PROOF THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT 9/11 is how they're handling N.O.!

[cyberpj]

On 9/11 they had a PLAN.

When they're caught by surprise, they have no idea what to do and thousands of U.S. citizens are left hungry and thirsty for days (and still counting)!

I'm telling you, this is PROOF!


"The Whole World's Watching!"
"The Whole World's Watching!"
"The Whole World's Watching!"

[spooked911]

1. I don't know-- I think they might have even planned this disaster

in some sick way-- blown the levee or something.

I wouldn't put it past them.

What do you think they were planning this past five weeks anyway?

[petgoat]

3. How do "They" benefit from blowing the levees?

please provide details

[spooked911]

13. several ways, there are others too

1) contracts for Halliburton to rebuild

2) US troops get to "practice" martial law in a US city with real live US citizens.

Other reasons:

3) get Americans used to regular major disasters with thousands of people dying, as well as the presence of troops in US cities

4) the Bush administration gets to cement the incompetence excuse in every one's minds (really, 9/11 was just "incompetence", there was no government complicity)

5) getting rid of some poor black folks and their homes to make room for the wonders of economic redevelopment-- casinos and luxury hotels

6) so the Bush administration can militarize the weather (more than the US already has)

7) another excuse and distraction to pass noxious legislation

The beauty of it, just like Islamic terrorists attacking the WTC again, everyone EXPECTED a hurricane would eventually cause enough damage to break the levees, and so they had a perfect excuse when it happened-- plus it seems so counterintuitive that the Bush administration would benefit from this, thus hardly anyone will even think they had a hand in this disaster.

But look at it this way-- how many times does lightening like 9/11 and like Katrina strike, and both just happened to occur on Bush's watch?

It's too much of a coincidence.

[petgoat]

23. Interesting List, spooked

My initial take on 7/7 was that it could only hurt the Bushcists because
it showed their antiterrorist strategy was not working. I was wrong.

My initial take on NOLA was that the federal ineptitude would anger the
American people--apparently it didn't.

Other possible benefits to the Bushcists:

1. NOLA news coverage eclipses 9/11 anniversary analysis.

2. NOLA deflects 9/11 outrage: "You must be a racist if you think
the deaths of 3000 white people four years ago is more important than
the deaths of 30,000 black people ten days ago."

3. NOLA death toll makes the upcoming 2,000 death figure for GIs in Iraq look insignificant.

4. Calls for emergency mass evacuation plans and equipment
(helicopters, busses, trucks, legislation to facilitate comandeering
of railroad cars) in every possible disaster zone (flood, tornado,
earthquake, nuke leak, chemical leak, RR or barge chemical leak)
will put in infrastructure to facilitate mass arrests.

[dbeach]

6. check out my lonely DU post about how funds got diverted

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4589998

and one way out site says the FEMA fascist sabatoged the Levees

This is a war ..a battle for control of your very soul.

[spooked911]

14. Halliburton rears its ugly head, that's an interesting connection

[cyberpj]

29. Halliburton gets contract - Bush lowers contract wages Anyone surprised?

Halliburton's KBR unit gets contract to repair Gulf Coast facilities

Halliburton Co.'s Kellogg Brown & Root subsidiary has begun work on a $500 million U.S. Navy contract for emergency repairs at Gulf Coast naval and marine facilities that were damaged by Hurricane Katrina, according to an Associated Press report.

KBR has been under fire for receiving a five-year, no-bid contract to restore Iraqi oil fields shortly before the U.S. went to war against Iraq in 2003.

The subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown & Root Services Inc. of Arlington, Va., won the competitive-bid contract last July to provide debris removal and other emergency work associated with natural disasters.

Jan Davis, a spokeswoman for the Naval Facilities Engineering Command, told AP that KBR will receive $12 million for work at Naval Air Station Pascagoula, Naval Station Gulfport and Stennis Space Center in Mississippi. The company will receive $4.6 million for work at two smaller Navy facilities in New Orleans and others in the South.

KBR has provided similar work after major disasters in the United States and abroad for more than 15 years, including in Florida after Hurricane Andrew.

AP added that Houston-based Halliburton (NYSE: HAL) has reported being paid $10.7 billion for Iraq-related government work during 2003 and 2004. Pentagon auditors have questioned tens of millions of dollars of Halliburton charges for its operations there.

more:
http://houston.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2005/09/05/daily5.html


Bush lifts wage rules for Katrina

President signs executive order allowing contractors to pay below prevailing wage in affected areas.
September 9, 2005: 11:43 AM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush issued an executive order Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage.

In a notice to Congress, Bush said the hurricane had caused "a national emergency" that permits him to take such action under the 1931 Davis-Bacon Act in ravaged areas of Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi.

The Davis-Bacon law requires federal contractors to pay workers at least the prevailing wages in the area where the work is conducted. It applies to federally funded construction projects such as highways and bridges.

here:
http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/08/news/economy/katrina_wages.reut/

[philb]

2. They knew a hurricane could cause devastation in N.O.- but cut budget of

Corps of Engineers for flood control infrastructure and prevention in that area. The Bush Admin. had other priorities.
It was very strange, having family in that area to hear all the speculation about how a hurricane would do exactly what did occur.
But the Federeal Gov't was cutting the budget for preventing such from happening. Its seems the state and locals didn't do enough either, but I don't know anything about that.

[demodewd]

4. maybe

Maybe the hurricane was induced by Scalar weaponry? Am I nuts?

[janedoe]

5. Tell us more! I think it's possible.

The timing is just too good!

But, it's almost a given that there will be a hurricane somewhere in the Gulf, sometime, during the hurricane season. For this Bush plan, it would only need to be in the neighborhood of a hurricane, enough to be believable.

