TomFlocco.com: "Barbara Olson arrested in Europe."

[Beam Me Up]

9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe

by Tom Flocco

Austria--September 22, 2005--TomFlocco.com--French and American intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olson, the wife of a former Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-Austrian border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency, according to the agents.

Olson was also reportedly in possession of a fraudulent Vatican passport and was held on charges of counterfeiting.


Barbara K. Olson

The former Fox News TV commentator and Independent Women's Forum activist was said to have called her husband Theodore Olson from her plane to seek help in countering hijackers who had allegedly taken over American flight 77 which the Bush administration said was crashed into the Pentagon- although the impact only left an opening approximately 16 feet across.

Ted Olson is the former Bush 43 Solicitor General who had previously argued the President's legal interests in the controversial Bush-Gore 2000 election recount case before the U.S. Supreme Court.

More:

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/OlsenArrested.htm

[Sweet Pea]

1. ummmmm.....

:tinfoilhat:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

2. There are two things he states here which cannot be. Austria

doesn't share a border with Poland and the Italians use the Euro, not the Lyra(sp)...was the lira.

I have a feeling that there are people feeding Tom information to make him look a fool. But you never know with such reports, as there might be a grain of truth in them.

[Caution]

4. He doesn't need any help. He does just fine on his own.

[spooked911]

6. you're right, but still this is still very weird.

Oddly, I had read on another site a few months back that Olson was alive and living in Belgium. This would fit in with the idea that she is living clandestinely in Europe. But obviously Tom hasn't done much fact checking on this, most likely it is just some crazy rumor floating aorund Europe.

[vincent_vega_lives]

3. Austria is very beautiful this time of year

:toast:

[WoodrowFan]

5. and you believe it??

:rofl: do you agree with him that Clinton killed "john John" Kennedy too????

[dbeach]

7. Wish it true but its looking like big disinfo

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/index.asp

may be more to this BUT Flocco looking real bad..

he did another disinfo story about 2 yrs ago but did apologize
it was about some plane crash . I like the JFK jr story . TRUE??
I know one fact about JFK jr story is that the MM reported that it was a foggy nite and he was a poor pilot.

I live across the ocean from Block Island which is near the the crash site..IT WAS CLEAR AS A BELL FOR about 10 days..it was my vacation and when the MM kept harping that it was foggy..it was big lie.
.NOT a smoking gun but another of them strange coincidences that are quite in vogue since 11/22/63

[pox americana]

10. Very strange about JJ.

Thanks for that!

[reprehensor]

8. Tom ran a correction.

Now says 'Polish-German' border.

Seems to be sticking with his story.

Let's see a picture, Tom.

[JackRiddler]

9. Foolish, evil bastard

PEOPLE!

Don't take it personally, but how can anyone still be falling for this cheap con-artist Flocco?

He is beyond fakery and doesn't even pretend otherwise.

Not only are there no sources for the story, but Austria does not share a border with Poland; Italy dropped the lira (not Lyra!) three years ago when it adopted the euro along with 11 other countries (which I do believe was a news story even in the US). These are such obvious gaffes that I can only think their inclusion is intentional.

My guess is that Flocco was "converted" in some fashion to act as an agent of corrosive parody among 9/11 skeptics.

For the last year-plus he has done nothing but float beautiful fantasy stories for the likes of us. It's a kind of experiment to see how many people get the joke. His site tests the credulity of the alt-truth community (complete with a big ad for "Loose Change").

Don't be insulted, 'tis true and you've fallen for it, but you need not do so ever again.

According to Flocco, New York has a secret 9/11 grand jury running in Albany and it has rebelled against Spitzer's attempts to shut it down. Fitzgerald put in indictments against Bush and Cheney. That other con-man Karl Schwarz (who fooled me once, too) has 150 military insider/whistleblowers feeding him the truth about 9/11. Katharine Harris was offed in a plane crash! Oops, sorry, not. And the smoking gun in the case of JFK Jr. points to Bush AND Clinton equally.

It's great stuff... as fiction.

An irresponsible buffoon in the service of evil.

[genius]

11. Was this arrest for real? If it is and word gets out, Bush is through.

This was forwarded to me this evening. If the information about the arrest is true, there will probably be an immediate move to try to cover it up. If the French authorities don't let them cover it up, this might be more effective than Downing Street or Valerie Plame in getting Bush out of office. Tom's reportedly an investigative reporter.

