Please don't respond to any "no second plane" posts unless

[Make7]

a) you are a troll
b) you want to waste everyone's time
c) you are interested in discussing it

I DON'T CARE IF THE WTC WAS NOT HIT BY A PLANE.

IT IS NOT CRITICAL TO ESTABLISHING DEMOLITION.

THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES, WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF A NEW WAR.

THE WTC TOWERS WERE PULLED BY DEMOLITION.

END OF STORY.

NOW LET'S SPREAD THE WORD.





For an explanation of this post please refer to the following thread:
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=70303&mesg_id=70303

[dailykoff]

1. Does this mark a change in your thinking?

If so I'll drink to that! :beer:

[simonm]

3. He probably forgot the sarcasm image

:sarcasm:

[greyl]

4. Gee, you guys don't miss anything,

do you?

[Christophera]

6. It Does, I Think- But It's Not Easy

for people to switch in that way. He perhaps has alliances that are not easy to abandon.

I think its great that he can work against something that is so obviously a strawman issue trying to sprout. It shows his sincerity and that he's not an agent. So, ............. cheers!

[Kevin Fenton]

2. I thought for a moment you were serious (n/t)

[Make7]

13. Apparently some people didn't read your response before replying.

I honestly thought, "Please don't respond to any "no second plane" posts unless  c) you are interested in discussing it" was a pretty good hint. Sometimes I misunderestimate things.

- Make7

[Christophera]

5. I Think Make 7 Has Changed Some - I Agree No 2nd Plane Hit Absurd

The technical wherewithall might exist to do this, ........... in Hollywood, but not in downtown Manhattan with thousands of people watching.

I would go for the notion the planes were remote before I'd believe that. But, .......... if they were remote controlled, why did the wrong tower fall first? With remote control over ANYTHING inthe scenario, a perfect crash, collapse (sic) could be created. It was FAR from perfect.

[sabbat hunter]

7. why do you think

why do you think "the wrong tower fell first"

the damage was much lower on the south tower. as a result more weight was taken on by the undamaged columns. more weight cause the overstressing at a more rapid pace and thus the south tower fell first.
wow look, logic and reasoning!

and i cannot believe that there are those out there that cannot accept the fact that planes hit the towers. it is a discrace to those that died on the planes to say that IMO

[Kevin Fenton]

8. Tapered columns

"the damage was much lower on the south tower. as a result more weight was taken on by the undamaged columns."
The columns were tapered. Therefore, the columns lower down were designed to take a greater weight than those higher up and the additional weight was not the problem.

Why do you persist with this foolish talking point? Why not try something halfway credible like "The North Tower fires were oxygen-starved, but the South Tower fires weren't, so they were hotter" or "more fireproofing was stripped from trusses in the South Tower" or anything a person with a reasonable amount of knowledge after the towers' structure could take seriously?

[simonm]

9. How the collapse occurred should be questioned

I believe the first building fell because there was not enough smoke and fire created to justify a complete collapse. Therefore, the demolition team was forced to "pull it" before a thorough visual examination by the fire dept. was possible.

When two 110 story buildings fall almost perfectly symmetrical and in mere seconds, I think it should be questioned. Under normal physics you should expect any of the following factors to stop or slow down the collapse.

1. Reinforced mechanical floors
2. Steel cores
3. Steel reinforced concrete
4. Steel frame design similar to a screen mesh

The most logical step would be to understand how and why the buildings fell. That includes taking the following facts into consideration.

1. Explosions witnesses seen & heard in ALL 3 buildings
2. Heavy ejected steel
3. Building 7's collapse characteristics similar to WTC 1 & 2 despite no major visible damage.
4. Pyroclastic clouds
5. Squibs
6. Freefall or near freefall collapse
7. Official attempts at covering up public information not limited to dispatch tapes and schematics
8. Etc....

When you disregard the smoke & mirrors and examine just the physics, the most plausible hypothesis points to demolition.

Video Examples:

http://www.911eyewitness.com/googlelowrez.html

[DemInDistress]

14. simonn good answer...there are those 8 reasons

you mention especially the blasts caught on tape you can watch that 3 part video at google video eyewitness to 911. For 4 yrs. I heard and read reports about explosions and when I finally listened myself (with earphones -BEST) MY FIRST REACTION WAS...WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT. Then 8 more blasts caught on tape,plus terrorize.dk and camera planet caught molten metal dripping from the 80th floor of WT2. Yes my friend 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, A FALSE FLAG OPERATION, BLACK OPS AT ITS BEST, ONLY THEY FUCKED UP BECAUSE WT7 IS A NASTY LOOSE END.

DEM

[DemInDistress]

15. DUPE. POST

EDIT..FOR STUPIDITY..DUPLICATE POST

[Make7]

12. Well, perhaps not that much.

... it is a parody post after all.

And it is really more about people suggesting that no one respond to theories that they think are unfounded and/or irrelevant than about this particular theory.

I think if people are interested in discussing a theory, they should talk about it. If they're not interested, they can ignore it.

Although I do think that the "no second plane" theory is probably not the best one to promote if trying to shoot down the 'official theory', since it is perhaps the most widely accepted event that happened that day, and has a great deal of video and photographic evidence that must be shown to be 'fictitious'. Not to mention the numerous people that saw it happen live that day in Manhattan.

Trying to debunk perhaps the strongest part of the 'official story', just may not be very good strategy. That being said - the discussions concerning the second plane are sometimes rather interesting.

- Make7

[benburch]

10. But your "story" is a damned lie.

And you don't care?

[greyl]

11. psst - read the fine print in the OP

It's related to another thread. ;)