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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:20 PM
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Pentagon simulated plane crashing into it in 2000 (photos)
Contingency planning Pentagon MASCAL exercise simulates
scenarios in preparing for emergencies
Story and Photos by Dennis Ryan
MDW News Service
Click on image to view article's photos



(many more photos)

Exercise SimulationsWashington, D.C., Nov. 3, 2000 — The fire and smoke from the downed passenger aircraft billows from the Pentagon courtyard. Defense Protective Services Police seal the crash sight. Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid. An Arlington Fire Department chief dispatches his equipment to the affected areas.

Don Abbott, of Command Emergency Response Training, walks over to the Pentagon and extinguishes the flames. The Pentagon was a model and the "plane crash" was a simulated one.

The Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise, as the crash was called, was just one of several scenarios that emergency response teams were exposed to Oct. 24-26 in the Office of the Secretaries of Defense conference room.

On Oct. 24, there was a mock terrorist incident at the Pentagon Metro stop and a construction accident to name just some of the scenarios that were practiced to better prepare local agencies for real incidents.

http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Contingency_Planning.html
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:49 PM
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1. Where'd you think they got a lot of the photos?
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:29 PM
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2. Thanks for the link
Some things make ya wonder....
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:59 PM
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15. Wow.
Speechless...
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:37 PM
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3. Have you ever noticed something STRANGE about this picture?
Look at this for a minute, what do you see?



Notice the tall buildings in the foreground? Look how close those buildings are to the Pentagon.

Now look at the area around the Pentagon:
http://maps.google.com/?ll=38.870437,-77.055831&spn=0.018009,0.033946&t=k

There are NO buildings even remotely resembling the ones in that "crash" scenario picture around the Pentagon.

So where are those buildings supposed to be? New York maybe?

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 02:32 AM
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4. If so, ask yourself this:
this was in 2000....
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boastOne43 Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:35 AM
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5. look at how this was edited
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 05:39 AM by boastOne43


to make it less noticeable. it's the only pic on the article page.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:09 AM
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6. There are buildings of similar size across the freeway, pentagon city
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:53 AM
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7. How you considered
that you are looking at a model room; that there might be more than one model.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 10:37 AM
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8. That building on the far left in the foreground
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 10:48 AM by Mind_your_head
makes me think of the John Hancock Tower in Chicago (although it would be on a different scale than their pentagon model, I believe)



Also, the V-shaped building in the foreground on the right is an unusual design. I wonder if that is a 'specific building' somewhere. Does anyone recognize it? Although only being about 20 stories tall or so, it wouldn't be a prominently known building, still the shape is distinctive.

edit: to use Hancock building's correct name
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:37 PM
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11. The Crystal City Hyatt Regency is V shaped
You're cracking me up with the 'different scale' bit. The models in the disaster drill photos show about 10-15 stories, just like the buildings in the aerial photo posted in #6. Why not focus on the obvious condiLie that no one could have imagined that airplanes could be used in an attack (bojinka)?

The V shaped building is distinctive, and its located a little over a mile south of the pentagon:
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=11&Z=18&X=804&Y=10754&W=1&qs=%7carlington%7cva%7c


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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:34 PM
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12. Guess you're right about the V-shape building being the Hyatt
(glad you got a chuckle at my expense ;-) b/c I don't personally know Washington, I just look at maps)

What do you suppose that black building in the left foreground is?

When I wrote my post #8 I was thinking/suggesting perhaps 'they' were considering all kinds of scenarios in different cities/locations and just had all of these random building props around. I could very well be off base with that, but just thought I'd 'throw it out' there. Please everyone, just disregard it if you don't think it has any merit.

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As far as Why not focus on the obvious condiLie that no one could have imagined that airplanes could be used in an attack (bojinka)?

I guess b/c I already KNOW it's an obvious lie. I take that as a 'given' already.

Who/what is bojinka?

Peace,
M_Y_H


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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:18 PM
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14. Project Bojinka was an al Qaeda plot to crash hijacked
airliners into the Pentagon, the WTC, and Sears Tower.

Philippine Intelligence got the story out of Abdul Hakim Murad in 1995,
and then extradited him to the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oplan_Bojinka

Peter Lance writes about it in "1000 Years for Revenge"
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:10 AM
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9. Nice catch guys, I never saw that picture …
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 11:11 AM by Bushknew
in that way before.

Those are BIG city skyscrapers.

These are not…



They have been playing and planing the 911 war game for years.

I said in another thread that it is amazing what a small but well trained
group of people can do WITHOUT the government’s help, such as the recent bank heist in England.

Now imagine what a small but well trained group of people can do WITH the government’s help, you get 911.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:33 AM
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10. And they keep saying, It had never occurred to us that people would
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 11:35 AM by Sinti
use planes as bombs. If I was a cop, and I'm not, that particular untruth would be really damning for them.

Edited to add:
Hey look, the plane went through to the center and left wreckage in their sim... shows you why computer models are no substitute for real life I suppose.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:14 PM
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13. well, it was supposed to be an accidential crash
I agree they lie repeatetedly about "no one imagined.." not just for 9-11 but for damn near everything. It should be this groups motto. But, in this case the crash in the exercise was of a plane heading out of National that crashed by accident into the center of the building. I think it was a scenerio like the iced-up plane that went into the Potomac in 82, but I could be wrong, it might have been a plane crashing on approach.

At any rate this specific exercise dealt with an accidential crash...
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