This article comes from

Tom Flocco.com
http://www.tomflocco.com/

9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe
Date: Thursday, September 22
Topic: 9-11 Investigations


9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe

by Tom Flocco

Germany--September 22, 2005--TomFlocco.com--French and American
intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olson, the wife of a former
Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-German
border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the
incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of
millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency, according to the
agents.

Olson was also reportedly in possession of a fraudulent Vatican
passport and was held on charges of counterfeiting.
The former Fox News TV commentator and Independent Women's Forum
activist was said to have called her husband Theodore Olson from her
plane to seek help in countering hijackers who had allegedly taken over
American flight 77 which the Bush administration said was crashed into
the Pentagon- although the impact only left an opening approximately 16
feet across.

Ted Olson is the former Bush 43 Solicitor General who had previously
argued the President's legal interests in the controversial Bush-Gore
2000 election recount case before the U.S. Supreme Court.
Mrs. Olson's alleged cell phone call to her husband was employed by the
administration and the 9.11 Commission as partial proof that American
77 crashed into the Pentagon, despite physical evidence to the
contrary.

The Pentagon crash evidence was ignored and obstructed by both the
Commission and previously by the Joint Congressional Intelligence
Committee in its own separate probe.
Due to the ongoing sensitive nature of the arrest, investigation and
questioning, one source who declined to be named for this story, told
TomFlocco.com that Olson's call to her husband was a fraud and that
another projectile impacted the Pentagon other than Olson's plane.

The agents were said to have closed in to arrest the former television
pundit because the evidence of counterfeiting and passport violations
was obvious and that the timing was right.

According to the agents, Barbara Olson is reportedly considered to be a
conspirator to the obstruction of justice in the mass murders of 3,000
individuals on September 11, 2001 in the attacks on the World Trade
Center, the Pentagon and the alleged crash in southwestern
Pennsylvania.

Olson's arrest and potential appearance at trial in the United States
would undoubtedly have a profound impact upon current "Able Danger"
hearings in the Senate and past probes by both the Joint Congressional
Intelligence Committee and the 9.11 Commission.

< We have changed the location of this report to the Polish-German[br />border to correct the original phoned-in intelligence report we
received.

When we went back and questioned this location, We were given the
Polish-German border as the correct location.

The spelling of Olson’s name was corrected within 60 minutes after the
story was posted. TF]

[aquart]

12. Please. Flocco? Geesh.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. LOL! Tom Flocco! I'd give far more credence to this story if it came from

the National Enquirer.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

14. kookoo.com

[seemunkee]

15. There was another thread on this today

and most of it centered on Flocco's reliability. Is there any collaberation?

[genius]

39. The emails of his that have been forwarded in the past have checked out.

So he's built up considerable credibility.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

16. Oh, rats

The only good thing that came of that plane hitting the Pentagon was Barbara Olson couldn't appear on the damn Larry King Show, bashing Clinton and Democrats, anymore.

[flowomo]

17. stick to The Onion.... it's more accurate.... and funnier...

than Flocco

[QC]

18. The Illuminati and the Elders of Zion rescued her

so that she can continue the fluoridation of American water, thus contaminating our precious bodily fluids.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. I thought she was kidnapped by the Trilateral Commission

and forced to give birth to Elvis' baby in the Bermuda Triangle.

[Cocoa]

24. that's misinfo

Skull and Bones spread that rumor to divert from Olson's true identity: Johnny Gosch. :tinfoilhat:

[QC]

51. Has someone told Johnny's poor mother yet?

Or is she in on the whole thing, too?

[Dharma_Bum]

20. I Dunno?

Shure would be creepy if it was true ...

[KyndCulture]

23. That was my first thought....

but no :tinfoil: for me tonight!

[mirandapriestly]

29. I agree! (Wouldn't surprise me either) nt

[Connie_Corleone]

21. Did Olson get resurrected in her new, sinless body?

She died on the plane. This story is crap.

[AntiCoup2K4]

27. I don't know what plane you think she died on....

....but it wasn't the one that allegedly hit the Pentagon, because that never happenned.

And since that plane crash did NOT happen, I wouldn't at all be surprised to hear that Babs Olson is alive.

That said, there's no way the Bush Criminal Empire would be stupid enough to have her running around in public, even in Europe where few would recognize her, for the very reason that her getting caught would throw the entire 9-11-01 cover story right out the window.

