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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 02:49 AM
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Bush on 9/11
In July 2001, at the G8 Summit in Genoa, Italy, US President George W. Bush was himself the suspected target of a terrorist plot to crash a hijacked commercial plane into a building. "Italian officials took the reports seriously enough to prompt extraordinary precautions during the July summit of the Group of 8 nations, including closing the airspace over Genoa and stationing anti-aircraft guns at the city's airport." (LA Times, 9/27/01, http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/latimes092701.html )

Given that Bush himself was a suspected target of a "hijacked plane bomb" terrorist attack in July 2001, how can the Bush administration possibly explain the fact that Bush kept reading The Pet Goat in a widely publicized, previously scheduled public appearance in Sarasota, FL (only 5 miles from the Sarasota International Airport and 40 miles from the Tampa International Airport) for at least 9 minutes and then remained at the school for a press conference more than 30 minutes AFTER it had become obvious to him and everyone else over 10 years old with access to breaking news that the US was dealing with a coordinated attack of suicidal terrorist hijackers? From 9/12/01 AP reports (for example, http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46692,00.html ): "In Florida, Bush was reading to children in a classroom at 9:05 a.m. when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered into his ear. The president briefly turned somber before he resumed reading. He addressed the tragedy about a half-hour later."

Didn't it cross anybody's mind in the entire Bush entourage that the grammar school might be the terrorists' next target and that they just might want to get Bush and ALL OF THE LITTLE KIDS he was reading with out of harm's way? If not, why not? Remember that just two months before, Bush himself had been one of the suspected targets of just such a terrorist plot. Is there no one in the entire Bush administration intelligence/Secret Service entourage with a three digit IQ?

The simplest explanation for this bizarre reaction to the very real potential of toddler mass murder is administration foreknowledge at the highest levels. Bravado doesn't make sense as an explanation because Bush would have been taking a bunch of little kids with him in any potential attack. Stunned inaction doesn't make much sense either because the primary mission of the entire Secret Service is to ensure the President's safety. There are only two obvious choices here: on 9/11 the Bush administration was either criminally incompetent or just plain criminal.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:07 AM
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1. of course they knew!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:13 AM
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2. The image of B*sh
just after Andrew Card has whispered in his ear and left him alone should be the 9/11 truth poster:

He's just sitting there chewing the inside of his cheek, trying to look inconspicous, and totally alone.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 08:31 PM
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4. I wonder why our debunking crew always seems to stay away from
these types of threads.

Hmmm ...
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 04:29 AM
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5. That look on his face was one of guilt and fear
creepy and unmistakable.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:18 PM
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6. I think Card said "77 and 93 are late. Stall half an hour."
Bush is sitting there thinking: "Stall? How? Is this a setup? Am I going to take
the fall for this?"
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:26 PM
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14. Holy crap, I think you're right.
I have always wondered (and joked, naturally :P) about what Card could have said. Your post is the only thing that makes sense.

I mean, if he would've said "Sir, another plane hit the other tower" which is what *they* want you to think, you have to wonder WHY he didn't get off his ass.

But being told to stall? That makes sense. He stalled.

He was a good little GOP criminal.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:34 PM
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10. just plain bad acting
...what an asshole
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:30 AM
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3. All you have to do is watch their actions
Everything they did speaks volumes about what they truly thought of the attacks.

And after the attacks they showed very little interest in investigations and had absolutely no use for the 911 Commission.

Just that alone should warrant a good independent investigation.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 03:34 PM
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7. More conspiracy theory BS - no evidence - here's what really happened
Our president first of all had promised these children that he would observe their lesson in order to encourage them to continue their schooling and to advance the noble goals of the No Child Left Behind Act. If our president had stopped reading "The Pet Goat," his actions might have startled or scared them, and scaring them is practically like terrorizing them, which would have been a form of terrorism, and we know that our president, this president, is determined to fight all terrorism.

Every promise a person makes is really a promise between three parties, the person promising, the person to whom the promise was made and God. So our president could not break his promise with those children and with God to finish reading "The Pet Goat."

Our president could not make any sudden moves, and also did not want the world to think that our president was panicking or afraid in the face of the acts of the evil doers.

I know from many hours of prayer and close communication with Jesus that our president did exactly the right thing by staying in the classroom and finishing the reading of "The Pet Goat."

While my post explains exactly why our president stayed in that classroom, your OP is really just a lot of conjecture, and we also know that your conspiracy theory would require a vast number of people to keep the secret of why our president stayed in the classroom reading "The Pet Goat," and that no one can keep a secret and therefore if no one has come forward, then there was no conspiracy.








:sarcasm:



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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 07:11 PM
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9. Thank goodness for the "SARCASM"
I didn't see it at first, and wondered what had happened to you.


:rofl:
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:39 AM
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11. NOT to read "The Pet Goat" helps terrorism
Dear HamdenRice,

I called Jesus just two minutes later than you and he told me it could be said more to the point: everybody who does NOT read "The pet Goat" is a terrorist. At least the effect on children is devastating if adults move fast or do not read "The pet goat", so it is against human rights.

We should enlarge Gitmo.

