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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:57 PM
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Security, Colorado
Any news from the Nato drills,that went on near Security, Colorado, this week?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:09 PM
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1. Not Much
I work for a major defense contractor in COlorado Springs, and they didn't release much information. Just that they acted out a few scenarios and bullshitted.

Donald Rumsfeld provided the lion's share of the bullshit.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:47 PM
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2. There were
some majorly pissed off coloradons on the radio today. All kinds of complaints about garage doors not working. Residents of Lake ave. were forcibly relocated (to hotels?). And one guy reported Nato troops running off base road-blocks w/o lpd.+ Major unmarked helicopter activity.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 03:35 PM
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6. update #2
radio edit:NATO TAKES OVER AMERICAN CITY

Reports have been streaming in about this massive NATO exercise, which was nothing more than a giant war game on US soil. Reports include troops in Colorado Springs, multiple checkpoints and bizarre electrical airwave problems. Here's a collection of articles on the event.

(note the checkpoints mentioned in this article, as if that were a normal acceptable thing):SPtranslation; some very pissed US citizens were yanked from their cars by NATO forces

NATO LEADERS ARRIVE IN COLORADO SPRINGS

KRDO 10-05-03

WITH NEARLY A THOUSAND DELEGATES FROM MORE THAN 20 COUNTRIES COMING TO COLORADO SPRINGS THIS WEEK FOR THE NATO CONFERENCE.

ON LAKE AVENUE IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL IS WHERE ONE OF FIVE SECURITY CHECKPOINTS FOR THE NATO EVENT WILL BE.

BUT IT MAY SURPRISE YOU TO KNOW THAT ON THE DAY BEFORE PARTICIPANTS ARRIVE, THE ACTUAL SET-UP HASN'T STARTED YET.

SECURITY EXPERTS SAY THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR THAT.
ULYSESS MIDDLETON IS THE HEAD OF SECURITY."This is low-level. The threat is low."

BUT MIDDLETON SAYS THAT WHILE THE THREAT IS LOW SECURITY NEEDS TO BE HIGH."If left up to security, we would have had it up a week ago. But we're working with the Broadmoor, and they still have customers inside."

THE COLONEL SAYS CHECKPOINTS WILL GO UP EARLY MONDAY MORNING,BE OPERATIONAL BY NOON IN A TWO BLOCK AREA AROUND THE BROADMOOR.

THEY'LL GENERALLY AFFECT PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THE BROADMOOR OR TRAVEL THROUGH ON BUSINESS. EVERYONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO DETOUR.PART OF THE REASON FOR THE NATO CONFERENCE BEING HERE, IS FOR DELEGATES TO TAKE IN THE SIGHTS.
SO WHAT IF THEY PLAN TO VISIT GARDEN OF THE GODS OR THE ZOO, THE SAME DAY THAT YOU DO?
DON'T WORRY.YOU WON'T HAVE TO LEAVE OR WAIT.

YOU CAN ENJOY THE ATTRACTIONS WITH THE DELEGATES AND YOU MAY EVEN GET TO MEET THEM.

CHECKPOINTS SHOULD AFFECT ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA, OR WHO TRAVEL THROUGH ON BUSINESS.

also check here:http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7506057%255E2703,00.html


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Emperor_Norton_II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:09 AM
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9. If NATO took over Colorado Springs...
I say we should let 'em keep it. I spent a year in the Springs one weekend; it was a worthless place then, it remains so today.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 08:51 AM
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3. Is THAT what was going on?
Our little town got buzzed in a BIG way by 5 A-10's, and low.

As in, when I ran outside to see one go overhead, I could count the death strapped under hhis wing. As in, they went down valley and turned east to go behind a mesa that's only 900 feet higher than we are.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-03 09:18 AM
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4. yup
and i heard all the Russian and former east block brass got the big tour of the Crib.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:41 PM
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7. Update on my A-10s....
Found out where they were coming from and what they were up to. Normal (but cool) training routine, diverted into my valley due to thunderstorms.

Nothing sinister, and nothing to do with the NATO conference (why keep calling it a "drill"?) ... meetings were all over by then anyhow, as it turns out.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 03:23 PM
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5. update
Airwave glitch hits Springs area
Garage-door openers jammed, hundreds say



Denver Post 10/13/03

COLORADO SPRINGS - Next time NATO officials say they're doing a lockdown, the folks in the luxury Broadmoor neighborhood will take them seriously.
Very seriously.
Last week, NATO workers erected security and communications towers in the area in advance of this week's defense ministers' conference.
By 9 a.m. Friday morning, all 10 lines at Overhead Door Company of Colorado Springs were lit up with calls from the Broadmoor and the nearby town of Security complaining that their garage- door openers had jammed.
More than 400 calls from frantic, frustrated and flustered residents came on that day alone. They haven't stopped since, said the company's receptionist, Tina Oetken.
Coincidence?
Oetken and her bosses don't think so.

"With over 600-plus calls, it's hard to believe that it can be anything but" NATO, Oetken said Wednesday.

Garage-door transmitters work on radio frequencies. NATO also needs radio frequencies but insists it isn't poaching off the frequencies that signal remote-controlled garage-door openers.
"We've double-checked our system, and there's no technical reason that we should be causing the problem," said Army Lt. Col. Gary Keck, a Pentagon spokesman.
Keck apologized if anyone was inconvenienced but said the additional security is for everyone in the Broadmoor and not just those attending the meeting.
Oetken said some of her customers were even locked out of their houses because their computer keypads jammed.
Other residents, like Debbie DeYoung, have suffered only intermittent problems.
"Oh, I thought maybe it was the battery," DeYoung said when she learned that many of her neighbors were struggling with their garage-door openers. "My garage door has been wild."
DeYoung isn't alone. A nearby Radio Shack sold out of 12-volt batteries, which are often used for garage-door openers, Friday morning. A new shipment sold out in 90 minutes.
"It was one customer after another asking if we had batteries for garage-door openers," Radio Shack sales associate Janell Fowler said.
Store workers quickly figured out there couldn't possibly be that many dead batteries at once, so they began running tests. With very few exceptions, the batteries were good.
People were still coming in for batteries Wednesday, Fowler said. But now she is ready.
"Now when people come and say, 'I need a battery for my garage-door opener' I say, 'No, you don't.' It has been pretty crazy around here."
Crazy is exactly how Cameron Hayton describes the month of September, but now he's cashing in.
Hayton, the owner of the 3-month-old luxury taxi service Town Cars of Colorado, got a call last month asking him to track down 30 identical Cadillacs for the visiting NATO ministers and deliver them to the Broadmoor within 30 days.
Officials told him they wanted the identical cars to avoid any squabbling, Hayton said. Government officials told him at least one diplomat left a previous conference when he didn't get the color car he wanted, he added.
Hayton tried numerous car dealers and rental car agencies and, like the government, had no luck finding identical cars.
Finally, Hayton called Red Noland Cadillac, which called General Motors. Thirty $46,000 Cadillac DeVilles were made in Michigan specifically to cart the NATO dignitaries around. After the conference winds up today, the bronze- colored cars with chrome wheels will be offered for sale across the Front Range.

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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:26 AM
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8. GAWD
Officials told him they wanted the identical cars to avoid any squabbling, Hayton said. Government officials told him at least one diplomat left a previous conference when he didn't get the color car he wanted, he added.
Airwave glitch hits Springs area
Denver Post 10/13/03

Are THESE the people we are supposed to look up to?
Are these the ones who are "protecting' us all from harm?
Aw heck,
I am going to have to take matters into my own hands.....

PAGING Inspector Clouseau
IMPORTANT CALL for Inspector Clouseau
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