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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:59 AM
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Has anyone heard about black helicopters flying around the WTC on 9/10?
I am listening to Coast To Coast AM from last night, and there is a caller who said he worked on the 90th floor of WTC 1. With the grace of God he didn't go into work that day. He observed black helicopters circling the buildings and even told a friend who worked there on a lower floor, and the partner of her lawfirm called the FBI questioning them.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:34 PM
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1. Speaking of Black Helicopters
I noticed that Catherine Austin Fitts's foreward to "Crossing the Rubicon" says she had black helicopters hovering over her roof garden.
Does anybody have any comment on this?

I've never investigated black helicopters myself, but I've always
assumed they were an urban legend.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:20 PM
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2. From Wikipedia, this is the fact section on black helicopters.
There is also another section on conspiracy theories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_helicopters
Black Helicopter Facts
The American military community does in fact operate helicopters, particularly the Pave Low which is optimized for long-range stealthy insertion and extraction of personnel, including combat search and rescue.

The US Army regularly conducts both exercises and operational missions in United States airspace. Some of these exercises have taken place in heavily urbanized areas, including Los Angeles, Detroit, San Francisco, Oakland and Washington DC. Most operational missions are tasked in narcotics interdiction in the American Southwest and out of Florida. By extensive use of GPS and night vision equipment, as well as other classified means, are able to fly in zero visibility conditions with no running lights. At this high intensity level of operation, training is necessarily almost as dangerous as actual combat. Frequent practice is necessary to retain proficiency.

At least some sightings of black helicopters are very likely to have been helicopters on exercises and/or missions. This only feeds fuel to the fire for conspiracy theorists who do their homework on military matters. However, from a practical perspective, any extensive missions conducted by the American military on domestic soil would rapidly leak to the news media, and thus to the general public.

Conspiracy theorists would probably not be comforted to know that small-arms fire is almost entirely ineffective against a well-planned helicopter mission, and that the use of automatic weapons would mark the firing positions for counter-fire and air strikes. However, surface to air missiles are particularly effective against helicopters, with many infrared-guided weapons able to acquire targets from any angle of launch.

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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:35 PM
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3. Thanks, Ommm.... forgive my laziness? n/t
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 07:48 PM
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4. My pleasure petgoat, and please, if I had to track everything down
I would go bonkers! Have a great night! :hi:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:03 PM
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5. i live in between a couple of military bases and have seen "black"
helicopters often. i figure they have something to do with the military, as our hospital and police helicopters are white with insignia.
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staticstopper Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:22 PM
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8. I think just plain
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 10:25 PM by staticstopper
*helicopters* should suffice.

(no need to get all X-files)

As in, "ya, I saw these weird helicopters, they were dark without any insignia or identifing marks, yada, yada.

But then again, I no nothing of this radio program you speak of.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:46 PM
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11. Speaking about black helicopters. I just read this thread in GD
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:13 PM
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6. Sight seeing helicopters perhaps?
I googled and found a bunch of companies - here is a sample:

http://www.allnewyorktours.com/Body.asp?mode=2&Page=SearchByModeCity&Type=AI&TY=AI&SearchName=Helicopter&eType=Activities

If they are so common post 9/11 there is no reason to believe they weren't a common sight around the WTC before 9/11.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:27 PM
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9. It was so strange that the FBI was called. I used to live in
Manhattan, worked there, and still go down there. The heliport has no black helicopters that I recall.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:35 PM
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7. There was a white bell helicopter photographed at WTC on 9/11
when the planes hit;
as well as a white jet
perhaps the same one that was also seen at the Crash site of Fl 93.

the URLs have been posted before.


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:32 PM
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10. I recall the white helicopter by the WTC. This man saw
black ones. His friend saw black ones, and so did the attorney who called the FBI.

I wish I had the knowledge and the bandwith to post his call. He was a very articulate, intelligent man, who claims he was in risk management. His call was so intriguing that Noory asked him to call back on Thursday (tomorrow) when they would be doing a show on 9/11. He was going to make arrangements with Noory's producer.
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