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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 04:53 PM
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McNamara returns to Berkeley to discuss lessons learned from 'Fog of War'
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/02/05_fogofwar.shtml

The question that McNamara wanted to answer — and returned to over and over — was not what he could do to shed insight on the U.S. war with Iraq, but what the audience and Americans citizens could do for their country's future. "We human beings killed 160 million other human beings in the 20th century," he fairly shouted, jabbing his finger at Danner as aggressively as he does at the camera in the film. "Is that what we want in this century? I don't think so!"

Preventive war — an oxymoron

Morris, who left most of the talking to McNamara and Danner, echoed that sentiment. Referring to McNamara's earliest memory — as a two-year-old watching San Francisco celebrate Armistice Day and the end of "the war to end all wars" — Morris said, "Ironic, yes, because the end of WW I ushered in a century of the worst carnage in human history … I am constantly reminded that war doesn't end war. I think there are several examples of this in the past," he added dryly. "The 'preventive war' itself is an oxymoron, and we're starting out the 21st century much as we did the century before. This to me does not augur well."

McNamara cut him off, addressing the audience fervently: "But, but, don't give up! I mean it! Don't give up! You individuals can do something about it!" He enumerated the ways: by pushing for the U.S. to develop a judicial system that governs the behavior of war (an easy way: participate in the rest of the world's International Criminal Tribunal system), by forcing Congress to debate publicly the nation's nuclear policy ("you'd be shocked if you knew what it was," he warned), and by raising not only the country's standard of living through national health care and better education, but the state of California's.
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McNamara could have educated Rumsfeld on the futility of slaughter.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 05:13 PM
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1. McNamara should have been led out in handcuffs
& proceeded to go on trial as a war criminal, & then hung, as an example to other politicians. Go to war based on lies, & you're gone.

How this guy has the guts to go out in public still amazes me.

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