Alex Jones' Interview: Ex-Senior Advisor to Dole: 9/11 was Ordered by Bush

[lady lib]

Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers' lawsuit
Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription by 'RatCat'

Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to get this information out to people.

"This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton

Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers' lawsuit

Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know these people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject - how to turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the planning at least 35 years.

~snip~

SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc., that other officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal with the fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the first plane hit the first building on the video. And that's not possible because there was no official video of that. There was one of the second plane not the first one. He had seen the first one. We do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on tape that he was there the night before - September 10th, that is

AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission, admitted that - Tripod II. They had their whole command post already moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a key area of this whole event. You said months before it came out on the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed people. They said there were drills that morning and exactly what happened, happening - that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that morning. Now, we've learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these - one drill with the exact same thing happening that actually happened, at the exact same time in the morning. That's why NORAD stood down with 24 different blips on the screen. You've said this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you can't get too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned of this?

SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked for Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills over at least two months before September 11th. Everything was planned, the exact location

~MORE~

LINK
http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm

Sorry this interview is almost a year old, but it's so amazing that I had to post it. Does anyone know the status of this lawsuit? Thanks ahead of time for all your comments!

[more_pain_please]

1. Sorry to say it's DOA

The lawsuit was dismissed by the judge, looks like it's upto Fitzgerald

[lady lib]

2. Well I'm shocked, just shocked.

Don't even try to revive me. }(

So what do you think of the interview? Seems like if what he's saying is the truth, it's mind-blowing.

[petgoat]

3. Hilton Lawsuit Dismissed, Appeal Status Unknown

Jeff Wells says:

Stanley Hilton's $7 billion federal class action lawsuit against the Bush Administration for its complicity in the attacks has been thrown out. While I've been, and remain, skeptical of Hilton and his motives, it's interesting to note the ruling was based on the "Doctrine of Sovereign Immunity". "In other words, the suit was not dismissed because of lack of evidence, but rather because the judge reasoned that U.S. Citizens do not have the right to hold a sitting President accountable for anything, even if the charges include premeditated mass murder and premeditated acts of high treason."

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/01/911-in-courts-sort-of-almost_19.html

When the sex harassment lawsuit on Clinton went forward on the
principle that not even the President is above the law, I don't know
how they can support this decision.

Last I heard, Hilton was planning an appeal, but last I heard there
was a hearing in May, and I never heard anything about it.

[lady lib]

4. So "Doctrine of Sovereign Immunity" Equals Carte Blanche?

That's ridiculous.

Good information, Thanks!


Edit: Didn't like my wording before, so I changed it.

[Klimmer]

5. Amazing interview, and here is more on the case . . .

http://www.suetheterrorists.net/page3.html

"Update 2/21/05

There is a hearing scheduled for May 2nd, in which Stanley will give testimony and present evidence in an effort to convince the court that Judge Illston's dismissal of US Taxpayers, et al. Vs. Bush, et al. should be reversed. The processing of the current appeal will drag on for months, possibly a year or more. Of course, if the Judge Illston's decision is reversed, the Bush Administration will probably file an appeal to reverse the Ninth Circuit's reversal of Illston's ruling. This could drag on for years, quite conceivably. We could even wind up in the Supreme Court, where the odds of success would be very doubtful.

No new plaintiffs can be added during the appeal process.

- Abel Ashes (Hull Simmons)"


So May 2nd appeal was dismissed? It indicates that it can take months and possibly a year or more.

I find his story credible since he isn't a nut-case: he was in college with these neo-cons, former chief of staff for Bob Dole, and he's a practicing attorney in San Francisco. It seems he/we have more than enough evidence, testimony, eye-witnesses, and many who will come forward if subpoenaed to testify. But it doesn't seem like the neo-cons will ever let the truth see the light of day in a court of law. And if it begins to, then they will really get desperate and God knows what they will do then. Ever see a rat cornered? Only this time the rats have WMD and they have already proven what they are more than capable of using them against their own citizens.

I do not know law, but if our corrupt government will never allow 9-11 and those responsible for it to face justice in a federal court of law or the Supreme Court, then maybe justice can be done in an international court of law regarding 9-11 and those responsible. Obviously, Bush et al would denounce it, but the world can judge them guilty even then, and that would be an incredibly powerful, and a very bold statement. Putting them in prison would be another matter. And of course we would go through much more (made-up) terror hell to get there. But the world waking-up and everyone knowing these criminals in our government are the real terrorists would be worth it. Their psychological strong arm over the world would vanish, and we would all know. Knowing the truth by the billions, the psychological fear over us would vanish. Yes, true they could still kill us all, but knowing who your enemy is, is truly empowering. They can kill you but they can't take your soul or spirit.

