911pi.com now definitively dead?

[gandalf]

The site "The People s Investigation" is a 9/11-related discussion forums with sometimes very interesting discussions.

Some months ago, it was down for about one week. Now it is down again, but since two weeks or so, without any prior announcement. Does anybody know something about the reasons? Or is Mark Nemeth not interested any longer in maintaining his site?
That would be a pity.

[CaptainMidnight]

1. disinformation

I detected a lot of DISINFORMATION there, so good riddance.

Many times the CIA, the Govt, FBI, whatever, much in the tradition of COINTELPRO, will set up sites and groups that purport to seek the truth alongside us, when in fact, they are really set up to mislead us or to divide us.

There was some bullshit there about the day of 9-11, NORAD was supposedly conducting some sorta emergency drill, and that's why no planes were scrambled, "they thought it was just a drill."

When I read that at 911pi.com, I knew that the site was bullshit.

Captain Mike

[CaptainClark23]

11. There was an exercise

Vigilant Guardian.

[Dancing_Dave]

2. I miss 911pi

At any public 911 forum including this one there are some paid "disinfo agents", or at least paid PR flacks who make misleading statements about themselves and try to discredit all sceptics of the official myth with prejudicial remarks. 911pi had two of 'em working in the time I was aware of.

But there was also some very good research I didn't find anywhere else. Who arranged and arranged to profit from the WTC set-up in NYC? Anyone who's done a bit of real studying on this has heard of Larry Silverstein with his lucky insurance policies and President Bush's brother Marvin who set up the access security for the WTC before it was totalled out. But an NYC accountant who posted an 911pi found that the mafiosio and friend of Karl Rove(!) Paul Gargano at the top of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey was the central NYC buisness and political figure in the set-up...and through Eagle Building and other 911 related scams, probably the guy who made the most money fastest off the 9/11 disaster which took out a previously unprofitable Port Authority property, the WTC!

When someone asked Karl Rove what he was talking to Paul Gargano about, he said, "remember Carl Sagan? Billions and Billions..."

[CaptainMidnight]

3. whoa

links for all that stuff?

I didn't hear about that Rove and PA stuff.

Yeah, not many sites entirely "pure" in their content. I try to disseminate. Ruppert's always good. He doesn't even wanna touch the "no Pentagon plane" thing. I've been back and forth on that, but ultimately, I think that issues' disinformation designed to take our minds of the real whole truth of 9-11.

CM

[Abe Linkman]

4. Maybe it's just the opposite, Captain

Maybe
"the real whole truth of 9-11" SEARCH is disinformation designed to take our minds off the strange case of the Pentagon attacks.

[Dancing_Dave]

5. Unfortunately, without the site I don't know a link

However, I think the NYC accountant who put together that key part of the story wouldn't mind me saying here that his real name is Jamie Peppard, and he's gotten interesting discussions with informed people going at the New York chat site Abuzz...but unfortunately that site is not at all easy to search or find lasting links to. I think Jamie is mainly just using it to pick up a few more needed clues from some people who might know unreported details. Jamie's looking for a writer able to help him write it up in a way that might be published in the Village Voice or something like that. A writer who knows a bit more inside info on NYC now than me!

Mike Ruppert is good as far as he goes, but if he doesn't feel especiallly competent to comment on something, he just leaves it out. So far I haven't seen him publish anything from all the scientific studies showing that official accounts of what happened to the WTC and the Pentagon don't add up at all, they CAN'T be right. But then what really did happen? That's much more mysterious...missing planes and impossible collapses...I guess this looks like a can of worms to Ruppert, and he's not going to open it until something becomes more clear.

For all the stuff that Ruppert leaves out because he isn't sure what it means, check out http://www.911review.org/ It's clearly organized new site concentrating mainly on the science and engineering issues, but with some good connections to more political and historically oriented research (including Ruppert).
:think: :toast:

[CaptainMidnight]

6. Ruppert doesn't "go there"

He told me that to my face.

What with ALL the 9-11 Evidence that CAN BE PROVEN, he considers the Pentagon stuff and WTC Demolition to be "journalistic suicide." There may indeed be something there, but since the evidence has been destroyed, what's the point? From this point on, barring an incredibly high up and proven "Deep Throat," ALL the evidence we're gonna have on the Pentagon has already been culled and poured over. The materials, the crash site, are "gone."

Besides, Ruppert's been wrongly criticized and villified enough, especially by those on the so-called Left like David Corn, with all the PROVEN evidence that he DOES HAVE. He still takes flak even here at DU. So why go on about stuff you'll NEVER prove?

That said, I DO believe the WTC was some sorta controlled demolition, probably commandeered and controlled from WTC #7, from Giuliani's supposed "terrorist command center," which then conveniently fell down later that day. WTC #7 was sorta the "Oswald" of the WTC destruction that day. The "means" of the assassination, and then itself taken out to eliminate the evidence of the plot.

Captain Mike

[Dancing_Dave]

7. I bet Ruppert will "go there" as the evidence and connections become clear

Ruppert's friend Mike Chossudovsky used to avoid such issues, but now check out Chossudovsky's Global Research site:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/

Right near the top of the page are links to great slide show summeries of the scientific arguments against the official story of what happened to the WTC:http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/towers/

and the Pentagon: http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/

More and more scientists now instantly recognize the official B.S. propaganda wherever it turns up, for instance I just got this little message:

From: Shiu M. Hung

Yesterday there was a one hour special on 9/11 in the
afternoon on PBS, and the emphasis was on the WTC.
I heard the commentator said 'the overabundance of
paper inside the WTC' contributed to the melting
of the twin tower central column, could this be part of their
constant changing of the 9/11 legend on physical evidence?
The commentary's explaination and the timeline he gave to the
entire attack was very, very shallow and glib -- full of contradictions
and it just doens't hold up under close scrutiny. Nothing on Building
#7 was mentioned as if it never existed.

Shiu

:think:
Looks like the official myths days are numbered!
Dancin' Dave

[RH]

9. You bet

what?

[gandalf]

8. And you did not happen to save the articles on your computer?

I did that with some discussion threads on this site, but not with these (Gargano et al.).

If you have, perhaps you could post some of it here.

[Dancing_Dave]

10. Unfortunately, no

But I am in touch with the author, who is continuing his research in New York. I'll forward links to publications which come out of it as they appear. Soemthing may come out from the Village Voice pretty soon...

[gandalf]

12. Definitively Dead!

The domain 911pi.com does not longer exist (it did, however, some days ago). That means that The People's Investigation will indeed never come back.

[UrbScotty]

13. Try this

http://www.communitycurrency.org/pi.html

[CaptainClark23]

14. Mirror Site is now back up

www.pi911.com

but its crawling like a sumbitch...not sure if its DOS attacks or just a lowband ISP.

But its there.

[gandalf]

16. Thanks for the link. But ...

has this site access to the material posted on the original 911pi site? Seemingly not.

[graphixtech]

15. NEW 9-11 Action website-

TONS of resources for citizens concerned about this issue:
www.septembereleventh.org

The 9-11 Commission expires in May, so pressure needs applied NOW!