Considering the other folks on that alleged flight were mostly DOD employees and Raytheon employees (makers of the "Global Hawk" remote control technology), it's far more likely that all of them were conscripted into service of the "shadow government" and are probably living in some underground facility such as Mt. Weather VA.

[Connie_Corleone]

30. There were children on a school field trip on that flight also.

Where did they go?

[genius]

35. I doubt their alive. The question, though, is was Barbara arrested.

Too much of a liability for Bush to keep the kids alive.

If she is alive, everyone related to someone on that plane has a right to ask what happened to their relatives.

[AntiCoup2K4]

42. Probably being brainwashed by Mossad in the underground facility....

...for when they start rolling out the "suicide bomber" psyops here.

[sabbat hunter]

82. huh?

was that sarcasm? tough to tell via internet

[QC]

49. But few people ever visit the Poland/Austria border,

so it would probably be relatively safe to let Barb roam free there.

[dbeach]

69. BABS phony phone call to the bush attorney named olson

which has NO documentation helped pivot the official govt story of that tragic day..teddy olson was the compromised attorney who argued that bush should be president before the SC junta of 2000..they may be spouses BUT each gained from the annointment of jr to the presidency...

Teddy is most likely the bag man who the bush criminals funnelled the bribes to our esteemed SC judges scumlia and reinquist..now deceased..

the USA has been an occupied nation since 9/11..the ruling elites have LOOTED the treasury while we pray for victims and prepare for $5/gallon gas and the political exploitation of yet another tragedy in Rita

www.fourwinds10.com/news/...pened.html
Barbara Olson's Call From Flight 77 Never Happened

"The contortions of all involved not to leave a paper trail in the form of phone bills proves it.

By: Rowland Morgan
2nd Dec, 04

Most of the 25 male passengers on Flight 77 were well-connected military-industrialists. Three of them were with Boeing aerospace. It seems likely that these individuals would have possessed mobile phones in their pockets, if not the others. Although mobile calls are illegal during flights, passengers would certainly have tried to make a connection in such an emergency, as they are supposed to have on Flight 175 and Flight 93. Canadian tests have shown that over 8,000 ft altitude, the likelihood of making a connection is remote. Moreover, American Airlines (which operated Flight 77), announced an experimental innovation in 2004 that would enable in-flight mobile calls. Alternatively, the passengers might have used an in-flight satellite telephone, if the 757 was so equipped. But, after knife- and boxcutter- wielding hijackers supposedly herded passengers to the rear of the ‘plane, only one passenger is supposed to have made a call. She was Barbara Olson, a notoriously hawkish right-winger and CNN TV pundit, third wife of an even more hawkish right-winger, Ted Olson, whom the President had appointed Solicitor-General after Olson persuaded the Supreme Court to appoint his election-losing client to the Presidency by a margin of one vote.

The Olson phone call story is a central load-bearing beam in the whole 9/11 official construction. It was crucial in establishing the existence of marauders on a civilian flight and their possession of dangerous weapons. Later, the identity of the plane that hit the Pentagon hinged on it, too. This vital, founding element of the narrative originated in the Department of Justice and was carried by CNN, part of $38 billion-a-year AOL-Time-Warner (as it was then). It was issued on 12th September at 2:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time---just 16 hours after Olson’s bereavement. It went as follows:

Barbara Olson, a conservative commentator and attorney, alerted her husband, Solicitor General Ted Olson, that the plane she was on was being hijacked Tuesday morning, Ted Olson told CNN. Shortly afterwards Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon (sic)… Ted Olson told CNN that his wife said all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers. The only weapons she mentioned were knives and cardboard cutters. She felt nobody was in charge and asked her husband to tell the pilot what to do.

This was the first eye-witness account of hijackers to reach the public. A TV celebrity had seen them, and filed the story with CNN by means of her second husband making an unsubstantiated verbal report. They were men brandishing knives and cardboard cutters who herded passengers to the rear of the plane. No hint of their appearance or origin, but living, breathing hijackers. The story at no point quotes Ted Olson directly and nor does it say by what method his lawyer wife telephoned. All subsequent mass-media reports of the Olson call were derived from this original, freely citing it as a mobile phone call. "

[ryan_cats]

94. I was just on a Southwest Airlines flight.

I was just on a Southwest Airlines flight. I tried to get a connection from takeoff, on the climb to altitude and at altitude. I tried it on both flights, out and back. I was over LA so I know they had a lot of cell towers.
I was unable to get a connection once we were barely above the ground. I find it hard to believe that ANYONE made a cell phone call on any of the flights.

