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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:32 PM
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Secret Service knew of a possible hijacking on the morning of 911
Secret Service knew of a possible hijacking on the morning of 911

http://www.freepressinternational.com/secret-service-possible-hijacking-911.html

And they did nothing to stop it! Why???
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 06:59 PM
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1. Huh?
Edited on Mon Mar-27-06 07:24 PM by LARED
There is nothing in that clip to indicate the Secret Service found out about the hijacking before they happened

edit to clarify
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:42 PM
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4. Um, I think the use of the word "possible" might indicate
that they had not yet occurred.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:48 PM
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5. Maybe it's just me, but I interpret
"possible" as something like an uncomfirmed hijacking. I.E there is information of a hijacking, but it have not been confirmed so it is "possible".
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:19 PM
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6. We all know how you see things..........
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:35 PM
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9. Cute, idiotic, but cute. (nt)
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:41 PM
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10. So when do you think they got wind of this, LARED?
Was it before everyone with a TV knew what was going on at 9:05 EDT or after?

Just wondering ...
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:03 PM
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11. Not enough information to tell
I would assume it was sometime after the FAA figured it out.

What do you think?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:37 PM
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12. And when did the FAA figure it out?
Because according to the 9/11 Commission, the FAA never told the military about anything helpful until after Flight 93 had crashed.

So I wonder what the Secret Service knew when. Because unless they didn't know what was going on until after the Pentagon strike, why in the hell did they let Bush hang around at a previously scheduled and well publicized photo op for over 30 minutes after EVERYONE with a TV knew what was going on just 5 miles from the Sarasota International Airport?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:47 PM
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27. What do you mean by
"told the military about anything helpful"

Two points. What do you mean by helpful, and are Military and Secret Service the same thing?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:12 PM
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2. video
the video acknowledges that the secret service got word of a potential hijacking but didnt say when the call came in. the agent that was interviewed said he got in at 7am got a call from the duty desk but no time of call given. would like to have seen what else that video said.

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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:26 PM
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8. You can watch the whole video........
on the National Geographic propaganda channel.

Better hurry though.

As soon as the shills here notice it.......that part of the video will be removed!

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 08:38 PM
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3.  I've never heard of this before...
He got in at 7AM and received intelligence about a suspected hijacking....It SOUNDS like they heard about it BEFORE the planes were "hijacked", doesn't it? Do you know of anything else on this?
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:24 PM
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7. All I know is this was from the
National Geographic propaganda network.

It was most likely true in the sense that this scenario was most likely fed to everyone with the agency that day.

This way when the neocons pulled it off, no one there was surprised.


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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 12:57 AM
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13. Was it SOP before 9/11 to carry a portable SAM battery missle
with Bush's security detail? I found that odd on the morning of 9/11. I guess someone, other than Condi imagined planes could be used as weapons.
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 01:52 PM
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14. Maybe it was Bush himself this threat referred to

There were some strange things occurring in Sarasota, Florida. Webster Tarpley describes it in detail in his book "9/11 Synthetic Terror", chapter "Angel is next".

I haven't got the book present at the moment, but will elaborate if it is demanded.

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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 03:56 PM
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15. The fact that the S.S. didn't remove Bush after 2nd hit
is PROOF that they were in on hit.

However, not everybody in Bush's entourage at Booker were in on it. This Marine obviously wasn't in on it since he knew the proper procedure was to move the President immediately from a public place if there is an attack...


"Suddenly, a Marine responsible for carrying Bush's phone marched up to Balkwill, who was standing in a nearby side room.
"Can you get me to a television?" the Marine asked while listening to someone talk to him in his ear piece. "We're not sure what's going on, but we need to see a television."
Three Secret Service agents, a SWAT member, the Marine and Balkwill turned on the television in a nearby front office as United Airlines Flight 175 out of Boston crashed into the south tower.
"We're out of here," the Marine told Balkwill. "Can you get everyone ready?" -Sarasota Herald-Tribune (9/10/02)



See: http://killtown.911review.org/bush.html#9:02

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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:50 PM
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17. how is that proof
how is the fact that they didnt rush bush out immediately proof of anything?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:02 PM
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18. It may not be proof, but it's compelling evidence.
In July 2001, at the G8 Summit in Genoa, Italy, US President George W. Bush was himself the suspected target of a terrorist plot to crash a hijacked commercial plane into a building. "Italian officials took the reports seriously enough to prompt extraordinary precautions during the July summit of the Group of 8 nations, including closing the airspace over Genoa and stationing anti-aircraft guns at the city's airport." (LA Times, 9/27/01, http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/latimes092701.html )

