Latest timeline entries on wargames - I think 9/11 has been solved!

[JackRiddler]

Just read this:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=militaryExercises

The command center for Global Guardian, the master wargame that apparently incorporated Vigilant Guardian, Northern Guardian, Vigilant Warrior and the rest, was at Offut Air Force Base. The head honcho, Admiral Mies, was with Buffet and the business leaders at the charity breakfast, until he decided it was time to bid adieu and check on things. This was AFTER the second crash, at which point I guess he figured primary mission was already accomplished and he couldn't pretend he didn't know some kind of emergency was up.

As we know, Offut is where Bush flew after he dragged himself away from "The Pet Goat." The years of planning leading up to the exercises on the day clearly incorporated hijacking and domestic "armaggedon" scenarios. There is even a record that the 9/11 scenario was rehearsed on actual passenger planes with actors and FBI guys playing the roles of hijackers, passengers and crew (which based on what we know is likely to be what one or more of the 9/11 flights were also doing).

All this is what we've known or suspected all along, but I've never seen it so beautifully hashed out in detail with this much backing in mainstream sources. Amazing work from Paul Thompson and the CCR crew. (It's not Credence Clearwater Revival, but it sure rocks!)

At least one false blip or live-fly distraction has been confirmed as still confusing response three minutes AFTER the initial question of "live fly or exercise", putting the lie to Eberhard's cheap excuses in the 9/11 Commission Report. (Newhouse News article on NEADS of 1/25/02.) Of course, there is also the matter of "Phantom 11" and the "up to eleven" suspected hijackings or unknown blips we already have heard so much about, including in the Kean Commission's fraudulent report.

Sorry if all this should read rather esoteric to anybody - just read this timeline and be amazed, it's all laid out like no one's managed before, not Ruppert or Tarpley or Ahmed, not my own piece in the Spitzer complaint:

http://justicefor911.org/iiA1_AirDefense_111904.php

Paul, one thing I'd like to point out, which I worked into the Spitzer complaint: the idea that "Vigilant Warrior" is simply Clarke's mistake is implausible. First of all, no one in the government is more precise or knowledgable than Clarke, even when he's lying through his teeth. The book was delayed for months while the White House and CIA went through it. The key sentence on Vigilant Warrior is followed by an ellipsus, indicating a redaction. You can bet it was one of, if not the most scrutinized passage in the book. It is followed by Clarke's unusual step of saying that he looked at his watch and specifying that the time was 9:28 a.m. This gives a precise time that further torpedoes the excuses that the wargames did not directly interfere in the events of the day. I can't help but think Clarke's intent was to leave Myers hanging in the wind.

READ IT NOW:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=militaryExercises

[pox americana]

1. Looks like Condi didn't get the memo.

Ten years of 9/11-style wargames and the National Security Advisor testifies under oath that nobody ever imagined such a thing.

Gotta love that Bush team spirit.

[janedoe]

2. Did you see my post?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=49199&mesg_id=49349

[JackRiddler]

8. yes of course

This was what prompted me to devote an independent thread to this vital matter. Can you maybe re-post your post again here, since I don't know how to do all that cool formatting?

[janedoe]

18. Folks can get to it via that link.

You are right. 9/11 has been solved. At least the Muslims in the rest of the world are convinced. So, what is going on? Why are there three different articles springing up on this, today?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=49199&mesg_id=49385

[Old and In the Way]

3. Well, well....isn't that another "coincidence.

Next thing we'll hear is 93, 175,77, and 11 were part of the exercise.

I wonder if the 9/11 Commission asked about this? Never mind, I know the answer.

[philb]

4. Thought everyone knew Flight 11 was part of the exercise

See physical evidence part of:

http://www.flcv.com/offcom11.html

[janedoe]

7. -- just a coincidence (n/t)

[dbeach]

5. concidences seem to be the way nowadays..

any bets on arrest date for poppy o ???..the real power behind the throne..don't be fooled by the cheap imitation brands like dickie or rover

[StrafingMoose]

9. None of the 9/11Comm. panelists had intelligence/investigative background.

What do you expect? :P

[janedoe]

12. Did any of them have a background in physics or engineering

...or even some kind of physical science?
It is my understanding that they were all "politicians" and/or "lawyers."

[StrafingMoose]

13. I don't know...

But they didn't analyse much of the physical evidences. At most, they mentionned FEMA reports and stuff like that if I'm not wrong.