[philb]

76. while U.S. Bureau of Transportation had no information that Fl 77 flew

on 9/11, it appears that some plane was tracked which FAA officials thought was Fl77. But they don't seem to know what happened to it.
Perhaps some of that is deliberate disinformation, but its very confusing. FAA reported Fl 77 lost; down in Kentucky; radar track shows it going to Kansas; some plane was tracked to D.C.
But there is official support that that plane may have been Flight 11.

Why was the official record so confused and confusing?
http://www.flcv.com/offcom77.html
http://www.flcv.com/offcom11.html

[Frances]

22. I'm tempted to forward this article to my cousin

who sends me right wing fantasy stuff all of the time. Turn about is fair play, right?

[omega minimo]

25. That writing's so bad it hurts my head

[tocqueville]

26. millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency ???

1) it's lira. Lyra is a music instrument.
2) lira is today worthless. Italy went over to the Euro 1/1/2001.

Even if the Bank of Italy would take them back, which is not probable... millions of lira would result in some 10 thousands of euros/dollars, since the lira was a very weak currency...

all this shows the report is BS

[Mz Pip]

28. Did they arrest

the other 100+ people who were with her on the plane on 9/11? Then there might really be a story. :crazy:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[genius]

36. It only takes one.

[genius]

37. So how do we go about finding out the truth of this?

There is nothing in the article that is a surprise - except that anyone would report it if she was caught.

Before we discount the biggest evidence against Bush ever, we need to find if there is something there.

[mirandapriestly]

31. Do Poland & Austria share a border? I don't think so.. nt

[genius]

33. It says Germany and Poland

[punpirate]

43. It didn't say that early this morning...

... It said the Polish-Austrian border. And, in the earlier version, Flocco had a dateline of "Austria" as if he was there.

This is more nonsense, and is at least the third time someone has jumped on this as if it's news. *sigh* It's fiction, like virtually all of Flocco's pieces.

[genius]

32. We know for a fact that her plane never hit the Pentagon

It's up in the air what happened to the plane and the passengers. The general theory is that the passengers were executed by our government. But that's just theory. If makes since that our government wouldn't kill Olson. With most of the passengers, they would be afraid of them turning up alive. It's important to note that her book was published after she died.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

34. They found wreckage of a 757, including the engines, at the Pentagon,.

So whose 757 was that?

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

38. They did? Pictures, links?

[genius]

40. Thank you.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

45. Lots of photos here.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

Includes pics of landing gear and engine wreckage, other photos, illustrations, explanations and diagrams. If that airplane is really somewhere else, I'm sure American Airlines would like to have it back.

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

48. Do we have reason to give credence to this presentation

and this unidentified individual?

"Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11
by "CatHerder", Member, AboveTopSecret.com/forum
September 11th, 2004"

[renie408]

53. Well, to be fair, where is your 'proof'?

If there was anything even remotely resembling proof of this, SOMEBODY besides the internet underground would have jumped on it.

There are people besides us that don't like Bush. Don't you think they might have an interest in this sort of thing? Or are they all in on it?

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

56. How is that "fair?"

Where is the truth? Who do we give credence to?

Are you aware of any "secrets" that are widely known, but rarely spoken of? What does that tell you?

How do you come to be in possession of the truth of this matter?

[pox americana]

60. Lots of people ARE in on it, and lots have called bullshit.

The first group includes the politicians and operatives who engineered and carried it out, plus the professional "experts" lining their pockets by pushing the official fairy tale.

The second group includes the entire 9-11 truth movement/industry which you see represented in this forum. Welcome!

[genius]

50. That's proof a Global Hawk (not a 757) hit the Pentagon

You proved my case. Thank you.

[MnFats]

41. thank you.

there is so much bullshit out there about this whole thing you almost hate to stick your neck out and say 'it happened.' The fucking plane hit the fucking pentagon and they all died, including the children on their way to the Geographic Bee.

[AntiCoup2K4]

59. The only plane crash we really know ANYTHING about is the second WTC crash

That was the big media moment, by design. The planners of the attack, whomever you believe that might be, correctly assumed that TV cameras from every network would be focused on the World Trade Center, after the first crash, and that every one of these cameras would record the second crash.

