Interesting NEW piece of the puzzle.

[QuettaKid]

from the Fark board.

""At the risk of starting a rememberance thread, at the time this happened I was working with radar control software in New Jersey. My most vivid memory was people from the test site coming running into the office and telling people they were forcibly removed by armed Navy guards, and describing how they thought there was a malfunction because all the air traffic was just disappearing from the whole east coast.""

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1963549

[mirandapriestly]

1. sounds like a pretty big revelation

I don't really understand what s(he) means, though. I mean, I understand that there was something wrong with the radar which looks suspicious as far as the 911 Norad plane radar sitch goes, but can you explain what the poster means exactly?

[JackRiddler]

2. this is fairly weird

but no specifics are mentioned. Who is this, where is this happening, for whom are they testing, where are the "disappearances" happening on whose radar, etc?

[mirandapriestly]

3. Mike Ruppert thinks that Cheney could override

the countries radar using Promis, I wonder if this could have something to do with that? not that we'll, ever know.

[hack89]

4. Really?

no mention of radars here:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/magic_carpet.html

[mirandapriestly]

5. I ain't making it up...

"I believe that Dick Cheney also had the ability using evolutions of the PROMIS software, to penetrate and override any other radar computer or communications system in the government"
Mike Ruppert, in "Summation: Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury," from Crossing The Rubicon, p.592

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml

[hack89]

12. Thanks - an interesting document ...

that raises a couple of issues:

1. this ability to control radars is purely hypothetical, isn't it? Is there any proof that the software was modified to do this?

2. I thought all the FAA radar and ATC sites are independent with radar processing done at each site - where does the author get the idea that they are all linked? Is there any proof of this?

3. I keep hearing about these false blips but it doesn't make a lot of sense. Why would the FAA endanger the safety tens of thousands of passengers? I could understand false blips in military C2 systems but not the FAA. What is the evidence that false blips were actually introduce into the FAA radar systems? Is this another myth that is accepted unquestioningly as the truth?

[Harald Ragnarsson]

6. Is there any question or info about 911 you won't attempt to debunk?

Oh, excuse me, clarify?

[hang a left]

7. That would be a resounding

NO!

[simonm]

8. You must be new here.

There are 2 more regular de-bunkers here. One usually stalks around while the other responds to everything.

[hack89]

11. No - I get paid by the post. nt

[file83]

9. That comment needs to be investigated.

[QuettaKid]

10. agreed.

join me on the Fark threads and we can try and contact the poster.

[QuettaKid]

13. has anyone gotten a response from this guy? nt.

.

[greenman2]

14. GPS ? ARINC

hack89 said...
2. I thought all the FAA radar and ATC sites are independent with radar processing done at each site - where does the author get the idea that they are all linked? Is there any proof of this?

from what i understand ARINC may have been able to control all the planes computers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARINC
http://www.arinc.com
http://911review.org/Wiki/ARINC.html


you can also google...
ARINC london subway
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ARINC%2Blondon%2Bsubway


here is a bit of audio from the day of (Sept 11) from Howard Stern's show.
saying that ATC may have crashed...
http://thewebfairy.com/911/video/brad/ATC_Crashed.mp3


personally , i think ARINC was "hijacked" by cheney and gang !


i have a bunch of info on GPS.
http://911review.org/Wiki/Gps.shtml

more on london here too...
http://911review.org/Wiki/GPStesting.shtml


On september, 10, 2001, the Departement of Transportation (DOT) released a rapport of the vulnerabilities of the GPS, due to interferences, the date is probably a hazard.

The rapport is very rich and some parts should be read with attention there

www.navcen.uscg.gov/gps/geninfo/FinalReport-v4.6.pdf (doesnt work)

www.navcen.uscg.gov/archive/2001/Oct/FinalReport-v4.6.pdf (i found it archived here)

"... a single device that could disrupt military and civil operations worldwide would be attractive to malicious governments and groups" (page 43 in your reader)
"An attack on elements of US space systems during a crisis or conflict should not be considered an improbable act ... National leaders must assure that the vulnerability of the United States is reduced and that the consequences of a surprise attack on US space assets are limited in their effect" (page 44 in your reader) bischar


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(this is the beginning of the article...)

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The New York Times
September 11, 2001
Report Cites Vulnerabilities of Global Navigation System
By MATTHEW L. WALD


WASHINGTON, Sept. 10 — The Global Positioning System — which airlines plan to use to land flights in zero visibility, railroads want for avoiding train collisions and ships use to navigate shoals — is vulnerable to interference and even "spoofing" by enemies, the Transportation Department said today.

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NOTICE ADVISORY TO NAVSTAR USERS (NANU) 2001117
CONDITION: GPS SATELLITE SVN15 (PRN15) WAS UNUSABLE ON JDAY 254
(11 SEP 2001) BEGINNING 1445 ZULU UNTIL JDAY 254 (11 SEP 2001)
ENDING 1557 ZULU.
REFERENCE NANU: 2001115
http://listserv.unb.ca/bin/wa?A2=ind0109&L=canspace&T=0&F=&S=&P=2349




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GPS test was scheduled to be done, then re-echeduled for sept 10-12
more "testing" along with the exercises....

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14-August-2001
GIAC News Flash: Digital Distortion Anomaly Test



The PRN 19 Anomaly tests scheduled for August 15-18 have been rescheduled to September 10-12.

I apologize for the short notice, and we are still working to improve the coordination process.

I'm accepting comments, complaints and criticisms.


I will send out the test plan and detailed schedule when they become available.


Frank Lorge, GPS Civil Test Director, 609-485-4588, [e-mail]



www.ngs.noaa.gov/FGCS/info/giacmem010607.htm

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Heritage Security Report Urges GPS Changes
The Heritage Foundation, an influential conservative "think tank" in Washington, D.C., has issued a report on homeland security that urges inclusion of GPS in the nation's critical infrastructure and recommends creation of a national program office to operate the system with the Department of Defense (DoD) as the lead agency.
The report, issued in January, stems from the work of a task force headed by two former officials in the Reagan administration, Edwin Meese III and L. Paul Bremer III. Established in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks, the task force included a series of working groups who set forth a set of priorities and associated "key steps" for actions to improve homeland security. Meese was attorney general under Reagan and Bremer chaired a National Commission on Terrorism and served as ambassador at large for counterterrorism.
gpsworld.com/gpsworld/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=21977

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:17:04 +0000
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Sender: Canadian Space Geodesy Forum [e-mail]
From: A B Kristinsson [e-mail]
Subject: GPS constellation turned off?
I have been told that due to security reasons or military activities that the
U.S. DoD has desided to take out of service GPS SV4 and SV11 for unspecified
period. Do any of you know if more satellites are being taken out or have
been taken out? I understand that this situation is already causing an
80 minutes RAIM gap in Europe. Where on the net should I look
for the most up to date announchements on this subject?
http://listserv.unb.ca/bin/wa?A2=ind0109&L=canspace&T=0&F=&S=&P=2592

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Spy v Spy jamming
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2000/Jun/Threat.htm

Spoofing countermeasures
http://www.homelandsecurity.org/bulletin/Dual%20Benefit/warner_gps_spoofing.html

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http://911review.org/Wiki/Gps.shtml

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Brad
http://911review.org