
135. Woah, big whopper there!!! |
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OneMind (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
140. That is a hell of a big fish! |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #140 |
146. Compilation Of Proof That Fires Didn't cause Collapse |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #146 |
150. yours is not the last word |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 05:11 AM Response to Reply #146 |
153. HOW freefall was attained |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Free Fall Variances & Cause |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 04:44 AM Response to Reply #154 |
156. some calculations |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Good Math, My Error. Page Corrected THX! |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 05:49 AM Response to Reply #154 |
157. So, if the entire descending mass (building) encounter no |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. No Encounter W/Solid Structure |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Solid Structure? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-22-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Concrete Or Steel Standing |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. Detonators |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Explosives Encapsulated In Concrete, Detonators Added Recently |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Dude you are nuts. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. I Saw Documentary, It Focused On Special Coating On Rebar |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Enough to know your little construction project is pure |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. You Did Not Explain The Sand And Gravel |
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paulthompson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
24. I think... |
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paulthompson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. By the way |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-24-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Deleted message |
Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 01:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. AFP says they got it from Peter Tully |
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paulthompson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 04:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. If that's it... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. On the Atlantic Monthly article |
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Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
149. Paul, there are MANY witness sources about that molten metal! |
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paulthompson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. One more thing |
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k-robjoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Glad to help |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Not the picture he was looking for |
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k-robjoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. OK |
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paulthompson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Yes. Thanks. |
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k-robjoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. seatnineb |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. New York Times |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Paul........... |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. quite a difference |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #49 |
75. Looking at that picture |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-25-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. That's about half of the original picture. |
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seatnineb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. To quote the New York Times..... |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
80. Reminds me of the 9/11 commission investigation obstruction. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
73. Note the dates of these reports |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-21-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #24 |
155. A Few Small Explosions Distract & Improve The Ruse |
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Last Lemming (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
55. Also-- |
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ExCiber (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-26-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. I'm curious |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. What would be the point? |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
168. It Was All Over In 20 Seconds, Most On the Ground On 10 |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-27-05 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
82. You forgot one. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-28-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. The collapse started at the point of impact. |
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Lavachequirit (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
137. Sorry, but it didn't... |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #137 |
152. yet it was the first to fail |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-03-05 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
101. There is one more important pro-exposives argument-- |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-03-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Oh God, are you kidding? |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-03-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I knew you would say that! |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-03-05 11:16 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Short answer |
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NecessaryOnslaught (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-03-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. The NIST will just hypothesize- par for the course |
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NecessaryOnslaught (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-03-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. WTC construction manager: building could sustain multiple hits |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-03-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #101 |
106. That analysis could not be made with certainty in 1966 without tests |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
108. Explain The Sand And Gravel |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. First, welcome to DU! Second, I don't quite understand your point. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Volumes of Material |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Brilliant deduction |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Buildings Built To Demolish |
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k-robjoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #112 |
119. "one million times more" |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-09-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Link To Gravity Release Calculations |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #112 |
127. The core was not concrete. |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. WTC 7 |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Wow, great link. Thank you |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. No prob |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. This hardly proves there was no concrete in the core |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-17-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Check this out |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. I'm guessing that was where those 5 firemen |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #132 |
141. One Corner Of Concrete Core |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Is there any way |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. We will get the truth if enough people demand the truth |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Well |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 03:57 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Now Truth=Moving Target: Focus WHY Demand Justified |
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demodewd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. verifying Hoffman's thesis |
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ryan_cats (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-19-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #132 |
144. Here's one of the construction |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #127 |
139. Proof Of Steel Reinforced Cast Concrete Core |
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OneMind (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
113. Oh, there were explosions alright..... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Upwardly Travelling Pieces NOT of Collapse |
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OneMind (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 09:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. A better photo |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-08-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Better for Fast Steel But Not Upward |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-10-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Deleted message |
Lavachequirit (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #115 |
134. The flying pieces |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-18-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. Aluminum Pieces Everywhere |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-20-05 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
148. Deleted message |
Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-03-05 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
170. Here's Webster Tarpley's chapter on explosive demolition of the WTC |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Too Bad He Published In A pdf. |
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ancient_nomad (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 09:13 PM Response to Reply #172 |
173. Tool to convert pdf to html.... |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #173 |
174. OMG, They Had To Make A Converter:THX, Tarpleys Stuff Good |
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Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:02 AM Response to Reply #174 |
175. Many witnesses in NYC |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #175 |
176. “It’s coming down.” Expert Paints Dark Picture & Gee, No Concrete Core |
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Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:09 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. And he maintains the jet fuel and paper fires melt steel. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Tarpley Notes That FEMA Core Columns Are Never Seen |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #178 |
183. Have yout ried posting in the General Discussion section here to ask if |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Good Idea, Just Did. |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #185 |
186. My Post Asking For Any Who Had Seen The Documentary Lasted About |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #186 |
192. Sorry! Did anyone reply? You could keep kicking it up until you get an |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-10-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #192 |
195. 3 Hours Later It Was Gone. |
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Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #185 |
187. If you want one coherent summery of the whole 9/11 MIHOP inside job |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #187 |
191. I agree. It is the best so far. |
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Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-06-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #176 |
188. Yeah, Mark Loizeaux is a Mole in the 9/11 Plot |
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Christophera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Is A Mole Unconscious, Is Unconscious Better Than Secret? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-07-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Unconscious moles???? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-04-05 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
171. kick it nt |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
179. I think this Indira Singh story regarding WTC7 changes the dynamic |
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ROH (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
180. Speed of Collapse |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. This site has a fairly extensive analysis of the WTC collapse |
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Dancing_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #182 |
193. Here's an important scientific critique of a 911 research paper |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. Something that could be modelled relatively easy, I'd think. |
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Griffy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-05-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
181. All Wrong.. Gravity is just a theory ... so what does anyone know! |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-09-05 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
194. The firemen were reporting that they had the fire under control |
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