Clearly, THAT crash was done by a Boeing 757. Whether or not it was a passenger jet is another story, as several eyewitnesses have insisted there were no windows on the plane.

The first WTC was not meant to be filmed, but by the coincidence of two French brothers filming a routine documentary on the FDNY (or so they thought) we get the last split second before impact. Because the cameraman doesn't have time for a proper focus, we don't get a good look at the plane. But all media reports in the first 15 minutes reported the incident as a "small plane" hitting the towers, in what was generally assumed to be an accident until the second plane came in. I don't believe the angle at which the plane dropped into the building, or the width of the initial impact are consistent with a 757, but without better footage, it's inconclusive.

Film exists of the Pentagon impact. Logically, it should be part of the public historical record, as the other crash footage is. But it has never been seen. Not in any television show. Not in any documentary. Not on any website. If the footage clearly shows a Boeing 757 slamming into the building, as the official story claims, then why not release it?

The obvious answer is that they have something to hide, and that the film shows something that does not support the "official" story.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

86. I have a personal comment on the below statement from your post.

But all media reports in the first 15 minutes reported the incident as a "small plane" hitting the towers,

I live in Westchester Co., a suburb of NYC, and was watching the Today Show. At about 8:45 maybe a bit later, local news cut-in and reported that there was a fire at WTC one and they had an eyewitness on the ground who called in. This man said it looked like a small plane. I don't recall where he was calling from, but it seemed like he was quite close to the scene.

[petgoat]

90. "This man said it looked like a small plane."

A friend attended a lecture by the lawyer and author Scott Turow in
which Mr. Turow said a friend was an eyewitness and continued to insist
that it was a small plane.

I believe the friend was regarded as competent and that Mr. Turow
brought up the story as an example of the unreliability of eyewitness
testimony.

If it was a small plane, I take it the french film of the WTC1 strike
was faked?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

91. What's odd is that I never thought of that possibility until I posted this

about a small plane.

[stickdog]

63. Glad that you are so certain of this. It shows a lot of faith.

However, some of us require evidence to believe something so firmly.

[Solomon]

44. No they didn't. The Pentagon is under 24 hr surveillance but they

never showed you a plane crashing into it did they?

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

46. And there were any number of cameras in the area that would

have caught the action, but the film was taken by the guvment.

And the hole in the pentagon wasn't big enough given the supposed size of the airplane or whatever crashed into it, and very little wreckage of anything was found.

Given the record of * et al, how can we believe anything they say without some real proof?

I for one don't.

[renie408]

52. Which record?

The record of them being greedy incompetent morons? Or of them being insanely clever Machiavellian planners?

Let me ask this...why is it they can keep the fact that they are behind 9/11 a secret, but they cannot hide the fact that George is hitting the bottle again? If they will ruthlessly kill a bunch of little kids to cover their tails, they wouldn't hesitate to eliminate a couple of chatty aides.

And if they could pull off 9/11 as seamlessly as they did, why couldn't they pull off hiding WMD in Iraq to justify the war?

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

57. The record of them LYING all the time about almost

everything.

[stickdog]

64. Who killed the National Enquirer reporter with anthrax?

Just wondering about your theory on that one.

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

73. And who sent

anthrax to Dem Senate Majority leader Daschle?

[Blue Belle]

55. Not to mention that the terrorist pilot who was supposedly flying...

the plane was the worst pilot out of all of them. He would have to be of Top Gun caliber to fly a 757 that low and at the angle of reported impact of the building. Plus, if the 757 was to hit the pentagon, wouldn't the hole be bigger and the impact deeper than it was revealed?? It's also peculiar that the "plane" happened to hit the part of the building that was under construction at the time leaving very little casualties... and those who did parish were mostly civilian employees. I think the reported explanation of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory in itself, and possibly contrived than the magic bullet theory. :eyes:

[Hawkowl]

58. video

I can vividly remember watching stop action video of the 757 hitting the pentagon very shortly after it happened. However, I only saw it once and not over, and over, and over again like the twin towers.

It was definitely an American Airlines 757. I'm an airline pilot and that type is very distinctive. Does anybody else remember seeing this?

[hang a left]

62. No

Noone ever saw it because it was never shown. Not sure what you are talking about.

[stickdog]

65. It wasn't a video. It was a 4/5 frame gif animation.

It was released anonymously and it proved nothing.

[philb]

78. I think the only videos showing what hit pentagon were confiscated by FBI

and are not being released to the public.