But forensic evidence analysis wasn't their mandate (accountability neither), their excuse was that it was an "inteligence failure". So I guess their mandate was to analyse those intelligence failures, even though they don't have this background. Great. :sarcasm:

[HughBeaumont]

16. All I know is that some of them,

particularly Kean, Hamilton, Zelikow and Lehman, are either heavily connected with the Shrub Blight House or Big Oil in some way. Kind of makes one wonder if there wasn't just a BIT of under-rug-sweeping intended here.

[petgoat]

32. Thomas Kean had Ties to Khalid bin Mahfouz, a suspected

terrorist financier. Bin Mahfouz had been 20% owner of BCCI, a
money-laundering bank that came down in 1991. Bin Mahfouz paid the
state of NY $225 to make an indictment go away.

(A sometime director of BCCI was James R. Bath, a TANG buddy of W's
who also failed to take a physical. Bath handled the Texas investments
of Salem bin Laden, and invested in W's Arbusto Energy. Khalid bin
Mahfouz owned part of the successor company, Harken Energy.)

Lee Hamilton of the 9/11 Commission had chaired the House investigation
into the October Surprise matter (which was a coverup) and co-chaired
the House investigation into the Iran-Contra scandal (which was a
coverup).

Executive Director Philip Zelikow actually appeared as a witness in the
Commission he was directing! He had worked with Condi Rice when he was
on the NSC under poppy Bush, and even co-wrote a book with her.

Lehman was Navy Secretary under Reagan.

As to the rug-sweeping, the alleged involvement of the FBI in the 1993
WTC bombing plot and the alleged Iraqi involvement in the OK City
bombing are hinky enough to suggest that the Dems agreed to go easy on
Bush if the Repubs would go easy on Clinton.

[philb]

6. So we know everyone was aware of airline hijack threats and

on 9/11 after there were numerous substantial warnings that an attack was planned for the week of 9/11, the Pentagon/military had most of their people/planes involved in simulated 9/11 type war games at the same time as the actual 9/11 events were to happen.

So what is the case that you say this makes?

Its clear there were lots of credible, relatively explicit warnings of an attack for Fall 01 and the week of Sept 01; and that someone decided to occupy most of the military/defense establish on 9/11 in war game exercises.

But does that in and of itself prove complicity sufficiently to make a convincing case. I think it only adds to an already established case.

(note also: FAA had issued several warnings to the airlines just prior to 9/11)

[JackRiddler]

27. read it carefully and consider...

The wargames (at least according to those of us who argue for their importance) are the means by which the standdown operation was executed, despite needing so many people to unwittingly collaborate in order for it to work. The wargames are a way of allowing the attacks (which presumably were assisted directly by a faction who knew about the wargames) and covering up later (by giving people a reason to stay quiet, our secrets were compromised so you must shut up, etc.)

[StrafingMoose]

10. Incredible..

That destroys totaly their argument that they could have never envisioned such a scenario, PLUS it gives some people knowledge of the "cracks" and "weaknesses" in their emergency response plans so they can be exploited for another, unsavory plan.

[spooked911]

11. WHAT EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO KNOW!!!

I have long thought that these exercises were an easy to understand key to 9/11 and if nothing selse completely destroy the government's claim that they never anticipated multiuple hijackings and planes crashing into buildings.

After reading Ruppert's chapters on the wargames in "Crossing the Rubicon" about a year ago, I thought about producing flyers on this subject to distribute around my neighborhood, but I lamed out. Maybe I should rethink this!

[janedoe]

14. The people were told ...before the media spun it around.

Barbara Boxer went after Condi Rice at her confirmation hearing, like an attack dog going in for the kill. Boxer called Rice a liar, over and over again. Then the media went into full spin and presented Barbara Boxer as an out-of-control crazy person. Saturday Night Live even did a spoof on that event with "Boxer" looking like the mad scientist.

That event had a big impact on me. It was clear that Boxer knew what was going on. I believe everyone in that room knew what was going on. The media helped to cover the evidence.

[spooked911]

17. Yes, you're right-- I became a big Boxer fan after that

plus with her protes ton the Presidential vote-- she's a hero in my book.

The media is totally complicit in this sickening scam of 9/11...

[janedoe]

19. The plot thickens, Condi - Rove connection

I've not read this article, yet, but it looks good and is presented as a timeline.

http://www.counterpunch.com/morris07272005.html

[spooked911]

22. I suspect Rice is guilty as hell in all of this-- including 9/11--

but everyone seems scared of going after her (save Boxer).