Stanley Hilton is an American hero and a very brave soul. The more he tells, and the more copies he makes of all his findings and sends them to trusted sources, the safer he is. That is what everyone who knows the truth on the inside should do. Make multiple copies of everything and distribute to trusted sources and make a notarized statement that you will not ever commit suicide and your intention is to live as long, and as healthy of a life as possible.

All about Stanley Hilton:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Hilton

[lady lib]

9. That wikipedia article heavily references

the Alex Jones' interview. That tells me the author found the interview credible enough to use as a source.

[StrafingMoose]

6. Mike Ruppert's word on Stanley Hilton

If you're interested. These are from email I fetched from Google (oilempire.us) sent from Ruppert. There's no way I can tell if they are really from him as I couldn't find them on FTW's site.

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WARNING FROM MIKE RUPPERT
Posted By: BarbaraHartwell <Send E-Mail>
Date: Friday, 14 March 2003, 9:25 a.m. Barbara Hartwell
Legal Defense and Research Fund
PO Box 832
Woodstock NY 12498
Website: http://www.barbarahartwell.com
Note from Babs:
I received this message from Mike Ruppert and thought I'd pass it on. I tend to agree with what Mike is saying here ( especially re Alex Jones) and I trust his judgment, as Mike has a proven track record of calling a spade a spade and dealing in facts and evidence rather than sensationalism. Mike Ruppert is a professional, not a grandstander like Alex Jones.
Thanks, Mike

A word of warning to all those who are ecstatic and jumping over Stanley Hilton's so-called revelations. He and Jones combined are extremely dangerous. Recently, Jones wrote a piece on Patriot II that was full of fabrications and shameless distortions. Jones even fabricated a section of bill S22 that he said was going to call for the mandatory registration of all firearms in the country. The bill actually contained a specific provision prohibiting that.
His interview with Hilton was full of just as many distortions and I have never trusted or accepted Honneger's modified-limited hangout and I have proven it to be false in my upcoming book, "Crossing the Rubicon." The reason is simple: Honneger asserts that the attacks were masked by some 9-11 exercise which prevented officials from knowing of real hijackings. In my book I establish the exact times that FAA knew of the 9-11 hijackings and that they were NOT drills. Then I show the exact breakdowns in proceedure that occurred after it was known that they were real hijackings, after FAA and NORAD knew that the twin towers had been hit and after the White House and Secret Service had issued clear warnings to prevent Flt 93 from reaching Washington. Flt 93 was shot down pursuant to that order.
It is my strong belief that Stanley Hilton is the Daniel Sheehan of the new century and that anyone who allies with him will be as discredited and broke as those who supported the Christic Institute. He has rounded up 400 victim families and he will destroy their case exactly the same way that Sheehan destroyed Martha Honey's and all who were involved in that one. As for Alex Jones I still want to believe that he is just over-energized, careless and sloppy. But even at that he is playing directly into the opposition's hands.
Hilton's discourse was the most unrpofessional dialogue I have ever heard from a lawyer in a public setting. And the man was a close colleague of Bob Dole. Does anyone get the picture?
Read below for just one of his many factual and very serious exaggerations in the radio broadcast. Before allying with someone who insists that "they're coming after white people" I encourage anyone who signs on to this thread to click on the link and listen to the full broadcast for yourselves.
Make up your own minds. If, after that, you still want to align with this nonsense then it's on you and you will deserve what you get for it.

Mike Ruppert
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From: Michael Ruppert
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: Listen to archived interview of attorney Stanley
G. Hilton ...
I listened to this interview very closely.
Mark my words.
Alex Jones is a bit megalomanical and he has been salted with such incredible nuggets of disniformation that he will be destroyed by his own carelesness. He made at least a dozen - small in his mind - factual distortions during broadcast. As one example, McCarthy-like he said he had all these sources about how Judicial Watch people had been threatened with arrest at gunpoint for trying to serve a subpoena on the White House asking why Bush was taking Cipro before the attacks. The actual real story is that Judicial Watch process servers were trying to serve Cheney with a summons on bahlf of the suit filed by Halliburton shareholders and they were denied admittance by guards who happened to be armed. This is a classic Alex Jones screw up! I recently caught and indirectly confronted him over outright fabrications regarding Patriot II.
But Hilton, who was a senior staffer to Bob Dole is far, far worse. He is the reincarnation of Daniel Sheehan who will destroy the lawsuit from the inside. Not only did he pander to pro-white, anti-Semitic overtones, he took the exaggerated points that Jones made and took some even further. His bahvior was unprofessional to say the least just as it was utterly unprofessional when Daniel Sheehan submitted an affidavit listing witnesses who were non-existent or who had been dead for some time.
Mark my words. All of the victim families who put their faith in Hilton are going to be betrayed as badly as the thousands who put their faith in Sheehan. Isn't it strange the Hilton failed to respond to about 50 phone calls from FTW where he would have been asked different questions and yet he was availalble to go on Alex Jones.
The fear-mongering, racially-tinged, "They're coming after white people!", tone of Jones' broadcast made me sick.
MR
Sincerely,

