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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:54 AM
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Why isn't there more outrage about the 52 FAA warnings before 9/11???
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 01:57 AM by oxbow
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5280

I can't believe I never even heard about this. Granted I wasn't here in February, but I have been every where in the liberal net since then, and this has caused no reverberations that I can see. Why isn't everybody calling for his head on a platter for this? Have we just become so shock-overloaded that we don't notice that this is freaking huge!

And what about this Benfrank.net piece?
http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=299

Are sites like DailyKos, Moveon etc really infiltrated? What's going on here?
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Check12 Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:57 AM
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1. Good Question; see my post
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:00 AM
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2. Yes! 4th Estate gone!
FAA underfunded, etc.

Corporatism is Fascism!
Heil George Bu$h et al!
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:01 AM
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3. Yea I knew about all that, but accordin to these guys, its much much worse
Even websites like Common Dreams and Truth Out are implicated, and that's just scary. It's even made me wonder how much influence such people have here? Goddamn...how could everyone on our side be so quiet about this?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 06:15 AM
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:40 AM
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12. well there are two options
either our side is completely inept and unaware of what's really happening in the world, or their are people keeping this stuff from breaking out. It's pretty simple. Theres no reason why this story shouldn't have been bigger. Why the hell was our side chasing Gannon around while Waxman was doing this? It makes no sense
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:51 AM
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:48 AM
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15. In that case, isn't it time to take it to the streets?
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:01 AM
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4. For those paying attention, it's just one more outrage
for everyone else, it's waay under their radar.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 04:55 AM
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8. yup - DN! and NYT both covered it on Feb 10
It's hard to keep up with these jokers.
A quick search at DN! finds this for Feb 10,
oh look, they also reported "Military Updates War Plan For Iran":

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/10/1545225&mode=thread&tid=25

- New 9/11 Report Shows FAA Ignored Warnings
- Bush Blocked Release Of 9/11 FAA Report Before Election
- U.S. Military Updates War Plan For Iran
- Bush Seeks $400M to Pay Off Iraq War Allies
- Pentagon: Guantanamo Detainees Sexually Humiliated
- FBI Joins LAPD in Investigating Police Killing of 13-Year-Old
- Wal-Mart Closes Store in Canada Preparing to Unionize


New 9/11 Report Shows FAA Ignored Warnings
Bush Blocked Release Of Report Before Election

A previously undisclosed report from the 9/11 commission found that federal aviation officials had received dozens of intelligence reports in the months of the September 11th attacks specifically warning of the threat posed by Al Qaeda. Despite the warnings the FAA did little in response to beef up security. This according to a report in today's New York Times. Up until now the White House had blocked the release of the report that was completed in August - more than two months before the November election. Two weeks ago the Bush administration quietly placed a classified and declassified version in the National Archives. The FAA considered the threat serious enough in the months before Sept. 11 that the agency distributed a CD ROM to airlines and airports that citied the possibility of a suicide hijackings. But the FAA failed to implement security measures that could have stopped the hijackings. Airport screening procedures for weapons were not tightened. And the use of on-flight air marshals was not expanded. One airline official told the 9/11 commission that airlines did not want to give up revenue by providing free seats to air marshals. The report however finds no evidence that the government had specific warning of a domestic attack. Up until Sept. 11 the aviation industry considered the hijacking threat to be more worrisome overseas.

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:13 AM
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5. media blackout = too few people know
Spread the word, I guess. Not sure how.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:20 AM
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6. Perhaps its time to ask Waxman, Conyers to come to Crawford.
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 02:21 AM by oxbow
They can talk about this, DSM and everything else as a whole package of evidence, and this time, America will hopefully be watching. We need to organize our efforts and strike home all at once.

Please keep kicked/nominate if anyone else agrees. Please also contact JC and the other True Dems. It's time to kick this whole movement into high gear.

THE TIDE IS GOING OUR WAY, SO LET'S RIDE IT HOME PEOPLE!!!!!!

<campaign@johnconyers.com>



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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:56 AM
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7. or destruction of all hijacked aircraft cockpit voice tapes ordered by gov
the tapes were ordered destroyed, and by unreeling the tapes and running them through a shredder and mixing them up and dispersing the pieces into numerous trash cans.

why..
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-05 11:07 AM
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18. I hadn't heard this...you have a link?
One session of controller statements was destroyed in the manner you describe because they were taken without union representation (those same controllers were still around and could have been re-interviewed at any time, so the loss of those particular tapes was immaterial).

I hadn't seen anything about cockpit voice tapes.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 10:52 AM
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10. it's BS
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 10:53 AM by WoodrowFan
any site that thinks Kerry deliberatly threw the election to Bush has too many BS warnings to trust..

(FYI, I am not refering to the 52 warnings, I don't know if that's true or not, but to the idea that sites like moveon are somehow part of a government operation.)
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:42 AM
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13. see reply #12
I know this article does not give much evidence to back the claim up, but something is definitely not right here. Theres no reason why this should have slipped under the radar. It's huger than huge.
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pox americana Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:13 AM
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11. Because the media play us like a fiddle.
And BushCo has the media in its pocket, along with every other busine$$.
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 01:44 AM
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14. Because
It's a red herring!

911 was an inside job.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:42 PM
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17. The info in this article is nothing new. Its been known a long time.
And there was much more detailed warnings than noted in this story.
http://www.flcv.com/warnings.html
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