More see. http://www.medienanalyse-international.de/3seconds.html
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:58 AM
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12. You're either with the Pet Goat or you're with the terrrrrssts! nt
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:39 PM
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15. I was Republican-leaning and apolitical (but not Bushcist) when I
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 01:38 PM by petgoat
did my duty to check out opposing views and reluctantly went to see F911. Noting the
fact-checking was done by a respected law firm, I found the movie upsetting to my
equanimity. I started espousing Moore's ideas in chat rooms to test the
counterarguments.

Re: The Pet Goat, the freepers said:

1. He could have done nothing to protect the nation.

2. There was no use in having him run screaming from the room.

3. He needed to stay calm for the children.

Feeble arguments like that convinced me who was right. Since then I've discovered LIHOP,
media suppression, election fraud, HIHOP and MIHOP, PNAC. It's been an interesting two
years. I feel like I'd held my breath for the twenty years preceding it.


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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:57 PM
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17. Agree.
I thought Chimpy was just what we needed right after 9/11. Then, I learned about peak oil in early '04. Whether or not you think it's some globalist scam (I don't), it started to bring everything into focus. It led me into 9/11 Truth, PNAC and all the rest.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 04:11 PM
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8. There is NO explanation for their actions on 9/11...
other than this: THEY KNEW.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 09:30 AM
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13. incompetance?
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 09:36 AM by sabbat hunter
it couldnt have anything to do with the fact that * is plain incompetant and probably didnt know what to do, so he just sat there looking stupid could it?

maybe he was drunk or stoned and was in a state of quiet panic?

maybe he plain froze up and cracked under the pressure? (what i have to actually make a decision and be a president? i didnt get into this job for that)

edited for spelling error
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 12:48 PM
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16. * is plain incompetent
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 12:50 PM by petgoat
It's downright impossible to believe that a President can be informed the nation is under attack and
just sit there. Obviously you get up and find out what's going on. Rehearsing in your mind how you'll
react to certain contingencies is part of adult life. What do you do if your child starts to choke?
What do you do if your dad has a heart attack? What if there's an auto accident outside your house?

Suppose you're watching the football game on TV and your wife says, "Honey, the car is on fire."
Do you say, "Okay, I'll be there at half time"?

He doesn't have to make a decision until he knows what's going on. And what is so difficult about
making a decision to defend the nation? He doesn't have any trouble sending GIs and Nat'l Guardspeople
to get maimed and killed. He doesn't have any trouble killing Iraqi civilians.

That's why I think he has to be stalling. 77 is behind schedule, and if he leaves the room he'll be
expected to ask "Is there an air defense for Washington? Well why not?" 93 was even more behind
schedule, and possibly aimed at Congress.





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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:02 PM
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18. What about the secret service though?
I'm not sure what their standard operating procedure is, but doesn't it seem like they would want to whisk him outta there since the "terrorists" knew where he was, it was a publicized event?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 01:14 PM
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19. the secret service job
is to protect the president. if he is not in danger they would not grab him and wisk him away. it is beyond their duties.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:00 PM
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20. They supposedly did that to Cheney
If I remember correctly, he stated he was lifted by the armpits and rushed underground.

Bush's appearance at the school was printed in the local paper days in advance. He wasn't safe - there's no excuse for the Secret Service doing nothing when the attack was underway - unless they were under direct orders to do nothing.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:08 PM
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21. with cheney
supposedly, (and i repeat suppsosedly) they feared an attack on the white house.


the white house is something easy to pick out.
a school in a suburban area isnt. therefore he wasnt considered to be in danger.
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theobscure Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:30 PM
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22. good lord, that's insane
How could they be so sure that the terorrist attack was restricted to 767's hitting buildings?
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:38 PM
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23. "he wasnt considered to be in danger."
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 02:48 PM by petgoat
Then why did they install SAMs at the hotel he stayed at the night before at Longboat Key?

The school was five miles from the airport and it's VERY easy to pick out.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=sarasota+booker+school+emma&ll=27.369786,-82.530842&spn=0.067228,0.117073

The School is in Newton Estates Park, right near the RR tracks. If you look at the Google map you'll
see the Sarasota runways point right at it. You can't miss it. Besides, somebody could have placed a
radio beacon.

You guys make up your facts to protect your complacency, and then try to inflict that complacency
on the rest of us.


Furthermore there was a suspected assassination attempt that morning, with men showing up claiming to
be television reporters. And threats were reported to the police, who notified the SS.


Look at that map. It's downright creepy the way he sat in the crosshairs. It's suggested that one of
Osama's brothers was a hostage at the Carlyle Group board meeting with Poppy Bush that day. It looks
like W might have been a hostage too.
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lightbulb Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:43 PM
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24. Beware 20/20 hindsight
They supposedly had no idea how massive and coordinated the attack was, only that it was really major. The attackers could have had 10 planes and expert navigation skills for all anyone knew. The Secret Service doesn't make assumptions - if they hear a loud pop, they don't assume it was a firecracker, they dogpile on the pres.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:47 PM
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25. Exactly. FAA thought as many as 11 planes may have been
hijacked. What if every commercial jet in Cuba had been simultaneously hijacked? How could they
know the President was safe?
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