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[Klimmer]

7. I saw that same site with back and forth arguments . . .

between Michael Ruppert and Stanley Hilton.
http://www.oilempire.us/hilton.html

I don't know what to think of it. Even Wikipedia mentions this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Hilton

"Hilton has also feuded with others who allege Bush administration culpability in the events of 9/11, including Michael Ruppert. Others insist Hilton should stop playing games and finally release to the public his purported documents evidencing Bush administration complicity to 9/11 victim family members."

It seems they are after the same truth yet coming to it by different means. Is there some professional jealousy between the two? There shouldn't be considering how incredibly important all this is. Think about it, we are facing the world as we know it, never being the same again (the 60s - 90s were over all pretty good). I long for a more innocent period of time on earth.

[dbeach]

8. Francis Boyle; Univ of Chicago is a "Moral Cesspool"

I see SH as part of truth movement as is ruppert..AJ many others

Truth is a work of art in progress and its often not pretty..

SH knew of the mock classroom exercises to overthrow the US govt and the chicenhawks have misson accomplished..

http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle08022003.html

"My Alma Mater is a Moral Cesspool"
Neo-Cons, Fundies, Feddies and the University of Chicago
By FRANCIS A. BOYLE
Professor of Law, University of Illinois School of Law

"It is now a matter of public record that immediately after the terrible tragedy of September 11, 2001, U.S. Secretary of War Donald Rumsfeld and his pro-Israeli "Neoconservative" Deputy Paul Wolfowitz began to plot, plan, scheme and conspire to wage a war of aggression against Iraq by manipulating the tragic events of September 11th in order to provide a pretext for doing so. Of course Iraq had nothing at all to do with September 11th or supporting Al-Qaeda . But that made no difference to Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and the numerous other pro-Israeli Neo-cons in the Bush Jr. administration.

These pro-Israeli Neo-cons had been schooled in the Machiavellian/Nietzschean theories of Professor Leo Strauss, who taught political philosophy at the University of Chicago in their Department of Political Science. The best expose of Strauss's pernicious theories on law, politics, government, for elitism, and against democracy can be found in two scholarly books by the Canadian Professor Shadia B. Drury: The Political Ideas of Leo Strauss (1988); Leo Strauss and the American Right (1999). I entered the University of Chicago in September of 1968 shortly after Strauss had retired. But I was trained in Chicago's Political Science Department by Strauss's foremost protege, co-author, and literary executor Joseph Cropsey. Based upon my personal experience as an alumnus of Chicago's Political Science Department (A.B., 1971, in Political Science), I concur completely with Professor Drury's devastating critique of Strauss. I also agree with her penetrating analysis of the degradation of the American political process by Chicago's Straussian cabal.

Just recently the University of Chicago officially celebrated its Bush Jr. Straussian cabal, highlighting Wolfowitz Ph.D. '72, Ahmad Chalabi, Ph.D. '69, Abram Shulsky, A.M. '68, Ph.D. '72, Zalmay Khalilzad, Ph.D. '79, together with faculty members Bellow, X '39 and Bloom, A.B. '49, A.M. '53, Ph.D. '55. According to the June 2003 University of Chicago Magazine, Bloom's book "helped popularize Straussian ideals of democracy." It is correct to assert that Bloom's rant helped to popularize Straussian "ideas," but they were blatantly anti-democratic, Machiavellian, Nietzschean, and elitist to begin with. Only the University of Chicago would have the unmitigated Orwellian gall to publicly claim that Strauss and Bloom cared one whit about democracy, let alone comprehended the "ideals of democracy."

Does anyone seriously believe that the Chicago/Strauss/Bloom product Wolfowitz cares one whit about democracy in Iraq? Or the Bush Jr. administration itself, after having stolen the 2000 presidential election from the American People in Florida and before the Republican-controlled U.S. Supreme Court, some of whom were Feddies? Do not send your children to the University of Chicago where they will grow up to become warmongers like Wolfowitz or totalitarians like Ashcroft! Chicago is an intellectual and moral cesspool. "

Francis A. Boyle, Professor of Law, University of Illinois, is author of Foundations of World Order, Duke University Press, The Criminality of Nuclear Deterrence, and Palestine, Palestinians and International Law, by Clarity Press. He can be reached at: [e-mail]

[lady lib]

10. Hilton's senior thesis

was on how to turn the U.S. into a dictatorship. The fact that his senior advisor thought that that was an acceptable topic speaks volumes about the school.

[Lithos]

11. Locking

Rense is not considered an acceptable source for this discussion.

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