There are FOIA suits regarding several of the security videos that show what happened; but there have all been denied and suppressed so far? If the official story is accurate, why are they doing this?
There seems to be no credible, plausible reason.

Pentagon security videos and videos from Pentagon gas station and 2 hotels all suppressed.


Likewise photos at the sites of Pentagon and WTC by citizens were controlled and filtered by FBI. As noted by some on Gov't panels reviewing 9/11.

[rman]

88. There is no 757 actually visible in those frames (CNN archive link)

and just about everything else is wrong with it. Most notably the date (sept 12) and the fact that the on-screen clock skips a whole second (going from 19 to 21 from one frame to the next).
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07/gen.pentagon.pictures/index.html

[renie408]

54. "General Theory"??

I am not sure how general this theory can be. I mean, it might have a core following of believers, but it is not what I would call a widely held belief. Yes, I know. You know lots of people who believe this. Trust me. I know more who don't. And yes, I know. I have just been duped by this clever administration of Star Chamber types.

Do you honestly believe that Bush or the people behind him planned and carried out 9/11 and faked a jet plane hitting the Pentagon? I have to say, I always thought it played right into their hands. But I always thought they were more just opportunistic enough to take advantage of a bad situation. I really can't wrap my brain around the idea that this government was behind the attacks.

[stickdog]

66. It's called cognitive dissonance. It was the Nazis' best friend. (nt)

[Christophera]

81. Cognitive Dissonance & The US GOV. Has Been Infiltrated

stickdog has the conitive dissonance right.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=56001&mesg_id=56123

Mind kontrol nazi scientists were brought into intelligence agencies in 1953.

[RedSock]

67. It's important to note that her book was published after she died.

It's important to note that her book was published after she died.

***

No, it's not. It's 101% meaningless.

Authors have books ready to be published and die quite often. They might be very old, they might be very sick, they might get hit by a bus, they might kill themselves.

[sabbat hunter]

72. we do?

we know for an absolute fact that a plane didnt hit the pentagon?

i sure dont

[ToolTex]

47. Didn't Ted Olsen testify at John Roberts hearings this week?

n/t

[Make7]

61. She's in Grand Meadow, Minnesota. ( n/t )

[spooked911]

68. I assume you are joking?

[Name removed]

71. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[LARED]

74. Here's a map

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=304+First+St+Nw,+Grand+Meadow,+MN+55936&spn=0.030296,0.058545&hl=en

Maybe someone could go knock on the door

[philb]

75. check white pages for phone no. and call. I assume that its expected

that this is someone with same name?

[LARED]

79. That's no good

If the government can fly commercials airlines remotely, set demolition charges in the WTC's, can implement mind control over hundreds of eye witness at the pentagon without any one in the public knowing about it; faking a voice over the phone is childs play.

Nothing short of DU 911 truth soldiers on the ground knocking on doors will be satisfactory.

[philb]

84. are you suggesting these aren't technically feasible?

Remote control technology has been around a long time and is commonly used; lots of entities have the ability to do this. Its known Boeing 757/767 s are very compatible with it.

Demolition charges could have built into the towers, and they could have been added later depending on construction details. Its known there was opportunity.

There clearly was no consensus among pentagon witnesses; lots of confusion.

I agree that faking phone calls is easy for some with a little techinical expertise and experience.

[LARED]

87. Really, I had no clue that

Remote control is commonly used on commercial aircraft with no one knowing it. Can you please provide some examples.

Also I had no idea 757/767 aircrafts are very compatable with remote control technology, again please provide some evidence.


I also had no clue that demolition charges could be built into or added later into the towers without anyone in the public knowing and exposing this. Please tell me how this is accomplished.

The only confusion about what Pentagon witness saw was normal differences in how people view and communicate what was seen. There does not seem to be any confusion as to a missle hittting the pentagon.

[petgoat]

89. "I also had no clue that demolition charges could be..."

"...built into or added later."

How long have you been hanging around this board?

Didn't Scott Forbes post his story on this board?

Charges could be placed in the elevator shafts quickly and easily by
standing on top of an elevator car and using it as movable staging.

Charges could also be placed at the perimeter columns in the ceilings of
vacant offices (or even of occupied offices during the late-night
hours).

[Make7]

80. They didn't even get her name right in the original article.

The spelling of Olson’s name was corrected within 60 minutes after the story was posted.