Interesting article, thanks.

p.s. I see you're getting as much work done today as I am :)

[janedoe]

23. Daschle was tossed for wanting a "real" 911 investigation

Casualties for 9-11 questions: Daschle, McKinney (Next will be Mark Dayton) It's pretty cool that Boxer hasn't been "glitched" out. (Likely an oversight, I'm sure. )

p.s. Guilty as charged. But, I'm about to get a thesis to go through for (what better be) the last time.

[petgoat]

20. Barbara Boxer went after Condi

I didn't know that and I'm glad to hear it. I was very disappointed in
Condi's easy confirmation.

"everyone in that room knew what was going on."

Mike Ruppert says that a number of members of Congress subscribe to his
newsletter, and that some have indicated to him that they believe that
Paul Wellstone was asassinated.

[janedoe]

21. Here's a link to the video

The information is there (9-11, and that they knew there were no WMD to find), but it's very subtle. Condi brings up 911 ...and WMD ...and whatever she needs for rationalization.

Note: the Boxer part is in part-2, which begins playing automatically when you get to the end of part-1. i.e. After part-1 begins, you may want to slide the progress bar to near the end of part-1, and then wait for it to flip over. Part-2 is about 13 minutes, total.
_____________________________________________
I located the video. rtsp://video.c-span.org/smil/c04011805_rice.smi

If that doesn't work, go to the following page, and you'll see the confirmation-hearing link on the right side of the page.

http://thankyoupatriot.com/audvid.htm
_____________________________________________

[Kevin Fenton]

25. Denials

Most of the denials I saw were fairly specific and referred to multiple aircraft hijacked out of US airports and crashed into buildings, sometimes even specific buildings are given.

For example:
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon". Obviously, this paricular statement does not cover the case where somebody slams one aircraft into the WTC and then second into that generic Greek revival mansion on Penn. Avenue.

In general, it seems that it was expected by the powers that be that such attack (if it ever came) would have originated abroad (as did the failed one on the Eiffel Tower in the mid 1990s) and would not have involved 5+ planes.

[petgoat]

28. " expected...attack...would have originated abroad...not...5+ planes"

"Russian President Vladimir Putin has said publicly that he ordered his
intelligence agencies to alert the United States last summer that
suicide pilots were training for attacks on U.S. targets."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53065,00.html

Project Bojinka involved the simultaneous bombing of 11 US-bound
aircraft, and crashing a plane into CIA HQ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Bojinka

[philb]

34. There were lots of explicit warnings of hijacking U.S. planes to attack WT

WTC, Pentagon, etc.

Starting with Yousif's computer disk of Operation Bojinka, involved in 93 WTC Bombing, that explicitly talked of plans to use hijacked airliners to hit WTC, Pentagon, etc. There were a lot of such warnings just prior to 9/11 from lots of credible sources. And the FAA/Administration warned the Airlines to expect such over 10 times just prior to 9/11. In addition to the many war game scenarios of these events prior to 9/11. Its clear they were expecting such, and had multiple clear warnings of such. And there were warnings of expected attacks during the week of 9/11.

http://www.flcv.com/warnings.html

[petgoat]

35. German Newspapers Say the Mossad Warned of 19 Terrorists

in the United States, and named at least four names, all of them alleged
9/11 hijackers including Mohammed Atta.

Nafeez Ahmed said on CSPAN that David Schippers's warnings nameed
Mohammed Atta.

[petgoat]

33. "I thought about producing flyers.... but I lamed out."

Be the media. Check out WinterPatriot's "Whispering Campaign"

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Winter_Patriot_Blog_seeks_to_bring_news_to_public__0722.html

I'd suggest shirt-pocket-sized booklets instead of fliers. Fliers blow
in the wind and become litter. Fliers have a lot of words on them.
Fliers demand an immediate decision--I'm going to read this or I'm not.
A booklet can be intriguing on its first page and yield the decision:
"Looks interesting. I'll tuck this in my pocket or purse and read it
later." A booklet has a greater perceived value than a flier, though
its direct production costs aren't greater, just the labor to cut and
fold and staple them.

[reprehensor]

15. Amazing.

Now are they going to release the Pentagon crash video tapes?

Is there enough Kool-Aid in the universe to keep the Ommission Commission afloat?

[Kevin Fenton]

24. Clarke's memory

"the idea that "Vigilant Warrior" is simply Clarke's mistake is implausible. First of all, no one in the government is more precise or knowledgable than Clarke,"

Clarke says in the preface and the epilogue that it is "my story, from my memory." Why can't he just have remembered something wrong?