Given that Bush himself was a suspected target of a "hijacked plane bomb" terrorist attack in July 2001, how can the Bush administration possibly explain the fact that Bush kept reading The Pet Goat in a widely publicized, previously scheduled public appearance in Sarasota, FL (only 5 miles from the Sarasota International Airport and 40 miles from the Tampa International Airport) for at least 9 minutes and then remained at the school for a press conference more than 30 minutes AFTER it had become obvious to him and everyone else over 10 years old with access to breaking news that the US was dealing with a coordinated attack of suicidal terrorist hijackers? From 9/12/01 AP reports (for example, http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46692,00.html ): "In Florida, Bush was reading to children in a classroom at 9:05 a.m. when his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered into his ear. The president briefly turned somber before he resumed reading. He addressed the tragedy about a half-hour later."

Didn't it cross anybody's mind in the entire Bush entourage that the grammar school might be the terrorists' next target and that they just might want to get Bush and ALL OF THE LITTLE KIDS he was reading with out of harm's way? If not, why not? Remember that just two months before, Bush himself had been one of the suspected targets of just such a terrorist plot. Is there no one in the entire Bush administration intelligence/Secret Service entourage with a three digit IQ?

The simplest explanation for this bizarre reaction to the very real potential of toddler mass murder is administration foreknowledge at the highest levels. Bravado doesn't make sense as an explanation because Bush would have been taking a bunch of little kids with him in any potential attack. Stunned inaction doesn't make much sense either because the primary mission of the entire Secret Service is to ensure the President's safety. There are only two obvious choices here: on 9/11 the Bush administration was either criminally incompetent or just plain criminal.
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:09 PM
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20. And remember Bush was scheduled to give a speech at 9:30am
at that very room in that school and managed to do that even in the midst of a frickin terrorist attack!!!

Two things:

1. He hates canceling scheduled speeches, or

2. They were in on it!
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:05 PM
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19. Not only did they not rush Bush out immediately
they didn't rush Bush out at all! They let him stay in that school and take his sweet time leaving after his "very important" reading program and speech was done.

Remember, Bush was NEVER evacuated out of that school, NEVER! If he was evacuated, the S.S. wouldn't have let him make a speech from that school!!!

By the S.S. allowing Bush to stay in that school approx 30 min after the 2nd crash not only put the POTUS in danger, but everybody at that school in danger including the kids from a potential aerial attack (Sarasota Intl airport's right down the road) or a ground attack.


Only two conclusions can be made from this:

1. The top dogs in Bush's entourage were grossly negligent that they should have all been fired, or

2. They were in on it.


Which one sounds more logical to you?



PS - Anybody who still doesn't believe BushCo was behind 9/11 at this point is a traitor and a war criminal.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:32 PM
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21. gross negligence and incompetance
from the top on down this administration has been nothing but negligent and incompetant from the first day they entered the white house/
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 07:00 PM
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22. Can you name one person who has been fired
from all the "gross negligence and incompetence" on 9/11? If your "incompetence theory" holds any water, than surely somebody would have been fired.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:27 PM
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23. from the top down
from bush on down the entire administration is incompetant. how can anyone be fired if even the boss is incompetant. if any are fired it only exposes the rest for how incompetant they are.

that is the true cover up of 911, gross incompetance and negligence.
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 08:59 PM
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24. So that's a "no"
all that "gross incompetence and negligence" and no one fired. Hmmm.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 09:44 PM
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25. incompetance and neg
no of course there is no firing. (except for brownie) if they fired anyoen it would just expose bush for how incompetant he is too.

like i said the incompetance and negligence is from the top on down, and i meant it! from * all thru the regime. they are so incompetant they dont even see it.

whatever this administration has laid its hands on it has fucked up. from the war in iraq, to katrina, to not reading any signs about 911 despite the report saying, "OBL determined to attack within the US"

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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:05 PM
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26. When foxes invade the hen house and try to make it look
like someone else did it, the foxes look grossly negligent and incompetent in not have been able to prevent it and then with investigating it afterward.

Get my drift?
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:12 PM
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16. Interesting
But I have a question. Could they be referring to 7 AM two time zones to the west? For anyone who has seen the whole thing, is it clear from the context that they're talking about the East Coast time zone?
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