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/OlsenArrested.htm

Or the location:

We have changed the location of this report to the Polish-German border to correct the original phoned-in intelligence report we received.
When we went back and questioned this location, We were given the Polish-German border as the correct location.

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/OlsenArrested.htm

And apparently conspiracy to obstruct justice in the mass murder of thousands of people is no longer enough of a crime to detain someone:

The agents were said to have closed in to arrest the former television pundit because the evidence of counterfeiting and passport violations was obvious and that the timing was right.

According to the agents, Barbara Olson is reportedly considered to be a conspirator to the obstruction of justice in the mass murders of 3,000 individuals on September 11, 2001 in the attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the alleged crash in southwestern Pennsylvania.

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/OlsenArrested.htm

I'm surprised they didn't nab her for income tax evasion.

And to top it all off, it appears that it is possible for more than one person to have the same name. I wonder who verified the identity of this Barbara Olsen (oh, wait...I meant Olson) that was arrested as the one who was a passenger on Flight 77. I wonder if anyone even tried - I guess that wouldn't make for a very good story when it turned out that it was not her.

-Make7

[philb]

85. One would think if such was true it would be fairly easy to verify;

police departments keep records; and it seems this hasn't been verified, so likely didn't happen.

Of course something similar could have happened to some Barbara Olsen

[Beam Me Up]

70. Thanks to everyone who responded to the OP:

Thanks for the mods for not locking the thread. I appreciate very much the debate that has followed from it. In many respects it sort of 'encapsulates' much of the dissonance that surrounds any attempt to discover the truth of matters.

Would everyone here agree that there has been no genuine investigation of the events leading up to and including those of 9/11?

To me the answer is obvious: What 'facts' have been investigated openly and transparently by this government, have been 'investigated' selectively and from a given point of view that can only reinforce their publicly presented narrative. Meanwhile evidence contradicting this narrative is either ignored or derided as not worthy of attention.

The consequence is the proverbial "cognitive dissonance" that keeps us all IN DOUBT of our own perceptions, of our own reason, and IN DOUBT of other citizens who--without access to the powers of state to investigate accumulated evidence held, for example, by the FBI and question under oath witness accounts--piece together alternative narratives based on such insubstantial evidence as happen to be in the public domain.

The consequence is what I call THE TOWER OF BABEL SYNDRONE. "Everybody's talkn' at me, Can't hear a word they're sayin', only the echoes of my mind..."

My motto: Whoever controls your perception of reality (what you believe to be real about yourself and your world) controls you. Understanding that "social reality" IN TOTAL is a *construct* is the first step in waking up.

Good morning, everyone. :hi:

Edit: Word in lyric was incorrect.

[philb]

77. The many changes in Mr. Olsen's story make his story implausible

so its unlikely that his report is credible in any regard.
He also isn't a credible source based on his history.
So I can't see any reason to believe anything based on the Olsen story.

And as shown, the reported conversations had anomolies as well.

[Ferry Fey]

83. One, two, many Barbara Olsons

If you want to get a handle on how common somone's name is, one of the quickest ways is to check US Search. I entered Barbara Olson as the name, guessed 50 as the approximate age, no state specified, and came up with 130 Barbara Olson listings.

Admittedly, some are inevitably duplicates. But it at least gives you an idea of whether someone being publicly listed as Barbara Olson means diddly-squat. And in this case, I don't think it does.


http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/cwf?cid=people&action=browsecatalog&searchtab=people&fc=orange&TID=&adID=9999990003&sourceid=&adsource=16

[nonny]

92. Italian Lira can still be exchanged at Banca d’Italia

In Italy the lira ceases to be legal tender on 2/28/ 2002 but lira's can still be redeemed for 10 years
http://www.worksandwords.com/coins/ecc/ecc0109.htm

Where Italian lira is concerned, the fixed exchange rate is Euro 1 = Italian liras 1,936.27. Until February 28, 2002, both the lira and the euro are legal tender. Starting March 1, 2002, all transactions, be they large or small, will be in euros. For the next 10 years, the liras left in the pockets will be exchangeable for euros in the bank branches of Banca d’Italia only. So the next time you go to Italy, do not forget your euros. Pity, we won’t feel like millionaires anymore, since we said “good-bye” to all those zeros…
http://www.iicvan-ca.org/iicvan/events/eurodeb.htm


So I don't see a problem with THAT part of the article.

[Make7]

93. Are there any updates on this story? ( n/t )

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