The mystery of the white Mitsubishi at Logan Airport

[Andre II]

thanks to John Doe II:

The following event is reported from the parking lot of Bostan Logan Airport on the morning of 911:

“In the half light just after dawn on Tuesday, September 11, a driver pulls into the car park of Boston's Logan International airport.
He's in a hurry and looking for a space. There aren't many and he argues with five Arab-looking men in another car then moves on.
It is an argument he will remember for the rest of his life.
The five men lock their car.”
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/newsoftheworld091601.html

“After the attacks, a motorist reported a confrontation with five Middle Eastern men in the car. (…) Inside, police found a ramp pass, allowing access to restricted airport areas. “
http://web.archive.org/web/20010922164519/www.miami.com/herald/special/news/worldtrade/digdocs/000518.htm

This story is well-known.
Only problem there are three big questions.

There can't have been five men in the car.
Often it is stated that Atta had rented the car. But this is impossible.
Sometimes it is stated that Al-Shehhi had rented the car. But this is impossible neither.

See:
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.2299

[Jose Diablo]

1. And then there is this

From the second article:

"Sept. 11, 5:53 a.m: With the sun rising on a gorgeous morning, Atta and another hijacker board a US Airways flight at the Portland Jetport. Still images from a video camera show the two men passing through the security area just moments before the flight was scheduled to leave for Boston.

Atta made his connection but his bag did not. Inside, investigators found a Saudi passport, a video on flying Boeing jets, airline uniforms and a suicide note, reportedly dated 1996. In it, Atta said he intended to kill himself and go to heaven as a martyr."

Help me out here, I thought Atta's passport was found in the debrie around the WTC.

[Andre II]

2. Mysterious passport

This is a very common misunderstanding due to some wrong media accounts (eg Guardian).
In fact this fire-proved super magi passport that was found BEFORE the towers collapsed belonged to Satam Al Suqami.

[Kevin Fenton]

3. Yes and no

Suqami's passport was handed in, but the article appears to be referring to Alomari's passport, which was allegedly in the bag.

btw, does this guy remind you of anybody:
http://images.google.com/images?q=Shukrijumah&sourceid=mozilla-search&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&percentage_served=100&sa=N&tab=wi

[savemefromdumbya]

4. LOL!

you are very warm!

[savemefromdumbya]

10. you were supposed to find the car with the passport and suicide note

[Andre II]

5. So who rented this car?

I mean we're talking about the car where the FBI found all the evidence.
Atta CAN'T have rented it. All these reports must be wrong or are yet another proof for the double.
Al-Shehhi CAN'T have rented it. All these reports must be wrong or are yet another proof for the double.
So who rented the car?
Someone must have rented it...!

[Andre II]

6. I mean this is THE car of 911

full with evidence of 911 being an al Qaeda operation and
one can easily prove that neither Atta nor Al-Shehhi can have rented the car.
But all media accounts do in fact claim this.
So, who on earth could have rented it??

[KJF]

7. Probably Waleed or Wail

I just wrote this:
Late August/Early September: Hijacker Rents Car in NE US
A white Mitsubishi is rented at some point and used by the hijackers. It is found after the attacks in the garage at Logan airport and it is presumed that some hijackers used it to get to the airport on 9/11 (see September 11-13, 2001). However, it is unclear by whom, when and where the Mitsubishi is rented. Initially, it is supposed to have been rented by lead hijacker Mohamed Atta in Springfield, Massachusetts, on the border with Connecticut, and Atta is allegedly seen driving it one day before the attacks (see September 10, 2001. It is also said to have travelled between Boston and Springfield in the week before the attacks and is claimed to be linked to an Al Qaeda cell operating out of Springfield and tied to the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000. http://www.channel4000.com/news/956258/detail.html> http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/investigation.terrorism/> Alternatively, it is said to have Virginia licence plates http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/disinfo/deceptions/abc_hunt.html> One hijacker, Ziad Jarrah, had a Virginia ID card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles listing his address as Springfield, Virginia, but the flight he is supposed to have hijacked departed from Newark, not Boston. http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/01/09/inv.hijacker.traffic.stops> Later, a spokeswoman for Alamo Rent a Car, from which Atta hires another car in Boston, says this one was also rented from their outlet at Logan Airport. http://seacoastonline.com/2001news/9_13_sb2.htm> The car is seen entering and exiting Logan airport several times between September 4 or 5 and 9/11 http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010924/wplot.html> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,552749,00.html> http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/maps/timeline.htm> However, Atta arrived in Boston on September 9 (see September 9, 2001), although he had been in the NE US previously during the summer, and the first hijackers to arrive in Boston in the run-up to the attacks are supposed to be the Alshehri brothers, who arrive on September 5 (see September 5, 2001).
Comment1: I guess one of the other hijackers rented it on September 5 or so, but the details beat me.
Comment2: What Al Qaeda cell tied to the Cole bombing in Springfield? How could a group in in western Massachusetts be tied to that?
Comment3: There is supposed to be a story about it visiting Logan on 10 September from 4:25 to 5:05 published by the Boston Herald on 23 September 2001. Is it findable with Lexis Nexis?

