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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:56 PM
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Phantom Flight 11: Generals Eberhart, Arnold lying under oath

The 9/11 Commission notes in its typical nonchalance (page 34):

In public testimony before this Commission in May 2003, NORAD officials stated that at 9:16, NEADS received hijack notification of United 93 from the FAA. This statement was incorrect. There was no hijack to report at 9:16. United 93 was proceeding normally at that time.

In this same public testimony, NORAD officials stated that at 9:24, NEADS received notification of the hijacking of American 77. This statement was also incorrect. The notice NEADS received at 9:24 was that American 11 had not hit the World Trade Center and was heading for Washington.


So the NORAD officials were lying, weren't they?

Let's take a quick a look at their statement to achieve a better judgement:


MR. BEN-VENISTE: Now, 15 minutes later, at 9:25, the FAA notified NORAD, according to this statement, that Flight 77 was headed toward Washington. Was that the first notification, 9:25, that NORAD or DOD had that Flight 77 was probably hijacked? And, if it was, do you know why it took 15 minutes for FAA to notify NORAD? General Eberhardt said, "Sir, there's one minor difference: I saw it as 9:24, which you do as well, that we were notified, and that's the first notification we received." "Do you know if that was the first notification to DOD?" "Yes, sir, that's the first documented notification that we received."

I think you was involved in the phone bridge, General Eberhart!? Have you not been aware of the Phantom Flight 11?

GEN. ARNOLD: Thank you. The simple answer to your question is I believe that to be a fact: that 9:24 was the first time that we had been advised of American 77 as a possible hijacked airplane.

I think you was involved in the phone bridge, General Arnold!? Have you not been aware of the Phantom Flight 11?

http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing2/9-11Commission_Hearing_2003-05-23.htm


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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:48 PM
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1. Original FAA/NORAD Time Line for Fl 77 & analysis:
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 10:56 PM by philb
Fl 77 Pentagon Boeing 757
Original FAA/NORAD Time Line

8:20 AM Takeoff from Dulles Airport, D.C.
8:25 FAA notified all Regional FAA offices of Flight 11 hijacking
8:25 bridge call between FAA, NMCC, DOT, DOD, etc. started by NMCC as significant incident conference when Fl 11 hijacking reported and later upgraded to air threat conference dealing with all “planes of interest”
8:42 FAA confirmed radio and transponder off on Flight 175
8:43 FAA notifies NORAD that a second plane appears to be hijacked and has turned towards N Y
8:46 NEADS(NORAD) scrambles 2 jets from Otis AFB to N Y
8:46 FAA notes FL 77 significantly off course; this is supported by USA Today published flight course time line
8:47 WTC1 hit by airplane;
8:50 bridge call between FAA, DOD, DOT, NORAD, NMCC re: “all planes of interest”
8:55 a plane assumed to be Fl 77 seen on FAA radar heading east over West Virginia: Senator Levin during testimony of Gen. Ralph Eberhart, commander of NORAD, before the Senate Armed Services Committee on October 25
(but Fl 11, 175, and 77 crossed paths and there was extreme confusion among the Airlines, authorities, Media as late as 2:00 PM as to what happened to the planes and which might have hit which target)

8:56 transponder off on Fl 77 and plane turned around over NE Kentucky
8:57 report by FAA that Fl 77 crashed or landed near Kentucky/Ohio border/ lost on radar
9:03 a plane hits WTC2; notification sent out by FAA
9:04 FAA closes down all air traffic takeoffs in Northeastern U.S.
9:24 FAA contacts NORAD and says Fl 77 heading towards D.C.
9:25 NORAD scrambles jets from Langley AFB heading to D.C.
9:30 jets in the air heading to D.C. (130 mile trip, 5 minute trip at 30 miles per minute)
9:38 something hits the Pentagon, jets reported to be off course and still 105 miles away

more details and documentation of official complicity:
http://www.flcv.com/offcom77.html
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:03 PM
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2. Notice jets from Otis & Langley AFB were scrambled and either appear
to have had time to intercept the plane that hit the Pentagon, but neither seem to have been directed to by "authorities" such as Cheney and NORAD who are documented to have been monitoring the flight on radar as it approached.

Also, clearly, the National Guard jets at Andrews could have intercepted the plane if they had been asked to do so.

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:16 PM
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3. Note also that Andrews had interceptors out on training mission
that could have easily gotten back in time to intercept the plane, or set up a protective screen over D.C.




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