Then, wait for the power to go out (or help it out, if necessary), and wait for the sun to go down. Now, you only need one scuba diver with night-vision goggles, who drives up to the right place in his motor boat, and drops anchor. He hops over the edge, places his explosives, and hops back in the boat with his wired connection. He initiates the detonation as he drives off (or sets it on a short time delay), and motors off.

Then, you order a stand-down of any emergency response. (sound familiar?)

To discourage folks from suspecting you had something to do with the hole blown in the levee, you flee the scene, and "rush" to DC. Then, you immediately turn around and "rush" right back down to inspect the damage, attempting to give the impression that you came rushing to their aid, as soon as you heard the shocking news. If the sheeple are still as gullible as they were on 911, they'll grab at the chance to see you as a caring hero.

Assuming you were just sitting around and waiting for a nice hurricane to arrive, the whole job is pretty low tech, I'd say.

Now, if you can affect the weather, it would be a lot more convenient.

[spooked911]

7. check out HAARP technology

the military has ways of changing the weather

[dbeach]

8. what?? the US military are the good guys

SURE !! HAARP and SCALAR and more stuff aka like James Bond movies..ALL FOR THE ELITES to control the paupers


Military is another tool for the elites..

[Henny Penny]

9. The hurricane can occur normally but just be steered in

the right direction using HAARP or similar technologies.

We need some meteorologists to look closely at the trajectory to see if anything unusual was observed.

[demodewd]

10. thanks

That makes a lot of sense to me though I really know so very little about the capacities of HAARP.

[Henny Penny]

11. you can download a video about it...

http://mistakesweremade.com/vid/

Scroll down the list. If you have real player you can choose the option to save to disc, its about 38mb.

There is some good science in there amidst the more touchy feely stuff.

[Henny Penny]

12. Someone just posted this in gd...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7845030

[spooked911]

16. That is a very strange turn the hurricane takes around Florida.

Is that normal at all? Could they have steered that storm into NOLA?

[Henny Penny]

17. If you run all the sequences, Jeanne certainly sticks out. n/t

[spooked911]

15. what I want to know is: who was incharge of monitoring the levee system

after the storm-- and why didn't this person do their job?

It turns out three canal walls were blown--not the levees. It seems to me canals could have been easily blocked thus averting the flooding. Why weren't the canal mouths blocked?

Was there some sort of stand-down order????????????

[tx_dem41]

18. Ummm....I must have missed something....

you said something about "proof".

Where is it?

[demodewd]

19. proof by sequence and logic

Its proof by the observable progression of questionable geo-political events that have happened primarily during Bush 43s tenure to date. These events very possibly being staged by an Anglo-American-Zionist geo-political faction.

[tx_dem41]

20. Oh lord....I'm sorry I asked.

Scary to think people buy into that crap.

[demodewd]

21. re: scary

Oh yeah...what political alliance configuration do you come up with when dealing with dynamic geo-politics? Tell me what group of financiers are going to take advantage of all that downtown New Orleans property that is going to be sold at a fraction of its previous price? Its SCARY to think that there are hundreds of million people such as yourself who refuse to see geo-politics beyond it's conventional descriptions as continually pressed on us by corporate controlled mass media.

[tx_dem41]

22. "Financiers".....hmmmmm.....

is that a code word for something? Me being "conventional" and all...I guess I'm kind of slow on the uptake.

[demodewd]

24. may I suggest

I suggest you read "The Unofficial Biography of GHW Bush" by Webster Tarpley. You can read it off the internet. :)

[MercutioATC]

26. That'll teach ya...

The word "proof" has a different definition here.

If somebody can infer something based on one or two pieces of evidence (which could very well mean something else) viewed through their own particular silver-colored glasses, they have "proof".

Welcome to the world of DU's 9/11 Forum!

[demodewd]

27. re:evidence

If somebody can infer something based on one or two pieces of evidence (which could very well mean something else) viewed through their own particular silver-colored glasses, they have "proof".

The one or two pieces of evidence are open to different interpretations.You have no "proof" either thus you deduce your conclusions by examining "evidence" and circumstance just like us.

[MercutioATC]

28. Yes, I have "conclusions". YOU called it "PROOF" in the thread title.

You and I seem to have different definitions of the word "proof".

[demodewd]

31. Excuse...but

I didn't post the thread title.

[MercutioATC]

32. Sorry, you're right. THIS was your little gem:

"Its proof by the observable progression of questionable geo-political events that have happened primarily during Bush 43s tenure to date. These events very possibly being staged by an Anglo-American-Zionist geo-political faction."

Our definitions are still different...

[demodewd]

34. coincidence

Do you think everything in this world happens by coincidence for the most part?

[MercutioATC]

35. No, but I don't consider musings based on limited data as "proof".

When did the discussion change to coincidences?

[philb]

25. They botched this one too & claimed again no one could have expected,

but I don't think there's any other connection to 9/11 than that they were both allowed to happen when fully expected.
And in the case of 9/11 they might have had more involvement than
letting it happen.

I've not seen convincing evidence that N.O. was planned or helped along by anyone for devious purposes.
Likely just long time neglect and unconcern for a mostly very poor region. And even after it happened likewise.

[cyberpj]

30. Agreed. The point of the post is that 9/11 event had ORGANIZED RESPONSE

Admitted, it was a single morning event and this was a right/left punch (first the storm, then the break) but man, don't you remember how very much on top of it the 9/11 crowd was?

Is it just me?

[TheCentepedeShoes]

33. I think about this

and the only thing that comes to me is that they want control of the port. I don't know why I think this, I haven't been listening at any doors and I don't get messages through my earrings. It's what I think of when I see that they want ALL people out of NO, even those in areas not terribly damaged by Katrina and not affected by the flood.