btw1, my computer exploded, hence the different user name.
btw2, my computer exploded, so I lost all my e-mail contacts.
btw3, the ashtray was allegedly full of fags - maybe this is where they got the DNA from.
btw4, How did they all get to Logan? Atta and Alomari got a connector flight, Banihammad and Mohand Alshehri took a different rental car, the two Alghamdis took a taxi, that leaves four in this car, but they were supposedly staying at different hotels (Park Inn and Milner if memory serves me right).
btw5, the Observer says, "At about 7.15 a white Mitsubishi saloon pulled up abruptly in the airport car park. It carried three young Arab men. In one window a 'ramp pass' allowing access to restricted areas at the airport was displayed. After a short altercation with another driver over the parking space in the airport garage the three moved off into the terminal and checked in."
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,552749,00.html
Assuming for a moment the Observer is right (a dangerous assumption, Alshehhi is supposed to have called Atta from inside the terminal at 6:52, so that would mean he wasn't in the car, right?

[Andre II]

8. Good work / that sucks

Good work. I agree with your entry and it points out clearly to a crucial question. Thanks for the strange Springfield connection.

That sucks your computer exploded. Hope you've saved as much of your documents on an external hard disk. Best thing is to do regular a "ghost" copy of your computer. Doing this on an external hard disk you can always manage to reinstall your computer from the external hard disk.

I only recall the ashtray from the Portland car (better said fags being on the ground next to the car).
And the FBI had DNA of all 19 alleged hijackers as far as I can see. They analysed all hotel car rooms, cars, even seats in the airport for DNA and fingerprints. Reports right after 911 reported that.

[KJF]

9. Most of it was backed up, but I lost my nice collection of...

Pentagon photos as well as my list of e-mail addresses, which means I can't e-mail anything to anybody before they e-mail me.

Ashtray:
"The rental car abandoned by the Florida-based team at Boston's Logan International Airport had an ashtray full of cigarette butts, presumably with saliva traces ideal for DNA testing."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/14/whunt114.xml

Also:
"investigators had
found in the Nissan Altima rental car that Atta and his cohort, Abdul
al-Omari, used to drive from Boston to Portland. Among the various
fabric samples and fingerprints was a Chips Ahoy package. The
crumpled chocolate chip cookie wrapper was found in the car's
ashtray."
http://www.blythe.org/nytransfer-subs/2001act/Chips_Ahoy!_Snack_Food_of_Terrorists!

However, all the DNA testing from this means is that the people in the cars got on to the planes.

[Andre II]

11. DNA

Thanks for the links.
You write:

"However, all the DNA testing from this means is that the people in the cars got on to the planes."

I don't get this.
Why does the DNA testing mean that the people were on the plane?
In case of UA 93 and AA 77 the FBI didn't provide any DNA samples to do matching.
In case of AA 11 and UA 175 only three out of ten samples matched and names have been withhold.

[KJF]

12. That's what I mean

Assuming it was done correctly (which we might or might not want to do), then the 3 DNA matches only prove that three people associated with the alleged hijackers were on the planes. As DNA was not taken from their families, it's not proof of their identities.

[Andre II]

13. Ok

But how do we know which 10 samples the FBI provided? Well, we have to believe them...
Given the fact that they withhold the names and given the fact that Shaler who matched the DNA concluded that the three must have been in the BACK of the plane doesn't really make me consider this as a proof of any sort.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x63156

[Woody Box]

14. According to CNN - Waleed Al-Shehri

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Just before boarding one of the planes that was flown into the World Trade Center, September 11 hijacker Waleed Alshehri left behind a poem.

Discovered by investigators in his rental car at Logan International Airport in Boston, Massachusetts, the poem speaks of traveling into the "face of death with our heads held high."

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/06/ar911.hijackers.final.days/index.html

Rental car at Logan - so this must be the Mitsubishi, I presume?

Funny that Waleed's poem emerged one year later - why was it not mentioned before by the FBI?

[KJF]

15. Good catch, thanks (n/t)