[JackRiddler]

26. as I say...

the book was held up for months pending redactions by CIA and White House, which would logically be the reason for so many ellipsi. It's hard to believe they let a false operation name through attributed to Myers. Again, this is the sentence that was probably the most scrutinized in the book.

[Kevin Fenton]

29. Political reasons

It's not really a false operation name, more a combining of two operation names into one - a misleading operation name. I don't see why the redactions would be to protect Myers, surely the stated reasons for them are to protect national security - which means keeping secret stuff secret. The exercises weren't secret, so why bother with them? Obviously, I suspect that there was an attempt to influence the book for political reasons, but this should really relate to what Clarke has to say about Iraq, etc., rather than an obscure (to the public) exercise.

I don't understand your point about the redactions, is there a reason they should all have been made by the CIA and White House or could they have been made by Clarke himself?

[JackRiddler]

30. This is mainstream press

Fact is, the book as initially written by Clarke was submitted for security clearance in late 2003 and held up until publication in April 2004 (coinciding with Clarke's testimony; the timing of the latter however was the Commission's decision).

The MSM news at that time mentioned that the CIA and WH were checking the book for security redactions. Of course the already-run wargames are not really a question of national security, but fact is, government agencies get to decide what to keep secret and it's very hard to get around it.

There are no redactions marked as such in the book, rather a wealth of ellipsi. My presumption is that these indicate redactions, obviously not by Clarke (who would have submitted a complete book) but by his censors.

The sentence in which Clarke quotes Myers (using quotation marks!) as mentioning "Vigilant Warrior" is followed directly by an ellipsus. My presumption is that this sentence would have been checked with Myers himself, otherwise the censors are not doing their "job" (which, again, took months).

To settle this, it's pointless to post and counter-post here. We should all be calling for a real 9/11 investigation (preferably in an independent court holding open proceedings with full investigative powers) that's going to subpoena Clarke, Myers, Mies, Eberhard, Leidig, Winfield, Rumsfeld, Cheney and a whole bunch of lower-downs to clarify the matter of the 9/11 wargames.

Did the wargames involve domestic commercial jet hijacking and shoot-down scenarios, as had already been planned for Amalgam Virgo in 2002? Were there live-fly aircraft playing the role of unknowns in the Northeastern sector? Was there a "red team" (warrior) and a "blue team" (guardian). Did the wargames cause false blips (whether due to live-fly objects or injects) unidentifiable to the FAA and NEADS for any period during the "real" hijackings? Do the wargames explain "Phantom 11" (from the Commission Report) and the confusion of the false blip/live fly heading for JFK at the same time as AA 11 was heading south (as in NEADS Dawne Deskins' statement to Newhouse News, 1/25/02)? Were any of the 9/11 crash flights supposed to be involved in the wargames? When were the wargames terminated and the screens cleared?

The termination of the wargames and screens clearing supposedly took only 30 secs., according to Eberhart in the Commission's throwaway footnote, but if it happened after two towers were already hit, then the main damage had already been done. All the evidence (including the new revelation that Mies stayed at the charity breakfast until after 9:03) suggests the clearing happened only after the second plane crash. Not only is is this very late, but it would leave much residual unease and confusion, such that no one, for example, would really want to order a shootdown of that thing heading for the Pentagon. This would also explain the famous "Do the orders still stand?" question from Mineta's testimony.

[JackRiddler]

31. kicker

[Generator]

36. Most damning evidence

Always has been to me. For one that said originally, "I'm never gonna believe our government had anything to do with it" to now. The lack of air defense. The changing stories. FAA taking all the blame. Destroying tapes. The speed that they flew-half of top speed. Then the war games. Every time I would read something new-whoa. Just read Crossing the Rubicon-the war games stuff is the part that they hang by. I just wish he or someone had an idea-what are the odds, ie, how many times a year do they have war games? That many at one time? The planes routed to be out of the northern defense area? Is that once a month, once a year, NEVER before? If we had that answer..conicendence becomes impossible which we already know..if they were clean the questions would be answered.

Still it rings out to me. They flew at half the top speed. What accounts for that? There is no excuse for that. Sorry, but maybe they didn't know what they were doing, and if not, why? Ahh..it's not real. It's not an attack. As Michael Ruppert says it's the only thing that makes sense. They aren't traitors in the air force..but somewhere high up they most defintely are.

[JackRiddler]

37. late kick for Paul

[JackRiddler]

38. second kick for Paul